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Red Sea :

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Sea_FC

From this Cicero Stadium Asmara, Eritrea is Red Sea's stadium, capacity: 20,000

Os Balantas:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clube_de_Futebol_%22Os_Balantas%22

Stadium is Estadio de Mansoa, Mansoa, Capacity: 3000

US Masseda:

some fixtures and stuff about the team in case http://www.soccerway.com/teams/togo/us-masseda/

Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/US_Mass%C3%A9da

Stadium: unsure, but based in Masseville, Togo

Tornados De Humacao:

Official website, in case you speak the language they speak there, probably Spanish: http://www.tornadosdehumacao.com/

Stadium Wikipedia page: Nestor Morales Stadium: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nestor_Morales_Stadium

Royal Leopards

Wiki Stadium Page: Simunye Park: holds 30,000: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simunye_Park

Club wiki page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Leopards_F.C.

Positive Vibes:

Only info I can find about these is there is 4 teams including them in their division, they are based in St.Thomas, US Virgin Islands.

Police Union

Good chance this is it, as I searched it and this club came up, also from Egypt, possibly a name change, but not too sure: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ittihad_El-Shorta

Northern United

Only info I can find is they have 4 players in the national team, no wiki page. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saint_Lucia_national_football_team

Nchanga Rangers

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nchanga_Rangers_F.C.

Stadium Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nchanga_Stadium

Play in the second tier of Zambian football, relegated in 2008. Based in Chingola. Their stadium is called Nchanga Stadium, capacity is approx 20,000 people.

Money Express

Well, I searched a bit and on Wiki I searched their name and this team came up, also from The Cayman Islands, so it could well be this

Wiki(possibly): http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Western_Union_FC

I go to their stadium, which is The Annex, it holds 2,500 people, but when I search it comes as the Annex, as in a room in a house type of thing, but the capacity of this team is definately 2,500.

Mighty Blackpool

Interesting this, someone from Sierra Leone came to our house once, and I asked about this and he said yes they are quite a big club in Sierra Leone if I recall. He also said it was based in Freetown, the capital city.

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Blackpool

They're the most succesful club and play in the National Stadium of Sierra Leone, which is The National Stadium, which holds 45,000 people.

Stadium Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Stadium_(Sierra_Leone)

Maxaquene

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxaquene

If what it says here is right, Eusebio played for this club when it was known as a different name.

Stadium Wiki: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Est%C3%A1dio_do_Maxaquene

The stadium us called Estadio do Maxaguene, it is located in Maputo, Mozambique, and it holds 15,000 people.

Leopards Transfoot

Tried but couldn't find anything exept a former player for them.

Kagera Sugar

All I could find is a little amount of info on their Wikipedia page, they are based in Bukoba, Tanzania

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kagera_Sugar

After doing a bit more research, it appears that the club is named after a company in Tanzania called Kagera Sugar.

Inter Bom-Bom

I did find a wiki page on them, but not a lot else

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inter_Bom-Bom

They play somewhere on Sao Tome island.

Hoppers

I did find a bit on this team.

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hoppers_F.C.

It is based in Green Bay, Antuiga a Barbuda, their stadium is called Antigua recreation ground, the capacity is 18,000, located in St.Johns. It has a seating of 12,000.

Golden Dragons

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_Dragon_F.C.

They play in Magubaraka Football Field, but there is no Wiki Page for it. They play in the top division after being promoted recently.

Gendarmerie

I searched this to find a police force in Paris. Looked again, saw a reference but no page was found.

Eleven Men

I found out their name is now Eleven Men in Flight. It is based in Siteki, Swaziland. They play in Mhlume Stadium, in Siteki, Swaziland, it holds 10,000 people.

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleven_Men_in_Flight

Diamond Stars

Nothing to do with Diamond stars, btu this may interest some, in the same division there is a team called Kallon Fc, the chairman of the club is Mohamed Kallon, the biggest and greatest Sierre Leone player of all time. He used to play for Inter and Monaco, he is still only 30, he now plays for them as well, so he is player/owner(chairman). Interesting.

But anyway Diamond Stars, they are based in Kono, Sierre Leone.

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diamond_Stars

They play in Koidu Sports Stadium, Koidu Town. The Stadium holds 10,500 people.

