solounamigo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 (edited) Third season with Benfica This year Home tactic: 4132 (Beowulf 19.3.5) HOME_!!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf Away tactic: 4141 (Beowulf 19.3.5) AWAY_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf Both slightly tweaked: home: set MC to AP A away: set d-line and pressing line to standard and some other things I can't remember I think the 4141 could be my new favourite away tactic. With the 4132 at home your team's nearly unbeatable (sure it depends on the CA / PA as well) + coaches, training and so on. Thank you knap CL-final EDIT: Added both slightly tweaked tactics to this post. Hope it's okay knap, but there are asking so many ppl here and the pms are getting more.. Edited July 15, 2019 by solounamigo 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiz96 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 25 minutes ago, solounamigo said: Third season with Benfica This year Home tactic: 4132 (Beowulf 19.3.5) Away tactic: 4141 (Beowulf 19.3.5) HOME.fmf 45.19 kB · 2 downloads AWAY.fmf 45.07 kB · 2 downloads Both slightly tweaked: home: set MC to AP A away: set d-line and pressing line to standard I think the 4141 could be my new favourite away tactic. With the 4132 at home your team's nearly unbeatable (sure it depends on the CA / PA as well) + coaches, training and so on. Thank you knap CL-final EDIT: Added both slightly tweaked tactics to this post. Hope it's okay knap, but there are asking so many ppl here and the pms are getting more.. with strong rivals at home, you used the tactic "Home" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 vor 4 Minuten schrieb matiz96: with strong rivals at home, you used the tactic "Home" yeah, I used it all the time at home. in the cup finals (because they aren't at home) I used the away tactic You're idea with the AP - A is amazing Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Cooter said: Tactic Please? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted July 11, 2019 Share Posted July 11, 2019 @solounamigo where is the 4141 tactic can’t find it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 11, 2019 Author Share Posted July 11, 2019 The top tactics are considered to be P112 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top Sub and under) !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf 45.32 kB · 116 downloads P109 ALL CUPS SP (Top , Sub and Under) P109 !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMSPKnapP109ALLCUPS.fmf 45.14 kB · 85 downloads !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFPWMKnapP112ECFA.fmf 44.96 kB · 72 downloads Updated for 19.3.5 P110 !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF442PFPWMKnapP110ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 134 downloads P108 no loss 4411 (top) !!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF4411KnapP108ALLCUPSnoloss.fmf 45.25 kB · 46 downloads P106 ALL CUPS 442 (top and Sub) !!!!!FM19.3.4BEOWULF442KnapP106ALLCUPS.fmf 45.23 kB · 41 downloads P103 ECCC 442 (Good for underdogs_ !!!!!19.3.4BEOWULF442WAFKnapP103ECCC.fmf 44.96 kB · 43 downloads Updated for 19.3.5 (P103) P106 ALL CUPS KINGSTONIAN P109 !!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF9P103)KnapP106ALLCUPSKINGP109.fmf45.01 kB · 102 downloads WULF 4141 !!!!!!!19.3.5BEOWULF442WAF(P103)SPKnap4141P106ECCC.fmf45.24 kB · 92 downloads PILGRIMAGE 4141 (Good for underdogs) The 4141 is P102EC but there are updated versions of this the latest being P109 Other tactics 4132 !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFWMIWBSPKnapTHP105FACCSPP108.fmf45.31 kB · 144 downloads 41221 Oxford !!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB41221OXFORDP107ECFA.fmf45.25 kB · 98 downloads 4411 !!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap4411P106ECFA.fmf45.21 kB · 78 downloads 41311 !!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnap41311P106ALLCUPS.fmf45.2 kB · 80 downloads 451 !!!!!!!!!!!19.3.5PILGRIMAGEKnapIWB451P104.fmf45.19 kB · 93 downloads 442 DM SICILIAN P106 ALL CUPS NO LOSS (Top, Sub and Under) !!!!!!!!!19.3.5SICILIAN442PFDMIWBS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vspec1 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 On 06/07/2019 at 17:57, abbespl said: it's my first season in Ligue 1 after straight promotion in previous season. i think results speaks for themselves, there is nothing to add in words. simply best available tactic on the market :). great job master Knap, as always. Hey! did your u19s have no real players in the first season? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) AP Version Matiz AP Tweak !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102ALLCUPS.fmf Edited July 12, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiz96 Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 7 minutes ago, knap said: AP Version Matiz AP Tweak !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102ALLCUPS.fmf 45.38 kB · 0 downloads besides, did you make any changes or just change roles? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Just changed role Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 5 hours ago, knap said: Just changed role Ok so I need to use just this 1 tactic? It won't be found out after 3rd season? Currently I am using this as home and another one as away tactics and its so stupid to change home and away because my away tactics all it gets are draws. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 15 minutes ago, knap said: Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. MR L test? I am speaking about the 4132 matiz tweak Is there marked deterioration? Edited July 12, 2019 by deviangel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, knap said: Not sure if tactics get found out. The MR L test is 180 games so equivalent to about 4 seasons, so there should be a marked deterioration of results towards end of test. I went back to the full version of FM after finding out there was a skin that allowed Instant Result. I never change tactics if I'm winning. Been using !