abulezz Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Congrats on the Ukrainian Cup Final victory - well deserved! How is the title race going - do we celebrate yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 May 2013 Update Results 04.05.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 3 - 0 Metallurg Donetsk (DATAGROUP Football Ukraine Cup, Semi Final) Dominic Adiyah 39, 44, 77 08.05.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0 - 0 Shakhtar Donetsk (Vyshcha Liha) 12.05.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 0 PFC Sevastopol (DATAGROUP Football Ukraine Cup Final) Ruslan Rotan 5 Alan Dzagoev 21 18.05.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1 - 0 Karpaty Lviv (Vyshcha Liha) Artem Milevskyi 21 26.05.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 0 Chornomorets Odesa (Vyshcha Liha) Artem Milevskyi 10, 16 ------------------------------- We did it! We did it! In one of the greatest months in club history, we delivered the first ever League & Cup double in Dnipro's history. We rampaged through the month without conceding a goal, especially with a fantastic 0-0 draw against Shakhtar, where it seemed our destiny was inexorable and only a titanic display from the Shakhtar keeper kept us from sealing the title early! As it was, it came down to the last day and an early double by Artem Milevskyi meant that we were in party mood for much of the game and we could take it easy! Next season will obviously be a killer as it will be our first European Cup/Champions League adventure since 1990/91! But with the new philosophy in mind, we should end up with some great talent to join the squad! I'm a little disappointed with our early Europa League exit, but I do think that it helped us by not jamming up our fixtures, plus it meant I searched for a better formation and came up with a 4-2-3-1 that really shone. Also, Nikola Kalinic didn't feature much in the second half of the season, so he may be sold on so I can replace Michael Mancienne who, despite his good perfomances, isn't worth the £5.25m that Hamburger SV are demanding for him. ------------------------------------------ Final Results DATAGROUP Football Ukraine Cup: Winners (vs Metalurg Donetsk) Vyshcha Liha: Winners (with 63pts from 30 games) UEFA Europa League: Lost in Playoff (vs SK Rapid Wien) Top Scorer: Roman Zozulya / Diego Buonanotte / Eugene Konoplyanka (with 9) Top Assists: Ivan Strinic (with 8) Top Rating: (minimum 12 games played) Alan Dzagoev (7.69 over 14 games) Manager's Player Of The Year: Anatoily Tymoschuk ---------------------------------------------- Finally, the winning game in full! [video=youtube_share;_uFKtoDoZqE] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abulezz Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Massive congratulations are in order! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well done on a double. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well done on a double. Massive congratulations are in order! Thanks guys! Just been informed by the media that Ukraine coach Oleg Blokhin shows a 'sizable bias towards Dnipro with no less than 8 players from the club in his international squad'! Well, why not? We ARE the champions! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Brilliant stuff, of course there should be bias towards your side! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnakeXe Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 When I started reading this thread and saw a 2-7 defeat to Rapid Wien I really don't think I expected to see the season end with a league and cup double! Great job turning things around, be interesting to see how you get on in the Champions League next season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 4, 2012 Author Share Posted November 4, 2012 When I started reading this thread and saw a 2-7 defeat to Rapid Wien I really don't think I expected to see the season end with a league and cup double! Great job turning things around, be interesting to see how you get on in the Champions League next season. Entirely due to the change in formation and the team learning to play with each other IMO... Oh and Alan Dzagoev... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.W.G Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Congratulations on winning the double Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AK22 Posted November 4, 2012 Share Posted November 4, 2012 Well done, excellent double! Already broken the Shakhtar stranglehold! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Well done, excellent double! Already broken the Shakhtar stranglehold! Not quite sure on that one yet. I need a title or two more.. Congratulations on winning the double Thanks guys! Really appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 I made a loss last season of 547% last season..... Oy... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 How are you managing that? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Brilliant on the pitch mate well done. Hopefully the finances will improve because that seems like one hell of a loss Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 How are you managing that? I lost £25m. Mainly the Dzagoev buy and wages... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Brilliant on the pitch mate well done. Hopefully the finances will improve because that seems like one hell of a loss Thanks man.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 09 July 2013 Inter Super Cup of Ukraine Stadion Tsentralnyi, Mykolaiva Att: 69,004 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 0 PFC Sevastopol Diego Buonanotte 1 Artem Milevskyi 46 In a replay of last season's DATAPOOL Football Cup Ukraine Final, I led the team out on a cool night for the Inter Super Cup of Ukraine against PFC Sevastopol. Only newcomer was defender David Lomban, on loan from Barcelona in place of the departed Michael Mancienne. We kicked off and moved the ball down the pitch. Tymoschuk laid the ball out wide to Mandzyuk who lofted a deep ball into the 18 yard box. The man who reacted fast enough was Diego Buonanotte who nipped in to side-foot volley the ball past the keeper with barely a minute on the clock. This meant that we were comfortably in charge of the game and just played the ball about without any sense of urgency..Sevastopol had a few shots, but all of them, without exception were wild. HT came and when and less than a minute after the restart, Diego Buonanotte picked up the ball just inside the Sevastopol half and drove forward. He then played a laser-guided through ball into the path of Artem Milevskyi who stroked the ball into the bottom corner. 2-0 and it was the dagger in the heart. The game just petered out after that and, as the final whistle blew, we became the first club since 2004 other than Shakhtar or Dynamo to win the Super Cup! [video=youtube_share;x7cJUX4sOnw] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 July 2013 Update So this season, I was again given a brief to make Europe, all on a £300k p/w wage budget and a £11.25m transfer budget. . Seems legit... ---------------------------------- Results 12.07.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1 - 1 Chornomorets Odesa (Vyshcha Liha) Denys Oliynyk 38 20.07.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 3 - 1 Vorskla Poltava (Vyshcha Liha) Roman Zozulya 43 Artem Milevskyi 47, 53 27.07.2012 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 3 - 1 Illichivets Maruipol (Vyshcha Liha) Anatoliy Tymoschuk 29 (pen) Eugene Seleznyov 37 Diego Buonanotte 46 Well, a slow start for us this season. The 90th minute equaliser for Chornomorets was a double deflection and no justice for us. But slowly we ground into gear with back-to-back 3-1 wins. ------------------------------------- Well, we didn't have much to change from last year's side. Two or three players slipped through my grasp; Italian AMC Marco Verratti went on loan from Paris Saint-Germain to Udinese. Finally, MC Clement Chantome wanted over £56k p/w to sign for us and I frankly couldn't justify spending that on him. All that came in this month were loans. DC David Lomban on a season-long from Barcelona, ST Andre-Pierre Gignac for 4 months and our former striker Eugene Selezynov for 3 months from Dynamo Kiev. Selling-wise, DC Ondrej Mazuch was shipped off to Olympiakos Piraeus for £4.9m and then ST Olexy Antonov was sold to Karpaty for £2.7m. Finally, I shipped Nikola Kalinic off on loan to Glasgow Celtic. My DoF sold a number of U-21/Dnipro-2 players too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Nice start and another trophy mate well done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 5, 2012 Author Share Posted November 5, 2012 Nice start and another trophy mate well done. Thanks man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted November 5, 2012 Share Posted November 5, 2012 Those are big budgets for that league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