Stadium Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Koidu_Sports_Stadium

Cosma Foot

They play in the top level their. Based in Saint-Laurent-du-Maroni.

They also have a player named Kenny Lenny, which I thought was quite funny.

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosma_Foot

Their stadium is Stade Rene Long, it holds 4,000 people, it does not have a wiki page.

Concorde

I could only find a bit of info on these:

Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ASAC_Concorde

They are based in Nouakchott, Mauritania, that's all it says about their stadium too. So just call the stadium something like Nouakchott Stadium or something.

Coin Nord

Only info I could find is that they've won the title the most times, and they are based in a place called Mitsamiouli.

Black Star

They don't have a wiki, all I found was they are based in Monrovia, Liberia and their full name is Monrovia Black Star.

Banjul Hawks

The only tiny bit of rubbish information I could find on this was that they are based in Banjul. A bit of interesting info for you, remember Cherno Samba? In the same division there is a team called The Cherno Samba academy.

African Lyon

No wiki page on this one either , all I could find was that they play in the top division, and are located in Dar es Salaam.

Note

I did search every team but unfortunately failed to find anything. And if it's possible I'd love a name to be dedicated to my forum name, I don't mind which team ;)

And finally, I hope it helped.

Wow, great work.

I remember Kallon and Samba, used to always sign Samba as a 16 year old back on CM0102 I think. Kallon usually turned into a world class player back then as well.

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US Léopards Transfoot are based in Toamasina, Madagascar. They played in the 2004 Confederation's Cup and won the 2003 Malagasy national Cup. There are mentions of them playing at the Stade d'Alarobia, but I suspect it's only because these were big events.

African Lyon FC plays at the Uhuru Stadium (shared by a few teams in its league actually). Info from the official website of the team (www.africanlyonfc.com). Cap: about 25,000 people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Stadium_(Tanzania)).

Monrovia Black Star FC plays at the Antonette Tubman Stadium in Monrovia (cap.: 10,000). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monrovia_Black_Star_Football_Club)

It's in the middle of the night here and I'm dead tired, so no further searching for tonight. Hope it helped a bit.

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US Léopards Transfoot are based in Toamasina, Madagascar. They played in the 2004 Confederation's Cup and won the 2003 Malagasy national Cup. There are mentions of them playing at the Stade d'Alarobia, but I suspect it's only because these were big events.

African Lyon FC plays at the Uhuru Stadium (shared by a few teams in its league actually). Info from the official website of the team (www.africanlyonfc.com). Cap: about 25,000 people (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Stadium_(Tanzania)).

Monrovia Black Star FC plays at the Antonette Tubman Stadium in Monrovia (cap.: 10,000). (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monrovia_Black_Star_Football_Club)

It's in the middle of the night here and I'm dead tired, so no further searching for tonight. Hope it helped a bit.

YZG

Very helpful, thanks.

Now back to the editor!

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Further info:

ASAC Concorde played this December 2nd the Mauritanian National Cup finals at the Stade Olympique de Nouakchott against FC Tevragh Zeina. No clue whether this olympic stadium is the normal home venue of the team.

Gendarmerie Nationale has had a football stadium built with the help of the French army on the grounds of the national formation center in Cheik Moussa on July 28th 2008. I have no further info on this, nor any proof it is the official stadium of the Gendarmerie's team, although it sounds logical (http://www.defense.gouv.fr/ema/forces_interarmees/forces_de_presence/djibouti/02_07_08_ffdj_inauguration_d_un_terrain_de_football).

Coin Nord de Mitsamiouli is based in Ngazidja, Comorros, and plays at the stade Said Mohamed Cheikh (http://www.alwatwan.net/index.php?home=actu.php&actu_id=1235).

About the Banjul Hawks FC, twice GFA League champions and twice GFA Cup winners, little info can be found on the stadium where they play (like for every gambian side). A facebook page (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=72130277518&topic=7531) mentions one of the GFA League's day 1 game between Bakau United and the Hawks was played at the Serrekunda East Mini Stadium. Not sure who was home and who was away, but other articles tend to show they play often there, maybe meaning its their home stadium (though there's only 5 official stadia for the league's 12 teams, including the national stadium who seems too big at 25,000 seats for regular season games, so you never know).

