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13 minutes ago, Thebaker said:

That actually looks like  a great intake.

Don't take golden generation for granted, in my game i have had the terms 'this is a mediocre group or this is a poor group' every year for nearly 10 seasons. and this with facilities the same as yours (but in Hungary!). Worse they are right, they are poor.

I try not to make up my mind either way too early about a Youth Intake, because so many players have developed out of nowhere and made an impact on the 1st team. 

If I list the Senior squad by appearances this season then I get this, (although I appreciate that this ignores players that have been sold because they are so good). 

(43f) Ranked 6th-10th.
(39a) Ranked 1st.
(45f) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(43a) Ranked 1st.
(45g) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(48a) Ranked 1st.
(44a) Ranked 1st.
(44b) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(34b) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(40i) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(45d) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(38e) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(45b) Ranked 2nd - 5th.
 
(42g) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(38a) Ranked 1st.
(42e) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(47h) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(47a) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(47c) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(44d) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(43e) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 

(44i) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(33b) Ranked 2nd - 5th. 
(48f) Ranked 6th - 10th.
(41k) Ranked 11th-15th.

(43j) Richard Jenkins * was ranked 10th by PPA when he came through the intake and I loved him.
(41l) Mike Burns (F.Pro) * was ranked 9th by PPA when he came through the intake and we got £1M+ for him.

I really try and make no snap judgements at all on Day 1. If you don't get your hopes up, you can't be disappointed. :lol:

I really like the look of (49b) Big Niño (COL) (Unamb), (and the fact that he is Colombian), but time will tell of he's any good. 

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Mar 2049

Championship. We gave it a good go, but I think the Playoffs are out of reach now. We weren't bad this month. We just weren't good enough. We're 10 point adrift of the Playoffs, albeit with a game in hand. With 7 games to go it's too big a gap. 

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Cup games. We got the the Quarter Finals of the FA Cup in our 1st season in the Championship, so that augers well for future campaigns. Brighton are a good side, (finishing 8th, 8th, 8th 10th and 10th in the Premier League in the last 5 years).

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Player Development Advice Summary. Apr 2049

This is a page I largely ignore, but because I'm looking for feedback on the mentoring, I'm taking an interest now. 

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There is a lot of info in there, (too much for many I think), so let's break it down and try and focus on the individual sections.

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I tend to only use this section when it tells me that players are too old for the U18's. I don't care if the players are too old for the U23's and other than age, if they are in a certain squad then there is a reason for it, (and I often make players available for other squads which the AI won't know). 

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This is what I'm looking for at the moment. "Mentoring unit's general character had positive impact". Things are really gradual though and this doesn't mean he has "popped" from 1 personality to another. It just means that there has been progress. When I see a message like this I will check on the mentoring page and if he has popped I will change his nickname to include the new personality and think about changing those in the groups. 

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(48a) Doyle (F.Pro) was already (F.Pro) and is still (F.Pro). He not "popped" as I call it. He has just made progress towards the pop. 

In terms of "Squad's general character had positive impact" then if I click on (47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) *, (no relation to the other Doyle by the way unfortunately), then I can see that although his personality hasn't popped, his has had an increase in Det. 

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(48e) Bishop (L.Heart) is exactly the same. His Det value has been increased because the average Det value in the squad is higher. 

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I don't really look at this too much. All of the players are likely to be playing at a higher level than before, and any news here is fine. 

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I also don't care about this. 

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Current Ability is easy for me to track because when I am making my squad selection for every single game, I list the player by current ability. It's just habit and allows improving players to catch my eye. 

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Potential Ability is a little different because I'm not listing players by PA, so when it changes it's easy to miss. Some of these things you have to take with a pinch of salt however. 

(42g) Gillespie (SCO) (L.Det) is a "quality player" only in so much as it's a problem area for us and the best player in that position is 17 yo (48a) Doyle (F.Pro) and he's very much PA over CA at the moment. The fact that he could be much better than (38e) Hall (WAL) F.Pro 6'2" * is irrelevant because he's a centre-half being judged out of position in a small group of left backs. 

(48b) Agombar (Bal) is another 17 yo and I know he is going to be good, (he's 5.0 PA), and this confirms that although he is another who is PA over CA, he's already good enough because we are weak in this position. 

