saosinfan4 Posted December 8, 2012 Share Posted December 8, 2012 I just finished my first season. Scudetto and UCL (UCL w/o Falcao and Jose Enrique b/c squad registration bug, final w/o Cavani and Alaba - injuries) transfers: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Crazy transfers, how did u manage to get the through in the summer season 1 ? Can someone explain the tax bug ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 9, 2012 Author Share Posted December 9, 2012 Awesome my save just go corrupted.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted December 9, 2012 Share Posted December 9, 2012 Well the employer contribution rate for pensions is mistakenly set at 40 something percent for Italy instead of the 23 percent it should be. Which means everyone is leaking money and team finances go down the toilet over the long term. I found by season 3, every other team barely had any cash to spend and were just stagnating AFAIK you have to jump into the editor and manually fix it, which isn't save compatible Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 10, 2012 Author Share Posted December 10, 2012 Well the employer contribution rate for pensions is mistakenly set at 40 something percent for Italy instead of the 23 percent it should be. Which means everyone is leaking money and team finances go down the toilet over the long term. I found by season 3, every other team barely had any cash to spend and were just stagnating AFAIK you have to jump into the editor and manually fix it, which isn't save compatible Where can I find this in editor ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saosinfan4 Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Where can I find this in editor ? Nations > Italy > Tax > Pension Employer > change 38% to 23% Crazy transfers, how did u manage to get the through in the summer season 1 ? 48 months deals, for example Falcao: €12m upfront + another €35m over 48 months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted December 10, 2012 Share Posted December 10, 2012 Hadn't this bug been fixed in the latest patch or not yet? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saosinfan4 Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 italian tax bug was not fixed. SI don't care... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 11, 2012 Author Share Posted December 11, 2012 Started my new game with Juve, went a little crazy with the transfers but whatever. Ins: - Edinson Cavani - £39M (£30M over 48 months) - Emre Can - £13.5M (£10M over 48months) - 5* prospect wanted to try him out even though the price was nice. - Stevan Jovetic - £4.6M - co ownership - but he's at Fiorentina - Marco Verratti - £0 loan Outs: - Fabio Quagliarella - loaned out - 50% wages + £120k monthly payments. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 stgahoy, hope your well, long time no see. Great OP. I assume you have a future fee option on Marco Verratti? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted December 11, 2012 Share Posted December 11, 2012 You guys really seem to like Verratti. I totally ignore him since he rejected us this summer. Also found out that Pogba is doing a fine job at the DMC - Deep Lying Playmaker spot and since I have Onazi (who is nowhere near Verratti or Pogba but still) I think that there is no need for more players in the-Pirlo-spot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 12, 2012 Author Share Posted December 12, 2012 stgahoy, hope your well, long time no see. Great OP. I assume you have a future fee option on Marco Verratti? Hehe, I see u changed your nickname, still playing? Or just passing by ? I dont have a future fee on Verratti, they wanted a fee of £20M so I didnt want such a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raghav Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Just started a game with Juve- I play 4-4-2 usually but with the personnel I have it might be hard to do so in the first season. Sold Vucinic for 23 million pounds, Barzagli for 7 million and open to selling Matri, Quaglierella, Pepe etc. The purchases so far have been- Ba for 7 million Astori for 10.5 million (Toss up between him and Badstuber for 14.5 million and even though I had agreements for both I cancelled the deal with the German as his wages were more than double of Astori and honestly the Italian seems to have the better stats) Jovetic co-ownership for 4.8 million but he will stay in florence for one year. My marquee signing however is Mario Gotze who I snapped up for 29 million. Planning to play GK RB-CB-CB-LB Two ball winners and one creative that is either Gotze or Pirlo. Deep CM for Pirlo and Advanced for Gotze. Where I have to grind out results I will consider adding Asamoah along with Vidal and Marchisio -----ST------ With a month in the window left I plan to buy a left back and maybe a few youths. I definitely plan to sell Quaglierella and Matri later within the year if not now and add Llorente next season. Also keeping tabs on Bochetti (free) and Gareth Bale (Next marquee signing for 2013) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lisandro Lopez Posted December 12, 2012 Share Posted December 12, 2012 Hehe, I see u changed your nickname, still playing? Or just passing by ?I dont have a future fee on Verratti, they wanted a fee of £20M so I didnt want such a deal. I have. I still play now and then, getting time is the problem. I see, thanks. Yeah £20Million is abit much at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekran Karisic Posted December 13, 2012 Share Posted December 13, 2012 Meanwhile, during my 1st season in Juventus, Buffon gets injured for 5 months and decides that he wants to retire. Tried to change his mind but it was hopeless. This kinda demoralized me :/ I completely forgot that I'll have to play with Rubinho for the last 2 months of the season, all i think is that 'The' Goalkeeper, Mr Gianluigi Buffon, won't be in my squad next season ... By the end of the season i'll try to post something about it went overall. Cheers! PS: Any recommendation for the GK position? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 14, 2012 Author Share Posted December 14, 2012 Try going for Ter Stegen or Lloris ,I managed to get Lloris for 15M which was quite cheap for a GK of his class. Just signed this regen, have to say wow just wow Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrefuze Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 hehe.. Even the AI wanted to name him Niclas CLASS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