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFWMKnapP108ALLCUPS.fmf exclusively. First season in the new save with Inter, we won Scudetto, CL, & Coppa Italia. Got hired by Arsenal the next year. We won PL & CL 1st year, won PL, CL, & FA cup the next year. Won PL, FA Cup, but lost a gut wrenching 1-2 CL Final to Man U. 4+ seasons without changing tactics using Instant Result (No Match Plan) and still haven't gotten found out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 14 minutes ago, Heywood JaBlowme said: I went back to the full version of FM after finding out there was a skin that allowed Instant Result. I never change tactics if I'm winning. Been using !!!!!!!19.3.4WULF442PFWMKnapP108ALLCUPS.fmf exclusively. First season in the new save with Inter, we won Scudetto, CL, & Coppa Italia. Got hired by Arsenal the next year. We won PL & CL 1st year, won PL, CL, & FA cup the next year. Won PL, FA Cup, but lost a gut wrenching 1-2 CL Final to Man U. 4+ seasons without changing tactics using Instant Result (No Match Plan) and still haven't gotten found out. What is MR L test? Is it about the 4132 tactics? And did you use yours on the home and away matches? How do you use instant result on full version? O.o Edited July 12, 2019 by deviangel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 On previous page solounamigo finished 8 seasons. The only time I change tactics is to use a SUS, but I often don't even bother using a SUS tactic Instant result skin. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 (edited) 19 minutes ago, knap said: On previous page solounamigo finished 8 seasons. The only time I change tactics is to use a SUS, but I often don't even bother using a SUS tactic Instant result skin. He changed 4132 and 4141 for away. I get. Many draws with the 4141 but I am currently at young Parma side with 90% wonderkids. Do I keep the positive mentality or just keep the attacking? What's a SUS? Suspension? And what do you mean when you write - Top, Sub, Under in your tactics. I am sorry I haven't played FM since 14 Edited July 12, 2019 by deviangel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted July 12, 2019 Share Posted July 12, 2019 FM Scout Wannchup instant result skin for full version: https://www.fmscout.com/a-wannachup-fm19-instant-result-skin.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 12, 2019 Author Share Posted July 12, 2019 I just use attacking - you can use very attacking or positive but the optimum is attacking. SUS - Shut up Shop Top Clubs Lpool MU etc Sub Top Spurs Everton Under Dogs Crystal Palace Previous page for 8th season - Benfica is new. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 Do the AI work out tactics? Holiday test Using AI Squad building Holiday tactic used - AP has short passing !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBAPSPKnapHOLIDAY.fmf 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) This looks good, I can say that in all that years of FM there never was a tactic which got "caught" by the AI. There are just sometimes several factors as bad form, no luck and so on. I added that passing on short now as my home tactic, keita was on fire as I can see Edited July 13, 2019 by solounamigo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 2 hours ago, knap said: Do the AI work out tactics? Holiday test Using AI Squad building Holiday tactic used - AP has short passing !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBAPSPKnapHOLIDAY.fmf 45.25 kB · 22 downloads Why do you have salah A’s right fwd when he has strong left and vice versa for firminho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 vor 33 Minuten schrieb Scruffer23: Why do you have salah A’s right fwd when he has strong left and vice versa for firminho I think the assistant manager did it like that ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) My Parma 3rd season, using the 4-1-3-2 with Matiz tweap AP - Att. For away I use the same with Positive mentality but I still lose from teams in 18th place. any advice? Edited July 13, 2019 by deviangel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) Am 13.7.2019 um 18:37 schrieb deviangel: My Parma 3rd season, using the 4-1-3-2 with Matiz tweap AP - Att. For away I use the same with Positive mentality but I still lose from teams in 18th place. any advice. AWAY_!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4141SPKnapP106ECCCKINGP107_SOLOUNAMIGO.fmf Try this one way it's knap's 4141 with some tweaks. Playing my fourth season with Benfica right now and this really helped me in away matches. My PA of my team is actually ~145 and I'm rocking it Edited July 15, 2019 by solounamigo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, solounamigo said: AWAYv2.fmf 45.07 kB · 1 download Try this one way it's knap's 4141 with some tweaks. Playing my fourth season with Benfica right now and this really helped me in away matches. My PA of my team is actually ~145 and I'm rocking it Thank you, I know my Parma isn't the strongest but I just lost 5-1 from Juventus... I used to make tactics back in the days on fm14 etc but wow FM has changed, I'm lost.... Maybe the instant result affects the tactics somehow? Edited July 13, 2019 by deviangel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 Try the away tweak if you want to, but remember that the tactic needs to be trained well until it's fluid. Another thing is that the instant result isn't the best way. I'm always watching my matches in highlighted mode on th fastest option. Most of the tactics are working better in that way. There are many other improtant things to be known like great staff, training, morale and fitness of your squad.. don't have time actually so I can not explain it like it should be explained, but maybe knap can help out there Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 14 minutes ago, solounamigo said: Try the away tweak if you want to, but remember that the tactic needs to be trained well until it's fluid. Another thing is that the instant result isn't the best way. I'm always watching my matches in highlighted mode on th fastest option. Most of the tactics are working better in that way. There are many other improtant things to be known like great staff, training, morale and fitness of your squad.. don't have time actually so I can not explain it like it should be explained, but maybe knap can help out there The thing was the instant result. I started using the AP-Att with Positive as away tactics and watching matches I won the last 10 matches and the final in the Eu CUP. Let's see the next season is the key it'll be fourth Thank you Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