(45e) Mo Murray (IRL)(F.Amb) * is a key player apparently, but I don't see it. He's out on loan in the Conference and not exactly pulling up any trees. 

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The scout report says that he could play in the Championship though so maybe I need to consider bringing him back and squeezing him in somewhere. At the very least I need to look at it. This is important info that had so far passed me by. He was ranked 5th in the (45) intake and is going to be good enough to play in the Championship. Interesting.....

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This "High Potential Players" section is the bit right at the bottom and is often hidden on my screen so I have to scroll to see it, (which I don't do). I need to pay more attention I think 

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Ill-discipline record. Apr 2049

We received 2 red cards in our last game, (we won), and it has propelled us past the previous record.

There are still 4 games of the season remaining. :lol:

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How many leagues do you hold the record in now?

Has any team outdone your ill-discipline once you have moved up a level?

 

It would be great to see you have the record in every division, plus the FA Cup and possibly a European competition by the end of it all

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7 minutes ago, scousevasey said:

How many leagues do you hold the record in now?

Has any team outdone your ill-discipline once you have moved up a level?

It would be great to see you have the record in every division, plus the FA Cup and possibly a European competition by the end of it all

I actually wondered that but hadn't got around to checking. 

Everything below Conference North/South is non-playable now to try and speed up processing. 

Conference North. Nobody has got anywhere near our record of 139 yellows & 7 reds. 

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Conference National. Harrogate were close to our record in 2039 and then Brackley did well in 2046. 

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League 2. Nobody will ever beat our League 2 record of 168 yellows and 9 reds in 2042. 

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League 1

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Conference National. Harrogate were close to our record in 2039 and then Brackley did well in 2046. 

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I'm not sure how they work out the value of yellow and red cards for the totals, but that 2045-2046 Brackley season pushed you close, 15 yellows fewer, but 4 reds more.

Looking at the records across the years, while the North/South is more consistent for totals, I think National is the most likely to break yours, unless you try to earn your way back down the pyramid to reclaim the record - I doubt the board would be happy to see you drop that far though

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1 minute ago, scousevasey said:

I'm not sure how they work out the value of yellow and red cards for the totals, but that 2045-2046 Brackley season pushed you close, 15 yellows fewer, but 4 reds more.

Looking at the records across the years, while the North/South is more consistent for totals, I think National is the most likely to break yours, unless you try to earn your way back down the pyramid to reclaim the record - I doubt the board would be happy to see you drop that far though

The game classes 2 yellows as equal to 1 red. 

So yeah, while Brackley did really well with +4 reds, (equalling 8 yellows), they were -15 yellows so still 7 yellows short. That's really impressive from them. :applause:

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25 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

The game classes 2 yellows as equal to 1 red. 

So yeah, while Brackley did really well with +4 reds, (equalling 8 yellows), they were -15 yellows so still 7 yellows short. That's really impressive from them. :applause:

Thought it was something like that, but wasn't sure if it was a 2.5 or even 3 weighting.

 

This could develop to a future challenge, going from bottom to top while claiming the discipline record permanently in every league - so if you get your L1 score beaten when in the Prem you need to try and claim it back - but with one club.  So if you get fired you go back to the VNN/VNS again.

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U18's league. Apr 2049

This is our 1st season at this level. 

I'm not sure how we were crowned Champions, (as we finished 2nd), but maybe there were Playoffs or something. :idiot:

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Yeah, there is a Semi-Final and a FInal. West Brom and Barnsley were the other teams involved with us and Millwall so there must be a "North" league. 

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Apr 2049

Championship. A period covering the end of last month and the beginning of this month really cost us as we went 8 games without a win, losing 4 league games and also crashing out of the FA Cup.

We finished 9 points outside the Playoffs, but also a whopping 31 points clear of the relegation zone. It was a REALLY good season. 

To put things in perspective, the teams that came up with us last season, (QPR & Tranmere), (and remember we weren't Champions), we both relegated. 

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Potential Ability changes. May 2049

If we are going to say "don't trust the Day 1 PA ratings" when players come through the intake, (and that's exactly what I'm saying), then it stands to reason that you need to keep an eye out for info on this info changing, (to more accurate info). 