noikeee Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Congrats on the first season double and now the Supercup. That was quick to get Dnipro into success! You've posted that you've lost 25M though, is the club in financial trouble now then? Perhaps this is the season you calm down in the transfer market and stabilize things? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Those are big budgets for that league. I had a very high wage budget, simply as I needed to sign Tymoschuk, so I sent some funds towards the wages before the end of the season. As for the transfer budget, it was what we had in the account... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Congrats on the first season double and now the Supercup. That was quick to get Dnipro into success! You've posted that you've lost 25M though, is the club in financial trouble now then? Perhaps this is the season you calm down in the transfer market and stabilize things? No, no, we had a starting balance of £35m in the coffers! I'm looking at not signing many players other than on loan.. But if the right player is free.. Dynamo Kiev are in dire straits ATM.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Deisler's title >>>>> Flamers' Favouritism. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRL88 Posted November 6, 2012 Share Posted November 6, 2012 Solid start to the season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 6, 2012 Author Share Posted November 6, 2012 Solid start to the season. Thanks man, yeah we're doing good. I think that really Dynamo and Shakhtar are our only problems... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 "Good evening and welcome to the 2013-14 UEFA Champions League Group Stage draw. This year's draw takes in very little surprises, apart from the lowest-rated team in the competition, Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk, who haven't been in the Champions League in any incarnation since 1990-91.. Right, over to Michel, Michel?" "Evening. Ze draw was made and zee's are ze groups.." Group A Real Madrid (ESP) Olympique Marseille (FRA) Panathinaikos (GRE) DNIPRO DNIPROPETROVSK (UKR) Group B Chelsea (ENG) Atletico Madrid (ESP) Standard Liege (BEL) Dinamo Zagreb (CRO) Group C Arsenal (ENG) SL Benfica (POR) Juventus (ITA) Feyenoord (NED) Group D FC Bayern Munich (GER) CSKA Moscow (RUS) Paris Saint-Germain (FRA) Hapoel Tel-Aviv (ISR) Group E Manchester United (ENG) Shakhtar Donetsk (UKR) Borussia Dortmund (GER) FC Vaslui (ROU) Group F FC Porto (POR) Schalke 04 (GER) Olympiakos (GRE) FC Zurich (SUI) Group G Barcelona (ESP) Olympique Lyonnais (FRA) Rubin Kazan (RUS) Trabzonspor (TUR) Group H A.C Milan (ITA) Valencia (ESP) Liverpool (ENG) Sparta Prague (CZE) ---------------------------------- Oh f*** Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 August 2013 Update Welp. It looks like our Champions League dreams are over before they started. Madrid and OM are going to kill us. ---------------------------------- Results 03.08.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1 - 0 Obolon Kyiv (Vyshcha Liha) Eugene Konoplyanka 46 10.08.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 0 Arsenal Kyiv (Vyshcha Liha) Carlos Fierro 13 Artem Milevskyi 88 17.08.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1 - 0 Shakhtar Donetsk (Vyshcha Liha) Alan Dzagoev 29 24.08.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 4 - 1 Volyn Lutsk (Vyshcha Liha) Alan Dzagoev 27 Diego Buonanotte 40 Roman Zozulya 55 Javad Nekounam 64 A perfect month, topped off by the toppling of Shakhtar 1-0 to give us our first win over them! ------------------------------------- Just a few more additions for the end of the transfer window. DC Isaac Vorsah came in for £3.8m from FC Red Bull Salzburg as our main covering DC and only cash signing of August. Loan-wise, DM Anthony Annan came in on loan from Schalke 04 and ST Eugene Selezynov came BACK on loan from Dynamo Kyiv for the next two seasons. What happened was I was paying £250k p/m to keep Selezynov, so I cancelled that loan, but barely a week before the deadline, he was transfer-listed and dumped into Dynamo-2. So I snatched him up for the next two seasons without having to pay a red cent! I also failed miserably with a £15m offer for Andriy Yarmolenko, when he totally rejected me out of hand. Only player of note out was DM Derek Boateng to ACF Fiorentina for £3.5m. Boateng was mostly unused last season due to the titanic performances of Tymoschuk. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 BREAKING NEWS I had Liverpool coming in with a £20m bid for Eugene Konoplyanka on the 2nd Sept. The very fact they wanted the deal tied up by the end of the day said to me they were desperate. I tacked on a 50% sell on clause and they snapped my hand off. I agreed the deal but, with just a few hours to go, the deal fell apart as they couldn't raise the funds. Borussia Dortmund then stepped into the breach, but they balked at £21m & 50%, so Konoplyanka is still a Dnipro player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Man, that deal would have definitely given you some financial security! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 You could have used the money I think. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ashton321 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Tough draw in the CL, you seemed to have started the season well though so you never know. Shame you could not get rid of him the cash could have really helped maybe he will go in the next window Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Man, that deal would have definitely given you some financial security! You could have used the money I think. Tough draw in the CL, you seemed to have started the season well though so you never know. Shame you could not get rid of him the cash could have really helped maybe he will go in the next window Well, I certainly could have used the cash, but the player is a part of my 6 home-grown players limit and it would have impacted that. Plus I got £8m for playing in the Champions League Group Stage. So, I don't massively miss it, but I would take double his value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.W.G Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Made a very good start to the season.That is a tough group but hopefully you can get something against the Greeks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 17 September 2013 UEFA Champions League Group Stage Arena-Dnipro, Dnipropetrovsk Att: 30,791 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0 - 4 Olympique Marseille Our first Champions League game of the modern era saw us take the stage at home against French heavyweights Olympique Marseille. Issac Vorsah was suspended for the game, a legacy from his days at RB Salzburg, so David Lomban came in at the centre of defence, otherwise we had a full first team squad to send out. That optimism lasted 4 mins as the L'OM forward latched onto a long ball forward and rolled the ball under Bolat to open the scoring. We then took the fight to them, having two good chances but the L'OM keeper was equal to them. Vitaliy Mandzyuk got nobbled on 33 mins and was limping badly, so I replaced him with Pavlo Pashaev. Finally, just before HT, L'OM doubled their lead with a rasping 25 yard strike that was still rising as it hit the back of the net. We weren't doing too bad at HT, so I sent the guys back out with a vote of confidence. Eugene Cheberyachko was having a torrid time against the L'OM forwards and he was turned inside out again, as they trebled their advantage with a simple run and shot. That was enough for me and I gave him the hook at a 5.1 rating. On came Lucas Zen. There was still time to concede a comedy goal as the L'OM winger screwed a cross-field ball from the halfway line and it looped over the stunned Sinan Bolat and into the net. There was still time for Milevskyi to beat the entire L'OM defence to a looped free-kick, but his header beat the keeper and smashed off the bar and Tymoschuk to have his 20 yard screamer pushed around the post. The final whistle went and we'd lost 0-4. On paper, it was a routine win for them, but I'd seen some good performances from the guys to show that, maybe, we could sneak the Europa League spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Made a very good start to the season.That is a tough group but hopefully you can get something against the Greeks. That's literally my only hope atm. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 I would have sold him if I were you. 21M is not bad for Konoplyanka. Congrats on winning the league Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 I would have sold him if I were you. 21M is not bad for Konoplyanka. Congrats on winning the league Thanks man! I probably would have, tbh.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Well, my tactical genius has failed me. Gutted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Very tough CL group going well domestically though, I enjoy reading about and playing these type of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Very tough CL group going well domestically though, I enjoy reading about and playing these type of games. Thanks man! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 September 2013 Update Results 01.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0 - 1 PFC Sevastopol (Vyshcha Liha) 14.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 1 Karpaty Lviv (Vyshcha Liha) Eugene Shakhov 59 Eugene Cheberyachko 75 17.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0 - 4 Olympique Marseille (UEFA Champions League, Group A) 21.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 3 - 3 Metalist Kharkiv (Vyshcha Liha) Roman Zozulya 18 Carlos Fierro 29, 71 25.