youngrookie Posted December 14, 2012 Share Posted December 14, 2012 just starting 4th season. Been playing with a back 3 up until Febuary of 3rd season. 3rd season i was getting results but playing poorly. Maybe the AI figured out how i was playing. Felt i was getting away with it as the italian league is of a pretty poor standard at the moment, but if i was to defend my European crown i needed to make a change. After looking at my team i opted for 433/451. Was a bit worried about using a back 4 as the 3 man defense was so water tight. But there was no worries needed the change worked great. Won all the competitions i entered and was playing very good football. For the first time ever on FM i played with an Adv playmaker (supp) in the AML position. Anyone else use a playmaker there? End of first season i invested in a bunch of youngsters with 4 to 5 star ratings. They are all now just starting to show their potential with only one of the 4/5 stars yellow, all very promising. The 433/451 formation im using is as follows: sw gk(d) - ter stegan dr(s) - Isla dl(s) - De Ceglie (very underrated) dc's(d) - Bonucci and Chiellini dmc(d) - Marrone mc(auto) - Marchisio mc(a) - Vidal (a big hit here) amr(inf,s) - Isco (new signing, pressured to buy big name) aml(adv p,s) - Gotze/Giovinco st (dlf,s) - Falco very fluid with a control strategy. Shorter passing with high closing down, more aggressive tackling and more roaming. Everything else default. No player changes apart for defender collecting from gk and all long shots reduced to rarely. No signed playmaker or target man. What i am starting to worry about is that 5 of my 1st team are out of contact in a year and all want massive wages, Falco 245k for example. This could be down to coming off a very successful season. I rejected all their agents offers. Was wondering if i should wait till late November before offering again as they might go for less. Don't want to offer to many times and reject them as their agents will start to dislike me and then i will be in a pickle as they will not negotiate me. Do Juventus ever get their stadium increased? In the boardroom its always grayed out. I have 200m in bank so money is not a problem. Have you guys got it higher? And feeder clubs, the board can never find me one, really frustrating this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 italian tax bug was not fixed. SI don't care... it have been fixed, but the fix will not come into action until SI chose to put out the next db...whenever that will be....in the mean time there's a quick fix linked to in the italian db thread or you can just sort it yourself in the editor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted December 15, 2012 Author Share Posted December 15, 2012 Just bought the 2nd half of Jovetić for £1M after Fiorentina got relegated, so Jovetić in for a total of £5.6M what a bargain. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted December 15, 2012 Share Posted December 15, 2012 Haha, I've tried to bring Sneijder after Inter got relegated for £6.5M but they were constantly rejecting my bids even tho it was his asking price and I was bidding more than the other teams but this is due to the rivalry. Sneijder would have been a great signing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zekran Karisic Posted December 20, 2012 Share Posted December 20, 2012 Well, this last week has been completely exhausting due to school issues but i managed to end the first season. (wanted to post some images to show you the final table and transfers but it seems i don't have permission) Took 1st place with a 13 point difference. In Champions League i got knocked out on the semi-finals by Man.Utd thanks to the wonderful goalkeeper called Rubinho... Costed me a place in the final! Transfers in: Jovetic - 21M Demba Ba - 7M Gotze - 35M Cavani - 34M (january transfer window) Rugani - 1.8M (that kid from the U-18) Major transfer out: Storari - 2M Padoin - 2.5 (co-proposal) Giaccherini - 7.75M Vucinic - 15M (january) Starting now my 13-14 pre-season. I think i'll get loads of money so ladies hide your star footballers, i'm coming for them! I'll try to say a few more things about this last season but first i need to do the transfer period Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RvN#17 Posted December 25, 2012 Share Posted December 25, 2012 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barkers Posted December 28, 2012 Share Posted December 28, 2012 would highly reccomend new starters to keep on Gabbiadini (co owned with atalanta, loaned to bolonga if i remember correctly) within 4 seasons in my atalata save he has developed into a 20mil player, top league goal scorer and european golden boot 2 years running. cost me 500k to get him back from the co-ownership deal end of season 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