The Kagera Sugar FC play at the Kaitaba Stadium (http://www.goal.com/en/news/89/africa/2009/10/05/1542962/tanzanian-league-simba-continue-their-winning-spree-yanga).

Northern United plays in Gros Islet, St. Lucia. The home ground seems to simply be named Gros Islet Playing Field (http://stluciastar.com/content/archives/8679).

US Masséda (nicknamed the Lions) play in the Stade Masseda (http://togofootball.blogspot.com/).

Crazy how some of these infos are hard to find, even though it's all there on the net. I think you have them all, except the elusive Inter Bom-Bom about which there's just nothing to be found. They seem to be localised in Santana, on the Island of Sao Tomé, and take part in the Sao Tomé Championship, which makes their name silly as the island of Bom-Bom (Ilhéu Bombom) after which they get their name, is not close at all, being located north of Principe Island.

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This certainly looks like the stuff legends are made of! Kudos to Kenco! I wont hassle for a release date but cannot wait to try this!!

Thanks for the support. I haven't had much chance to edit this weekend, but tomorrow night I have a bit of time so will sort out the stadiums that YZG and Bluebirds4life have very kindly helped me with. Then after a bit of testing I will release something. I know I've said before that it won't be out until it's perfect, but I've decided that perfection is impossible, so I'll get something out for you lot to try out, then will fix anything that needs to be fixed later on.

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but I've decided that perfection is impossible, so I'll get something out for you lot to try out, then will fix anything that needs to be fixed later on.

Good to see you doing things the SI way ;) Seriously though, having quite a few of us testing out the superleague will find problems to be fixed much quicker.

Thanks for your hard work on this gents.

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will fix anything that needs to be fixed later on.
Good to see you doing things the SI way ;) Seriously though, having quite a few of us testing out the superleague will find problems to be fixed much quicker.

Thanks for your hard work on this gents.

defintly the SI way:p

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Nothing wrong with the SI way in my opinion, I think it's best to get some feedback and then patch up any problems.

i agree but for a year of "pollish" the games got too many bugs for me(not that it makes it unplayable) but it's still the best version yet.

btw i can't wait for you to release your project. any idea when it will be ready?

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I'm pretty sure all clubs now have stadiums, some as per the information from fellow forum members if the stadium was in the game, others I decided to just assign to a stadium within that country rather than create new ones.

Currently doing another intensive test run to iron out a few kinks, and to work out some realistic figures for TV/prize money, as I think my initial ones look too high in the lower leagues.

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Just a quick observation I have made while trying El Ricardo's league yesterday. I played with a Botswanan side and when I tried to scout for new talents, the team's board restricted me to scouting in Oceania, as it's where his World League is based. Not being able to scout one's own nation is not very good, so I thought I should let you know abour this potential problem. I don't know how much of a chance there is to find any worthy player elsewhere in the world than in the world superleague, but in case there is, the smaller clubs may find themselves having an even higher difficulty level in their attempt to rise to the top - they'd also need to rely on their sole capacity to train homegrown youths into quality players. There's of course a vast possibility to sign lower level foreigners, but it's always more fun when the local lads are the catalysts of glory ;)

Is it mandatory for all of a league system to be based in one nation in order to work correctly? Because with your league's design, maybe you could set the regional leagues to their correct regions rather than to that of the pyramid's headquarters, thus providing a workaround for the problem. At the more international levels of the pyramid it will stop working, but by the moment teams make it this far, they should have built a reputation and a budget enabling them to widen their scouting horizons.

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Just a quick observation I have made while trying El Ricardo's league yesterday. I played with a Botswanan side and when I tried to scout for new talents, the team's board restricted me to scouting in Oceania, as it's where his World League is based. Not being able to scout one's own nation is not very good, so I thought I should let you know abour this potential problem. I don't know how much of a chance there is to find any worthy player elsewhere in the world than in the world superleague, but in case there is, the smaller clubs may find themselves having an even higher difficulty level in their attempt to rise to the top - they'd also need to rely on their sole capacity to train homegrown youths into quality players. There's of course a vast possibility to sign lower level foreigners, but it's always more fun when the local lads are the catalysts of glory ;)

Is it mandatory for all of a league system to be based in one nation in order to work correctly? Because with your league's design, maybe you could set the regional leagues to their correct regions rather than to that of the pyramid's headquarters, thus providing a workaround for the problem. At the more international levels of the pyramid it will stop working, but by the moment teams make it this far, they should have built a reputation and a budget enabling them to widen their scouting horizons.