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This is a player who came through ranked 7th in 2048 with 3.0 PA. 

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A little over a year later and he's now showing as 4.5 PA.

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Now we could have sold good players during this time, (and we have), meaning the level against which all players are being judged has been reduced, but I honestly believe that the best player at the club right now, (45d) Ndlovu (ZIM) (F.Pro) *, is better than the best player who was at the club then, and so that doesn't quite ring true. If on the other hand we have lost our best defender during this period, so the level at which the defenders are being judged has dropped, then..... maybe. We haven't sold a centre=back during this period, but right back (43j) Richard Jenkins * did go for £10.5M in Jul 2048, but was he the best defender at the club back then? Maybe. 

Either way, (48g) Burgin (Bal) wasn't meant to have much potential and now he does. :thup:

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This might not mean that he will ever be good enough ton play for us regularly. What it does mean however is that we should expect to make money from his sale at the very least and we need to keep up his development.

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Season Summary. Apr 2049.

Championship

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FA Cup. We set new club records for progress in the FA Cup, before Brighton gave us a lesson at the Qtr Finals stage. 

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Carabao Cup. Who cares. 

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Premier League Cup (U23's). We did really well in our 1st season at this level, but unfortunately lost in the Playoffs. 

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This is the 2nd Tier at U23 level. 

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FA Youth Cup. Not a great campaign, but we are entering the competition at a later stage now and Boro have a good Academy set-up. If we played players in this competition rather than for the Seniors we would do better. Sooner or later I'm going to have to bite the bullet. 

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U18 Div2 South. Again, our 1st season at this level and we did well, finishing 2nd in the Group but winning the Playoffs.

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Due to playing against better opposition we haven't scored at freely in the U18's this season, but 3 of our players still made an impact on the top goal-scorers table. 

(48j) Sharpe (F.Pro) came off the bench in an FA Cup game for the Senior side this season. 

(48c) McCulloch (SCO) (Pro) started 2 Championship games, and 3 Cup games, even scoring his 1st Senior goal in the Carabao Cup. 

(47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * made 16(7) Senior appearances this season all competitions, scoring 8 goals. He always played in the "weakened" side so that's quite a remarkable record. 

I was going to show you more about these players, but actually I'm going to do a separate post about the strikers currently on the production line. 

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You might also notice that (HG47) Brendan Gillies is on this list, He was poached from us by Leicester and looks damn good for a right winger. I would love to be able to sign him back. Maybe we will look at getting him in on loan next season? 

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Goal-scoring keepers. I started off the season with (43f) Fabian (JAM) (Pro) * as my 1st choice GK and (47a) Best (F.Det) * just coming in for Cup games, but when he played well I opted to give (47a) Best (F.Det) * a chance with the rotated squad and he just went from strength to strength to such an extent that he's now showing at 0.5 CA better than (43f) Fabian (JAM) (Pro) * and will surely be 1st choice GK in the Championship next season as a teenager. Neither performed well at goal-scoring and I have often found this to be the case when they are rotated regularly. 

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Overall Best XI. In real life this would be far more subjective. I don't like how it's based just on match rating but appreciate that it's probably hard to code anything else. 

How is (39a) Harri (M.Pro) * only on the bench?

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Awards.

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Squad by Appearances

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Discipline. Yellow card count was decent, but the real area of improvement was fouls where we almost breached the 900 mark for the 1st time in a while. (We have never beaten 1k fouls). 

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I'm pretty sure that re-cards are being watered down by our good squad Pro levels. I know that a M.Pro captain for example has a huge impact on other players on the pitch, and I think that (39a) Harri (M.Pro) * is captain when he plays. This might be an experiment for another save where we purposefully stick an aggressive captain with High Det but low Pro as captain on the pitch as much as possible. If he gets injured I might have a play with that. 

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There was so much rotation this season that I'm not surprised that we have fewer players on this list than in previous seasons. 

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Now this is impressive stuff. Both our players on this list were awarded red cards on they only Championship appearance of the season. :applause:It's interesting that all the players on either the red card or yellow card list are wingers. Why aren't our full-backs getting carded more? 

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Finances.

