phd_angel Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Lost the Europa final after extra time and penalty shootouts. Advanced the game, it crashed. Reported the bug and restarted FM. Played the same Europa final and this time I won the match easily. Advanced the game, no problems. Is this a fair development? What would you have done? Edited December 2, 2023 by phd_angel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 6 minutes ago, phd_angel said: Lost the Europa final after extra time and penalty shootouts. Advanced the game, it crashed. Reported the bug and restarted FM. Played the same Europa final and his time I won the match easily. Advanced the game, no problems. Is this a fair development? What would you have done? If there was no intent on your part, you did nothing wrong, imo. See it as a controversial VAR decision going your way. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
enigmatic Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) I guess the question you'd have to ask yourself is, would you have reloaded if you won the first time and then didn't win after the crash? The AI wont be upset either way Edited December 2, 2023 by enigmatic 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prej Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 47 minutes ago, phd_angel said: Lost the Europa final after extra time and penalty shootouts. Advanced the game, it crashed. Reported the bug and restarted FM. Played the same Europa final and his time I won the match easily. Advanced the game, no problems. Is this a fair development? What would you have done? I had similar things happen to me, too. I just bit the bullet and reloaded until I had the same result. Having a favourable result after reloading just wasn't the same, even if it was because of a crash. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ngoc Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) It’s a single player game you should ask yourself what it should be ask other is like trying to find justification through others. make up your mind it is your game! don’t let other find excuse for you either way is fine but you know what is right for you. 100 people will have 100 different answer but asking feel like you are trying to fish for the right justification that set your heart at ease to keep the new score. (And most probably because you feel is wrong to begin with and inside you yourself think it’s wrong) Edited December 2, 2023 by Ngoc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrig Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 Clear dishonour! A ritual sacrifice must be made - I nominate whoever missed the penalty in the 'crash' timeline. The Training->Seppuku option is there for a reason. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pafnus Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 No, you lost the final. You can't say you are a champion. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
\'Appy \'Ammer Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 I think you should replay the game until you lost. That hollow replayed victory would just always feel tainted. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 The fact that you asked a community forum suggests that you are not happy with the outcome. As was said above, you had no input to the crash so you should just play on- there will be times later in the save when the game will go against you, so just mark it down as a bit of luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XaW Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 For me it depends. Would do the same the other way around? I'd say either let all instances of this being down to chance and let the replay decide, or let all instances lead to the original result. As long as you stick to one, no matter if you win or lose, then I think that's fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd_angel Posted December 2, 2023 Author Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 1 hour ago, XaW said: For me it depends. Would do the same the other way around? I'd say either let all instances of this being down to chance and let the replay decide, or let all instances lead to the original result. As long as you stick to one, no matter if you win or lose, then I think that's fair. Yes, that has been my solid policy for a while. If FM crashes and I need to play a match again, I accept whatever result comes up. Even if I lose in the rerun, I feel good about it because that's my policy. No forcing of the same result, no cheating. I wanted to hear from others in the forum... Edited December 2, 2023 by phd_angel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadecane Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 (edited) Take that title brother. You had no influence or knowledge of the crash. You did what had to be done. Congrats, Champion. i do like someones idea of having to “sacrifice” someone aka the guy who missed the pen in the first final! 🤣 sell him! he may write a tell-all book in 20 yrs about what really happened that final!! Id have him wacked! 🤣 Edited December 3, 2023 by Dadecane Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
forameuss Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 No, you're quite clearly going to the Hague for what you've done. Who cares? Play the game how you like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phd_angel Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 1 hour ago, forameuss said: No, you're quite clearly going to the Hague for what you've done. Who cares? Play the game how you like. I hear ya. No biggie indeed... It's just that spending hundreds of hours throughout the season culminating in a crazy loss and an FM crash is pretty anti-climatic... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cometdude Posted December 5, 2023 Share Posted December 5, 2023 You've not deliberately save scummed and no doubt there will be times where the opposite happens ( I won a penalty shootout 11-10 only to have the game crash and lose the "replay" 4-0). Congrats on your cup win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dadecane Posted December 6, 2023 Share Posted December 6, 2023 15 hours ago, Cometdude said: ( I won a penalty shootout 11-10 only to have the game crash and lose the "replay" 4-0 Yikes. That hurts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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