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Actually I've left all of my teams based in their original nations, so the scouting thing is realistic. I've been testing the game by managing Eleven Men in Flight from Swaziland, and they can only send scouts to Southern Africa (Namibia, Botswana, South Africa, etc).

There seem to be pros and cons to each way of doing it. One of the problems my way does throw up is that I cannot have reserve/youth leagues with my teams not based in the FIFA nation.

But on the whole I think I get a more realistic feel of this being a world league, although I hinted early on in the thread that I may release 2 versions; One where teams are based as per their original country and one where there are all based in FIFA.

So to answer your question, no it's not mandatory for all teams to be based in the same nation.

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There would be a way around this. In mine, most of the top nations are in the transfer preferences - doing this allows you to scout in these places. Also, with certain teams, scouts can be added with specialist knowledge of the nation they represent.

However - there may well be a way to have reserve leagues and have clubs 'retain' their individual nation status. Simply create a reserve and youth system within the football pyramid itself (no promotion/relegation etc.). It might take a long time to have all sides have a seperate reserve team to play in it, but it's doable.

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There would be a way around this. In mine, most of the top nations are in the transfer preferences - doing this allows you to scout in these places. Also, with certain teams, scouts can be added with specialist knowledge of the nation they represent.

However - there may well be a way to have reserve leagues and have clubs 'retain' their individual nation status. Simply create a reserve and youth system within the football pyramid itself (no promotion/relegation etc.). It might take a long time to have all sides have a seperate reserve team to play in it, but it's doable.

That's a good idea. I could set up Tier 9 with no promotion to tier 8, and throw all the reserves in there. I'll have a go, see if it works.

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Anyone know if downloading the new patch will affect my data editor files? I'd like to do this on the most up to date version, but am reluctant to download unless I'm sure my database won't get crippled.

it shouldn't but i would create a back up of your data editor files then download the patch.

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Well, for the problems when a team goes to the rong regional div, what seems to have sorted (somehow, the occasional odd move still happens, but not with such frequency) my db, is to give every team the regional divisions, in the "regional divisions" tab. Its time-consuming though.

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Anyone know if downloading the new patch will affect my data editor files? I'd like to do this on the most up to date version, but am reluctant to download unless I'm sure my database won't get crippled.

I've installed the latest patch. It seems that so long as you choose the default database when loading up your editor data/new game, you should be ok. The 10.0.0 database still uses changes from the 10.2 patch. If you choose the latest database, that's when havoc with the new IDs comes in to play.

Always back up just in case anyway. You can always re-install if things go wrong.

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Well, for the problems when a team goes to the rong regional div, what seems to have sorted (somehow, the occasional odd move still happens, but not with such frequency) my db, is to give every team the regional divisions, in the "regional divisions" tab. Its time-consuming though.

I've already done this for every team, all the way to the bottom level. Regional boundaries have also been set for each division, and every club has a stadium.

Yet still some teams go randomly to the wrong division for no apparent reason!

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I've already done this for every team, all the way to the bottom level. Regional boundaries have also been set for each division, and every club has a stadium.

Yet still some teams go randomly to the wrong division for no apparent reason!

Does every city have co-ordinates?

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I've adjusted the TV money down a bit in the lower leagues, as small teams were getting too much of a transfer budget which they couldn't spend due to their limited reputation/scouting permissions. It's still going to be a lot of money for the small clubs, allowing them to use it to improve their facilities and nobody should go bankrupt.

Just realised after giving reserve and under 18 teams to all the top 3 divisions clubs, that the Spanish ones already have B teams which weren't lost like all the other reserve teams, so now in some cases they have 4 or 5 teams. I'm going to have to go through and fix all these.