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Income

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Expenditure

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Facilities. It should be mentioned here that our Youth recruitment has been stuck on Level 19 since 2046 and we probably need a pop in reputation to allow us to at least ask for the next level. 

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As well as our £6M Youth Academy costs, that's another almost £11M there meaning that we will spend somewhere in the region of £17M on Facilities next season. It's easy to see where the money goes to now even if our wage bill is just under £5M, (although £1.8M more than our gate receipts). 

Transfers. While I don't regret any of these deals, the player I miss most is right back (43j) Richard Jenkins *.

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Tracker.

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8 minutes ago, TheMadMonk said:

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The fans care ..... 😢😢

Do they really? 

The FA Cup? Absolutely. 

The Carabao Cup or League Cup or the Milk Cup or whatever you want to call it? Not so much. Give it a qualification place in the EURO League and maybe someone will care. 

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3 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Do they really? 

The FA Cup? Absolutely. 

The Carabao Cup or League Cup or the Milk Cup or whatever you want to call it? Not so much. Give it a qualification place in the EURO League and maybe someone will care. 

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The winners do qualify (although it the place doesn't pass onto the runners-up like I think it used to when they had UEFA Cup) ... As a lower league fan (very lower league) your spot on about the "Leasing Trophy" - its a joke of a competition. But I work with quite a few Forest & Derby fans and they'd love a run in the Carabao Cup. There's a lifetime Leicester City season ticket holder here, and he said that when Rogers fielded a weakened side in last seasons Semi-Final - and lost to Aston Villa - the fans where mutinous.😊 

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4 minutes ago, TheMadMonk said:

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The winners do qualify (although it the place doesn't pass onto the runners-up like I think it used to when they had UEFA Cup) ... As a lower league fan (very lower league) your spot on about the "Leasing Trophy" - its a joke of a competition. But I work with quite a few Forest & Derby fans and they'd love a run in the Carabao Cup. There's a lifetime Leicester City season ticket holder here, and he said that when Rogers fielded a weakened side in last seasons Semi-Final - and lost to Aston Villa - the fans where mutinous.😊 

I'm a Barnet fan so my opinions are very much "Lower league". I'm really surprised that the League Cup gives a European spot. (I'm astonished!) :eek:

That completely changes my opinion on it. It's a trophy that does have a real "prize" at the end but if only it dropped to the Runner Up when the winner was already qualified for Europe. 

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In fact, now you mention it, I remember Birmingham qualifying for Europe the same year they were relegated, (but my memory wrongly told me it was the FA Cup), and of course Swansea played in Europe on the back of winning it too.

I think what might have confused me was that Runners Up, (like Sunderland & Southampton), don't qualify, (although I have a sneaking suspicion that Man Utd only qualified for Europe on the back of this that season, (but not sure). 

In summary, I stand corrected. Thank you. :kriss: :applause:

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I'm a Barnet fan so my opinions are very much "Lower league". I'm really surprised that the League Cup gives a European spot. (I'm astonished!) :eek:

That completely changes my opinion on it. It's a trophy that does have a real "prize" at the end but if only it dropped to the Runner Up when the winner was already qualified for Europe. 

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In fact, now you mention it, I remember Birmingham qualifying for Europe the same year they were relegated, (but my memory wrongly told me it was the FA Cup), and of course Swansea played in Europe on the back of winning it too.

I think what might have confused me was that Runners Up, (like Sunderland & Southampton), don't qualify, (although I have a sneaking suspicion that Man Utd only qualified for Europe on the back of this that season, (but not sure). 

In summary, I stand corrected. Thank you. :kriss: :applause:

I think for fans of the sort of mid to lower prem/upper championship level, it's an attainable cup due to the big boys not taking it seriously until later stages so can cause some upsets earlier on. When Boro won, it was an amazing feeling going to Wembley.

Runners Up used to qualify also, think Millwall snuck in one year through that way

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Striker production line. May 2039

I think it's generally agreed that in football, the most valuable asset is the ability to put the ball in the back of the net. It doesn't matter of you are a good player or not. If you put the balkl in the back of the net on a regular basis, your value will soar. 

In that respect, FM is no different to real life, (although I hear rumours that "full-backs are the new strikers" in game). 

With that in mind, and because of the struggles we had earlier in the save, I have been keeping an eye on how our young strikers are developing "en masse". 