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 0 - 3 Bukovyna Chernivtsi (DATAPOOL Football Ukraine Cup, Second Round) 28.09.2013 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 2 - 0 Metalurg Zaportizhyha (Vyshcha Liha) Roman Zozulya 11 Carlos Fierro 61 ----------------------------------------- A diabolical month and one mainly down to me. I blooded young goalie Mykhaylo Polyanskyi and young AMC Mykola Andrievskyi in the cup loss and Polyanskyi also played in the league match against Metalurg Zp. My problem was that I played Metalist Kharkiv with a rotational side, due to the CL match earlier in the week. The 3-3 draw was acceptable, but then came the dilemma. I had three games in a week, but the only one that mattered was the CL match against Panathinaikos AO at the beginning of next month. I thought about starting the first XI, but I ended up completely changing the side for the Cup game and it showed as they had no fluency and we slumped badly to defeat. Then came the league match, where I played a 50/50 and luckily, we won... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 02 October 2013 UEFA Champions League Group Stage OAKA Spyros Louis, Athens Att: 46,154 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 4 - 2 Panathinaikos AO Diego Buonanotte 8, 30 Giuliano 20 Alan Dzagoev 34 We made the long 1,300km journey from the Ukraine to Greece for our first-ever Champions League away game. Both teams had made bad starts, losing 0-4 and we were looking to bounce back. All the regulars were back in the team with Eugene Selezynov preferred to Artem Milevskyi up front. We kicked off and were in the lead by 8 minutes. A deep Giuliano cross was headed out as far as Tymoschuk, who fed it back into Diego Buonanotte who fired home from the edge of the area! Things got even better for us 10 mins later, as a quick break from a corner saw Dzagoev feed Buonanotte, who sprinted away down the left wing, cut inside and then chipped to the far post, where an onrushing Giuliano met it with a volley to double our advantage Another 10 mins passed and we trebled our advantage. Another quick break saw Selezynov break down the right, cut in, then cut the ball back. The cut-back took out the entire Pana defence and Diego Buonanotte fired home for his second of the game and our third. Buonanotte turned provider for the fourth on 34 minutes, a chipped ball over the defence saw Alan Dzagoev bravely beat the Pana keeper to the ball to head home number 4. We were 4-0 up at HT and stunned. We slacked off after the break and conceded two goals, both empty netters after mistakes from Sinan Bolat. Artem Milevskyi came on for Eugene Selezynov late on, but we'd run out easy winners... ------------------ [video=youtube_share;AOW8wUjKQmk] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cerud Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Much better showing in Greece. How do you stack up in your group right now? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 7, 2012 Author Share Posted November 7, 2012 Much better showing in Greece. How do you stack up in your group right now? Thanks man. I'm currently 3rd in the group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deltablue Posted November 7, 2012 Share Posted November 7, 2012 Important win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 23 October 2013 UEFA Champions League Group Stage Estadio Santiago Bernabéu, Madrid Att: 77,779 Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk 1 - 4 Real Madrid Roman Zozulya 62 Anthony Annan s/o 88 The bright lights of Madrid and flamenco music serenaded us as we pulled into the away car park of the legendary Santiago Bernabeu. Having just played a tough game against Dynamo Kyiv, having another tough game against Metalurg Donetsk on the weekend and having very little chance in this game, I basically played the rotation squad. This to make sure that we had fresh players for the weekend. The game kicked off and it took 7 minutes for Luka Modric's Scum tendancies to rear their head, as he dived over a tackle to win a penalty. However, justice was served as no card and Madrid missed the penalty. However, Madrid took the lead on 19 mins and never looked back. They added a second and third just before HT, but I was satisfied with our performance and told them so. And we fought back with Roman Zozulya netting a shot from a tight angle after the Madrid keeper saved a shot from Konoplyanka. But on 79 minutes, they scored again and that was it apart from Anthony Annan's dismissal for a second yellow on 88 mins. ------------------ [video=youtube_share;mU8dH9YdxM0] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
john1 Posted November 8, 2012 Share Posted November 8, 2012 Tough loss to OM and Real Madrid, Im sure you get big income with Real Madrid coming to your place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deisler26 Posted November 8, 2012 Author Share Posted November 8, 2012 Tough loss to OM and Real Madrid, Im sure you get big income with Real Madrid coming to your place I hope so! The win against Panathinaikos was needed as it was near on a £1m per win. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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