matiz96 Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 41 minutes ago, deviangel said: The thing was the instant result. I started using the AP-Att with Positive as away tactics and watching matches I won the last 10 matches and the final in the Eu CUP. Let's see the next season is the key it'll be fourth Thank you Have you changed the mentality Positive in the tactics of Away v2? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deviangel Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 24 minutes ago, matiz96 said: Have you changed the mentality Positive in the tactics of Away v2? Nope Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 13, 2019 Share Posted July 13, 2019 No he didn't. I think he's played only with the 4132 so far and not the Awayv2 yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 Few pages back but this is the Flat 442 P109 with Parma. I have found the flat 442s marginally better in LL, 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 13, 2019 Author Share Posted July 13, 2019 You should be able to influence result more than when using Instant Result but instant result can be used with these tactics. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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kelvin0131 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 9 hours ago, knap said: Few pages back but this is the Flat 442 P109 with Parma. I have found the flat 442s marginally better in LL, which tactic ??? could you post ?? thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrincha Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 AI solved throw-in routine. Is there a way to fix it ? Thanks @knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 I would have to see what is happening. Can you send me your game. P109 is in list above. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 @knap do you select set piece takers or leave it as random Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) In the list it is random. However the throw ins and corners the takers are shown in routine and are the WBs DR is taker Edited July 14, 2019 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scruffer23 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 15 minutes ago, knap said: In the list it is random. However the throw ins and corners the takers are shown in routine and are the WBs DR is taker So I should select the full backs as takers ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Is it a difference if I set them or just let them empty? I never set the corner or throw-in takers in your tactics so far. I'm asking because, for example for TFF's tactics it's always an important part to set them correctly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 I leave the list of takers empty, and never tried to test specifying because it would depend on each team. With Spurs Eriksen often takes corners which means no short corner, or a stay back WB will take corner which leaves no player staying back. All this depends on the 11 on pitch. If this becomes a problem then it is worth tweaking the set up 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garrincha Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 1 hour ago, knap said: I would have to see what is happening. Can you send me your game. P109 is in list above. First season it was working perfect, but now one defender always stays in correct position to break trow-in exploit... I'll try to record a video... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Finished fourth season with Benfica Dominated it again this year. The CL-final was a little bit harder, because I substituted 3 players at halftime and then at the beginning of the second half, one injured directly. So I had to play with one man down until the extra time CL-final Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Did you notice any problems with throws? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solounamigo Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 vor 7 Minuten schrieb knap: Did you notice any problems with throws? No, it's all fine here for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted July 14, 2019 Author Share Posted July 14, 2019 Maybe due to the AI specific man marking. Can happen with short corners and I would say defender is closer than 10 yds and is specific man marking. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pit 83 Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 Hello Knap i need some advice i started a new save with liverpool i decided to not make any transfers for the firts year my tactics are primary the new beast 4132 wulf foe home away is 4141 beowulf and my third tac wulf442wm.....if you have liverpool with no transfers the 11 for at least my first tac 4132???? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djels Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 (edited) 15 hours ago, MAECK said: What tac was this? Also @knap is the 4132 with just the ap attk tweek best? Attacking mentality one Edited July 14, 2019 by Djels Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAECK Posted July 14, 2019 Share Posted July 14, 2019 !!!!!!!!!19.3.5WULF4132PFDMIWBSPKnapP112ALLCUPSNOLOSSmatizAPTHP102ALLCUPS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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