Firstly, it should be mentioned that we have sold a few strikers in in recent seasons. 

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With those players gone, it means that these are the strikers still at the club.

I ranked them 1st by PA and didn't like that. 
Then I ranked them by CA and I also didn't like that. 
Then I ranked them by age and I thought that was the answer. 
But in the end I have decided to rank them by name, so we can see when they came through the Academy and where they might sit within the hierarchy of the strikers at the club.

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(39a) Harri (M.Pro) * is obviously at the top and the club record goal-scorer has a M.Pro personality which is possibly more important than his ability to put the ball in the net at this stage. He has been phenomenally consistent and I wonder how much that is linked to his personality? 

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(41k) Jason Hewitt (Bal) * is a right winger rather than a striker. 

(43e) Mario (JAM) (L.Det) * was my 2nd choice right-hand striker last season. We have had a few (JAM) players come through recently and although it's a bit of a jump after spending the last 2 seasons on loan at Boston Utd, I think he stepped up really well and 14 goals in 13(19) appearances, (playing for the rotated squad remember), is brilliant. 

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(44b) Big Don (JAM)(Bal)6'5" * is a left winger. 

(44o) O'Hare (Unamb) is 22 now and just hasn't developed because he has never been good enough to play and for some reason has never been loaned out. He has been offered out, but nobody wanted him. I will be trying to sell him during the close-season and if I can't I will loan him out for next season anyway. I don't think he's rubbish, but I think I have failed him a little so he's never going to be good enough for us now. Only has 1 year left on his contract.

(45f) Tucker (Unamb) * is a player I really like. He played as 1st choice left hand striker last season and scored 8 goals in 27(2) appearances which isn't great, but I'm still really happy with him. 

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(46o) Seferi. (ALB) (Bal) isn't going to be good enough and is just going to be loaned out until he can be sold for a little fee with 50% on top. 

(47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * is currently ranked top striker by CA at the club and he wasn't even in contention at the start of the season. His progress was so rapid that he forced his way into contention as the left hand striker for the rotated side. 7 goals in 14(5) appearances is brilliant at his age. 

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(47e) Reed. (Unamb) is a right winger. 

(47l) Dennis. (Unamb) is a centre-mid. 

(47o) Rowland. (Bal) is a striker, but is rubbish and is about to be released at the end of his Youth contract. 

(48c) McCulloch (SCO) (Pro) looks like he could be amazing and if I can just get his personality to pop then that will be great. I'm not overly keen on the "looks for pass" PPM, but actually I'm starting to warm to it, (with good decision making). His is 12 at 17 years old and vision is 9. We will see if this can develop positively. 

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(48j) Sharpe (F.Pro) is a player who started to catch my eye with performances for the U18's after (47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * started to break into the senior side. He doesn't have the physical ability of some of those mentioned previously, but I like the look of him. 

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(48o) Fabisiak (POL) (F.Pro) is a right winger. 

(49a) Parsons (Unamb) is the 3rd 5.0 PA striker at the club. He's very raw at the moment, but that acceleration and dribbling ability could make him a terror if I can develop him. 

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(49b) Big Niño (COL) (Unamb) is the 4th 5.0 PA striker and I'm not really sure what yo make of him. He's less physical than some of the others, but he's also a better finisher than some. He also has the "looks for pass" PPM, but with decisions at 6 and vision at 7, I don't think it suits him nearly as much as much as (48c) McCulloch (SCO) (Pro) for example. I'm looking at him as a TM I think, but in my Ton Pentre this wasn't successful and I had far more success playing a TM as an AF and just tweaking his individual instructions a little and really exploiting his ability at set-pieces. That's ok to do when you have 1 player playing in the same role each week, but when it's a TM style player 1 week, but not in the next game, then it can prove problematic. The other problem is subs coming on and having different strengths, although this can be resolved with individual instructions. The hardest thing is set-piece instructions when your set-piece moves are all aimed at a 6'6" striker and he is replaced by (49a) Parsons (Unamb) who is 5'9", (45f) Tucker (Unamb) * who is 5'10", or (47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * who is 5'10" and are all "left-sided" players in my head. 