I've added the World FA Under 23 Cup, which is similar to the World FA Cup in that all 858 teams are involved in the second round, but every player on the pitch and bench must be under 23.

A quick reminder of all the cups and teams eligible to compete:

World Super Cup - Leagues 1-3 (60 teams). Teams are drawn in 12 groups of 5, playing each other twice with the top 32 progressing to two-legged knockout stage. This continues until the final, where it changes to a one-off match at the National Stadium. This is my version of the Champions League, with each team guaranteed a minimum of 8 matches, with finalists playing 17.

World FA Cup - all leagues (858 teams). The first round consists of League 7 and 8 teams, with all the rest entering at the second round. It is a one-off match with no replays, straight knockout all the way. Maximum of 10 games to win the trophy, with the final held at the National Stadium.

Intercontintal Cup - Leagues 4-6 (242 teams). Same style as WFA Cup, but just for the mid-range leagues. Sort of like the UEFA Cup replacement. I may change the format to add in a group stage.

European League Cup - Leagues 4-8 European divisions only (410 teams). Same style as WFA Cup, but just for the European Divisions.

Americas League Cup - Leagues 4-8 American divisions only (158 teams). Same as European, but just for the Americans.

OceAfrAsia League Cup - Leagues 4-8 Oceania, African and Asian divisions (230 teams). Ditto.

World Vase - Leagues 7 and 8 (556 teams). A knockout cup just for the minnows of World Football.

World FA Under 23 Cup - all divisions (858 teams) Same as WFA Cup, but all squad members must be under the age of 23.

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Please zip the file the next time you upload. XML files compress extremely well.

Okay, try this one.

Kenco's_World_League_Version_1

Some recommendations before starting a new game:

1. Only teams in the top 3 divisions currently have reserve/under 18 teams. If you wish to take control of a team in a lower division and want them to have a reserve team, you should edit this in before starting.

2. For database size, I would recommend selecting custom, then adding in players from various countries/continents, as just choosing large will miss out lots of reserve players and some lower teams have no players at all. It depends on your own PC performance of course, but it's worth experimenting with different options before getting into a game, only to be disappointed when lots of lower teams have no players.

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If you use Rapidshare, reducing the file to ~150 kB will help non-premium users, reducing both waiting time and avoiding a timeout after download (as there is no timeout for files < 1 MB).

I've done it again as a .zip file and it's 144 kB. Does that work okay?

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Do we start a new game with the default database rather than the 10.2 one?

I created it on the 10.1 editor and have only tested on 10.1 in game, as I have yet to download the latest patch. I imagine it should still work on 10.2, might be worth giving it a go and see what happens.

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I loaded it with the 10.2 patch and it works fine (though some ridiculous results, a load of european teams beating the Australian/Asian/American area clubs by scores like 5-0, 6-0, 7-0 etc with regularity (even a 10-0 win for Inter against 1 of the teams from the lesser leagues, and that's within the first 5 games of the season, so it doesn't seem to be that strong a league. It almost seems like it has some world class teams (Barcelona etc), some good teams (Bayern etc) and some..........well, some rubbish teams that look like they should be down an extra 2-3 leagues (Melbourne etc). Admittedly that's just based on the results of the first 5 games, but I can see quite a few of the teams conceding 100+ goals pretty easily.

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I loaded it with the 10.2 patch and it works fine (though some ridiculous results, a load of european teams beating the Australian/Asian/American area clubs by scores like 5-0, 6-0, 7-0 etc with regularity (even a 10-0 win for Inter against 1 of the teams from the lesser leagues, and that's within the first 5 games of the season, so it doesn't seem to be that strong a league. It almost seems like it has some world class teams (Barcelona etc), some good teams (Bayern etc) and some..........well, some rubbish teams that look like they should be down an extra 2-3 leagues (Melbourne etc). Admittedly that's just based on the results of the first 5 games, but I can see quite a few of the teams conceding 100+ goals pretty easily.

As explained early on, I have put a fair representation of each continent into every league, which means the likes of Melbourne Victory and Seongnam are in the top flight and generally get some heavy beatings. If I did it based solely on reputation then the top 3 levels would be almost completely European, with a sprinkling of South American/Mexican teams.

This way at least gives you a couple of games a season where you can rest your key players!

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