MBarbaric Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 join the Iron Curtain group on tifo project Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 is there a way of changing newgen names of the ddr to more german ones. i think if you edited gibraltar there will be gibraltan names ... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 1, 2016 Author Share Posted March 1, 2016 is there a way of changing newgen names of the ddr to more german ones. i think if you edited gibraltar there will be gibraltan names ... indeed, i have no idea how to get around that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kundera Posted March 1, 2016 Share Posted March 1, 2016 indeed, i have no idea how to get around that. It's quite easy: just activate East Germany and rebuild the competitions again. If you want I can upload the file that I use in my save. I did what I said and I get german names instead of spanish-english names. I just get a bug in which I cannot choose which leagues from EG I want in my file, so I get the whole system. ---- Is it normal that even if I load the Nation and players from, etc, I get teams with not enough people in East Germany? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 4, 2016 Author Share Posted March 4, 2016 It's quite easy: just activate East Germany and rebuild the competitions again. If you want I can upload the file that I use in my save. I did what I said and I get german names instead of spanish-english names. I just get a bug in which I cannot choose which leagues from EG I want in my file, so I get the whole system. yeh, it is an easy fix but it brings other issues with the database. however, i'll think about the next version with east germany made from er... east germany regarding names, i don't know how ti is in beginning but i've just checked my 2030 save and about 1/3 has either anglicized name or surname. don't know if that is an improvement upon the first season. best solution would be to figure out how these names are created in first place. there is rather similar problem with languages i'd need more understanding on how hey are connected with regions and under the hood stuff in the game. if anyone knows any usefull topics on forum, please PM me. oh, and don't to forget to use original database (16.0.1) not the one with transfer window update. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 10, 2016 Share Posted March 10, 2016 yeh, it is an easy fix but it brings other issues with the database. however, i'll think about the next version with east germany made from er... east germany What other issues arise if you do that change? If I do it myself, what do I need to look out for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 10, 2016 Author Share Posted March 10, 2016 well, to be honest i don't remember anymore. it might not be anything special and worth a try.just be sure to change all the competitions so they don't pick up gibraltar teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 It works very well, but unfortunately the same changes need to be made in every single file because they're all repeated for some reason. The end result however is much better - all generated and grey staff and players have German names. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 if you know how to do it you can save ton of time by using notepad++ and copy pasting the database you did into other files so you don't need to use editor and risk making some mistake. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 So the data is the same in all of the files starting with "Iron Curtain"? That would be fairly simple then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 11, 2016 Author Share Posted March 11, 2016 yes, database has to be the same to avoid the clashing between files.different files had to be used to enable playing all those competitions together. hence international, european cups and a one file for each country totaling six. if you copy paste the data part into each of those you are good to go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted March 11, 2016 Share Posted March 11, 2016 @ The Amazing Dale Watkins can you upload ypur file when its finished? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ilgreb Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 One final question from me Why does this happen? And is there any way to get rid of it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 it happens because the game loads info from all files you load with it. so if you load 6 files it will load six times this info. maybe the workaround could be to have that info in only one file and all others blank. however, not sure what would game than actually load... those blanks or those with info. sort of grey area but maybe worth trying. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well, what you could do is have one file with all the DB changes, and have only the competition structure in the others. When starting a game the DB file would have to be loaded with any of the competition files. That way you have no duplication. The only problem is going to be the actual editing, which is harder without the db changes present, but you can always maintain two sets and just strip the db changes right before release. Also, I found another problem: some lower division GDR teams are participating in the West-German Cup. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted March 12, 2016 Share Posted March 12, 2016 maby some sort of "merging" these 6 files into one file Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 12, 2016 Author Share Posted March 12, 2016 Well, what you could do is have one file with all the DB changes, and have only the competition structure in the others. When starting a game the DB file would have to be loaded with any of the competition files. That way you have no duplication. The only problem is going to be the actual editing, which is harder without the db changes present, but you can always maintain two sets and just strip the db changes right before release.Also, I found another problem: some lower division GDR teams are participating in the West-German Cup. i'm not sure how could you have file with only competitions and no database as competitions pick the data (i.e. league ID's) from database (that is why they are together). however, first database for fm13 or 14 was merged all in one file. however, you'd need to ask krljenuska about it as he did the merging and i am not sure if he is still around the forums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 Managed to do the merging and also fixed the W. German Cup. I'm gonna keep the other files with 3-Foreigner rule separate, but will have to modify Belgium because for some reason that one has the DB changes while all the others don't. I'm doing a long holiday test before sending you the files. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 Managed to do the merging and also fixed the W. German Cup. I'm gonna keep the other files with 3-Foreigner rule separate, but will have to modify Belgium because for some reason that one has the DB changes while all the others don't. I'm doing a long holiday test before sending you the files. you should ignore the belgium file with db (i made it as somehow the game just refused to load belgium normally, but then i resolved it and put it with rest 3fgn files), there should be ordinary one like for all otehrs in the IC folder. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 There is only one Belgium 3FGN file, and that has all the db changes. Is there a newer version of this project than the one linked in the first post? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 There is only one Belgium 3FGN file, and that has all the db changes. Is there a newer version of this project than the one linked in the first post? no there isn´t Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 There is only one Belgium 3FGN file, and that has all the db changes. Is there a newer version of this project than the one linked in the first post? in 3fgn folder there is 3fgnbel file which is without db changes, well with one change that i have no idea what it might have been. the number of changes is seen once you go to start new league. i've remembered why it couldn't be done all in one file. it should have been done all in advanced editor and i didn't do anything in that. converting every file back to advanced would require too much work, besides, i don't believe i'd be able to do it and make it work at the same time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 13, 2016 Share Posted March 13, 2016 in 3fgn folder there is 3fgnbel file which is without db changes, well with one change that i have no idea what it might have been. the number of changes is seen once you go to start new league.i've remembered why it couldn't be done all in one file. it should have been done all in advanced editor and i didn't do anything in that. converting every file back to advanced would require too much work, besides, i don't believe i'd be able to do it and make it work at the same time. Regarding the Belgium file, can you check if the file linked in the first post is the right one? In that one there is a 3FGN BEL file, last modified December 4th, 1.2mb and that one has all the db changes. Yes, to merge all the files I converted everything to advanced rules. Everything still seems to work, but I'm still testing all the leagues to make sure. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 13, 2016 Author Share Posted March 13, 2016 wow mate, youre my hero... i've checked the file and it is the one you are talking about. have no clue what i was doing there... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 17, 2016 Share Posted March 17, 2016 I've done all the fixes and updated the East German league system to be more accurate. I also made some changes to the Champions Cup so that the seeding is no longer random. To avoid the duplicate data, I've put all the data in a single file, which also has the structures for all European continental and the international competitions. This file is now named "00 Iron Curtain" and needs to be loaded alongside the four country specific files, which have been stripped of the data. FM loads the data files in alphabetical order, so with this name the DB changes are loaded first. I've run a test on holiday and there were no errors. I've uploaded what I have here: http://www.mediafire.com/download/seax4p7y2ts9cau/xxxIRON_CURTAINxxx.zip I'm going to give the soviet leagues a little bit of love next (move to calendar year schedule and add the third division). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Amazing Dale Watkins Posted March 18, 2016 Share Posted March 18, 2016 I just noticed the World Cup format is a bit random, too. I can add proper seeding for the group and knockout stages. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted March 18, 2016 Author Share Posted March 18, 2016 Amazing work Dale Watkins! the seeding in Champions Cup is on purpose without seeding as that was the rule at the time. however WC isn't as i just didn't bother. Regarding Soviet league, i left it as is because i was planning to do the proper lower divisions for next year. They had kind of similar system to yugoslavia and it would take too much time to assingn clubs to their divisions. let me know when you are done with all the updates and i'll put the file in the opening post. cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 i`m really looking forward to this edit is it possible to integrate the country of zaire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolf_pd Posted March 19, 2016 Share Posted March 19, 2016 I think a renaming of DR Congo would be all in this case, plus a changed flag. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jorgen Posted March 21, 2016 Share Posted March 21, 2016 This looks very interesting. For the club naming issues, mentioned in the early posts of this thread, regarding the combination with the Susie real name file, woudn't it just be easier to have started with Susie's file and have that names edited? Perhaps for next year, if it is too much trouble to do it again. As for the collaboration with The Amazing Dale Watkins, will the suggestions of the new SSSR premier division clubs be in the file, or will the teams be divided over the leagues as they are now? Also will there be new intenational cups like the CIS cup (although there was no CIS at the time of the SSSR), Baltic Cup, or other cups to play between clubs of different nations / SSSR regions? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 how is it looking with the update? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmioan Posted April 12, 2016 Share Posted April 12, 2016 First of all, very nice job and very nice idea. I got a few questions/problems: 1. Even if I selected EG Leagues as playable, East Germany only generates 2-3 players per year and they are all very weak. (they have german names, though). The other grey players have gibraltarian names. 2. The best East Germany players are released by their clubs after 2-3 years, and they remain free agents for a very long time. (Felix Kroos, Zelalem, Arnold, etc) So, my question is if this is a common error, or if i did something wrong. The fact is I don't know if it's MBarbaric's file or Dale Watkin's one, because I can't remember which one I used. 3. Is there a simple way to NOT change Champions League rules? It's a little frustrating seeing Icelandic teams in Group Stage. Thank you very much and again, VERY NICE JOB! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pero11 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 How did you make it so that players wouldn't leave the league until they're close to their thirties? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolation19 Posted April 13, 2016 Share Posted April 13, 2016 I have downloaded the files but Spain and East Germany don't have enough teams in the leagues. Any ideas why? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isolation19 Posted April 15, 2016 Share Posted April 15, 2016 I have downloaded the files but Spain and East Germany don't have enough teams in the leagues. Any ideas why? Thanks I sorted it by using the original 6 download files and the original database. For some reason the winter update messed things up for me. Great database. Having fun in my first season in Yugoslavia Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Cro Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Krlenjushka what skin are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
krlenjushka Posted May 2, 2016 Share Posted May 2, 2016 Krlenjushka what skin are you using? ??? this isnt my thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 First of all, very nice job and very nice idea. I got a few questions/problems:1. Even if I selected EG Leagues as playable, East Germany only generates 2-3 players per year and they are all very weak. (they have german names, though). The other grey players have gibraltarian names. 2. The best East Germany players are released by their clubs after 2-3 years, and they remain free agents for a very long time. (Felix Kroos, Zelalem, Arnold, etc) So, my question is if this is a common error, or if i did something wrong. The fact is I don't know if it's MBarbaric's file or Dale Watkin's one, because I can't remember which one I used. 3. Is there a simple way to NOT change Champions League rules? It's a little frustrating seeing Icelandic teams in Group Stage. Thank you very much and again, VERY NICE JOB! check if you use original or winter update database that might sort the issues you are having. however,you are probably using Watkin's add on as the issue for newgens is known bug. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/456333-No-regens-in-new-country Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted May 4, 2016 Author Share Posted May 4, 2016 I sorted it by using the original 6 download files and the original database. For some reason the winter update messed things up for me.Great database. Having fun in my first season in Yugoslavia yes, the db should be used with original DB, glad you enjoy it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Ray Posted May 28, 2016 Share Posted May 28, 2016 I'm getting an error that "All teams in DDR Liga must be assigned to the parent division or its child division, not both", apparently for the East Germany file. I've tried having a look in the editor both at this file and the 000 file but I'm not seeing anything that's out of place. Rest of the leagues seem to work okay, but E Germany won't load as a result of this error. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted June 2, 2016 Share Posted June 2, 2016 will there be a final version with the work from dale watkins? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 I'm getting an error that "All teams in DDR Liga must be assigned to the parent division or its child division, not both", apparently for the East Germany file. I've tried having a look in the editor both at this file and the 000 file but I'm not seeing anything that's out of place. Rest of the leagues seem to work okay, but E Germany won't load as a result of this error. Any ideas? you are probably trying to load the winter transfer database with iron curtain.try the original 16.0.0 database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 will there be a final version with the work from dale watkins? probably best to pm dale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted June 5, 2016 Author Share Posted June 5, 2016 will there be a final version with the work from dale watkins? probably best to pm dale Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted June 12, 2016 Share Posted June 12, 2016 probably best to pm dale still haven´t received any answer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted June 13, 2016 Author Share Posted June 13, 2016 still haven´t received any answer sorry to hear that but dale was the one who did the update on original db so he is only one who can answer that. in meanwhile you could try it yourself. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forest Posted June 21, 2016 Share Posted June 21, 2016 are you still working on thos? we could try to recreate the old international cups as well, like the oly World Cup Format with 24 Teams and the old European Championship Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted June 22, 2016 Author Share Posted June 22, 2016 well, as far as I know it is already like that in the db. if not, then i did it minimally different for some technical reason as the idea was to remake all as it was before 91. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendof88 Posted August 1, 2016 Share Posted August 1, 2016 Hi Quick question. More of a how you did it question, I wanted to just add the Soviet and Yugoslav national teams, not the complete change of the league. Can you tell me how in the editor you can do that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBarbaric Posted August 2, 2016 Author Share Posted August 2, 2016 20 hours ago, legendof88 said: Hi Quick question. More of a how you did it question, I wanted to just add the Soviet and Yugoslav national teams, not the complete change of the league. Can you tell me how in the editor you can do that? you should put nations that make i.e. yugoslavia (croatia, slovenia...) to extinc and non fifa member, rename one of the nations i.e. russia to soviet union and transfer all the players from rest of the nations (ucraine, belarus...) to soviet union. however you'd have to remake all the international competitions since default format is expecting 50ish nations while you'd have significantly less as ucraine, belarus... wouldn't exist anymore. if you look around internet there might already be such database. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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