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(49d) Robles (PHI) (F.Pro) is another "lefty" who is short at 5'7". I really need to either have 2 big players on 1 side who can rotate, or I can't really exploit the size to the same degree. When you are playing matches yourself this is something that you can do manually, (and probably do without thinking simply by just having slight variations of the same set-piece tactic), but when you use the IR button this isn't available to you so you have to come up with other solutions. I can see myself developing (49b) Big Niño (COL) (Unamb), but then selling him on unless I can get a 2nd big player through future intakes. 

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(49m) Motaung (RSA) (Bal) is a bit of an unknown quantity. I don't really know what to make of him, but he's not great so......

What that means is that we effectively have this. 

1st choice(47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * left and (39a) Harri (M.Pro) * right. 
Rotated(48c) McCulloch (SCO) (Pro) left and (43e) Mario (JAM) (L.Det) * right. 
U23's(45f) Tucker (Unamb) * left and "someone else" on the right. (I don't want to send (45f) Tucker (Unamb) * out on loan in case of injury).#

Where it gets hard is the U18's.

U18's. We have 34 "lefties" in (48j) Sharpe (F.Pro)(49a) Parsons (Unamb)(49b) Big Niño (COL) (Unamb) and (49b) Big Niño (COL) (Unamb), but no "righties". 

I suppose the answer is that as the younger lads play and score in the Championship, we sell whoever there is interest in, (other than  (39a) Harri (M.Pro) *), and then the younger players just step up. Obviously I would prefer to sell a "lefty" than a "righty", but (47c) Doyle (IRL) (Bal) * is perhaps just "filling in" on the left and will become more of a "righty" for us. (He's right footed but not right only). 

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1 hour ago, OldManGravz said:

I think for fans of the sort of mid to lower prem/upper championship level, it's an attainable cup due to the big boys not taking it seriously until later stages so can cause some upsets earlier on. When Boro won, it was an amazing feeling going to Wembley.

Runners Up used to qualify also, think Millwall snuck in one year through that way

I think the Millwall thing was FA Cup wasn't it? (2003/04) But I take your point. You are still right. 

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5 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

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As well as our £6M Youth Academy costs, that's another almost £11M there meaning that we will spend somewhere in the region of £17M on Facilities next season. It's easy to see where the money goes to now even if our wage bill is just under £5M, (although £1.8M more than our gate receipts). 

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£17M on facilities plus £4.3M tax bill and it's easy to see how quickly the money can vanish. 

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5 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

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As well as our £6M Youth Academy costs, that's another almost £11M there meaning that we will spend somewhere in the region of £17M on Facilities next season. It's easy to see where the money goes to now even if our wage bill is just under £5M, (although £1.8M more than our gate receipts). 

 

19 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

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£17M on facilities plus £4.3M tax bill and it's easy to see how quickly the money can vanish. 

Easy come, easy go. Jun 2049

I think that brings us up to £23.1M even ignoring the normal costs like wages and day to day running costs. 

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Loan report. Jun 2049

Ranked by appearances. 

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Best average rating is (47f) McGinchey-Bird (F.Det) * who is a SS who was devastating in non league this season with 18 goals and 16 assists. He needs to step up and play at a higher level next season. 

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(45h) White (Fickle) has been in equally devastating form with 17 goals and 17 assists in Conference North as Walsall narrowly missed out on promotion. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

:lol: You know, I almost posted that, but I wasn't sure that anyone would get it. #BlastFromThePast

Weirdly, it's even truer now than it was back when Ian used to (rightly) bang on about it.

You won't get sacked for being crap in the cups unless you're also doing crap in the league.

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23 minutes ago, rosque said:

Still early in the season but this should be the year. No pressure :D

I also really want you to get promoted because that Derby logo...I cannot look at it.

I'm not sure that we are ready for a promotion challenge yet but we will see. We only finished 9 points off the Playoffs so that is a target for sure though. 

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Just now, jeaku14 said:

I've just had a flick through this thread - just wanted to say that this is incredible stuff @Jimbokav1971 :applause:. I'm gonna go have to go back to the start and make my way through it :D

Thanks very much. 

I do go off on a tangent at times and go from very little detail to loads of detail and back again, but hopefully that's something that you find enjoyable. :thup:

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