flamydale Posted January 5, 2013 Share Posted January 5, 2013 Just finished my first season with Juventus. Was domestically dominant winning Serie A undefeated by 20 points, Italian Cup and Super Cup. However, in Champions League I was knocked out by Man City in quarter final and also humbled by Bayern Munich in the group stages. Formation 4-1-1-3-1 GK-DR-DC-DC-DL-DMRC-MLC-AMR-AMC-AML-ST Transfers: In Demba Ba - 7m Fellaini - 24m (Jan) Falcao - 29m (Jan) Out Released Iaquinta due to wages Some loans but no major exits. Stand out players Sebastian Giovinco - Appearances 35(5) Goals 13 Assists 25 Avg .Rating 7.74 Starting playing him at AML but quickly moved him to AMC and he ran the show most games providing a ridiculous amount of assists and popping up with some crucial last minute goals. Leonardo Bonucci - Appearances 46(2) Goals 10 Assists 4 Avg. Rating 7.71 Dominant at the back all season, popped up with numerous goals from set pieces as well. Falcao - Appearances 22(3) Goals 15 Assists 2 Avg. Rating 7.57 Brought in during January due to lack of quality options and Ba also went to African Nations. Played well considering I use lone striker in a Target Man Support role. Definitely need to adapt my tactics so he can flourish more. Arturo Vidal - Appearances 31(3) Goals 2 Assists 2 Avg. Rating 7.56 Protected the back four all season always popping up with crucial tackles and interceptions. Only downside is his disciplinary record 22 yellows 1 red. Alessandro Matri - Appearances 39(5) Goals 15 Assists 15 Avg. Rating 7.48 Played him at AMR all season, provided plenty of assists and despite playing as a winger cut in many times on his left foot and smashed the goals in. Hoping to sign a left back and adjust my tactics to utilize striker more. Also Vucinic was terrible for me, couldn't get him playing in any position. Has he been performing for you? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted January 8, 2013 Share Posted January 8, 2013 This makes it 17 goals scored and 6 goals conceded in 3 games against Chelsea this season... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo incendio Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Started my new game with Juve, went a little crazy with the transfers but whatever.Ins: - Edinson Cavani - £39M (£30M over 48 months) - Emre Can - £13.5M (£10M over 48months) - 5* prospect wanted to try him out even though the price was nice. - Stevan Jovetic - £4.6M - co ownership - but he's at Fiorentina - Marco Verratti - £0 loan Outs: - Fabio Quagliarella - loaned out - 50% wages + £120k monthly payments. What's the point of bringing in Verratti on loan? Juve are stacked in the midfield and bringing in a loan player will just take away game time from guys already at the club. Doesn't seem to make any sense. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo incendio Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 For some reason FM13 will not let me play as Juventus. All other Italian clubs are fine and I can select them. But Juve seems to be greyed out when I try to start a new game. Any ideas? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted January 13, 2013 Share Posted January 13, 2013 Depends on how good you are at rotation. Not to mention some players can be retrained, Asamoah is perfect for WBL and Marrone is a fine utility player since he can play DMC and DC with training. If you're playing with 2 MCs like I do, it's not a huge drama to rotate 5 or even 6 MCs if you make use of setting up reserve friendlies to give fringe players game time and match fitness. Plus loaning young players might get them to like you or the club which makes signing them easier, and if you can get an agreed price in the deal you might be able to get the player for a price well below their potential if you're lucky. Getting into the habit of good rotation is a good strategy, I usually run with a first team squad of around 28 and with using the reserves team and rotating, I do just fine. Hell it helps when you've got into the later stages of cup and continental competition to be able to rest the big stars. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vincenzo incendio Posted January 14, 2013 Share Posted January 14, 2013 Started juve save.... Made several staff changes... Players in: Iker Mounain (sp?) Demba Ba, Kouwne (sp?), Immobile, Puloso and a couple other youngsters. Players out: Quagliarella (loan with option), Matri, Pepe, Giach... think I sold another player but can't think of him off of the top of my head. I can't seem to score a lot on the tactics I have created. I am undefeated in my three matches so far, but in each one I am dominating possession and shots but I'm not able to break through until the last 10-15 mins. (Iker got injured on international duty and is out for 4 months) I could really use some suggestions on how to set up my tactics. Here is what I tend to use: Vucinic - Ba Giovinco Marchisio - Vidal Pirlo Puloso (wb) Chiellini - Barza - Bonnucci - Lichtsteiner (wb) Buffon I use shorter passing, rather high d-line... zonal marking... pretty much everything else is default. Any tips on how to tinker with the team instructions would be appreciated. I also have another formation which is a straight 4-3-3 with 3 strikers btu I haven't used that one too much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted January 19, 2013 Author Share Posted January 19, 2013 What's the point of bringing in Verratti on loan? Juve are stacked in the midfield and bringing in a loan player will just take away game time from guys already at the club. Doesn't seem to make any sense. I'm using a 3 MCs so Verratti was needed, as in the first season I had Marchisio, Pirlo, Vidal in the midfield, and on the bench for MC Marrone, Padoin, Pogba I dont really rate Padoin so I went for Verratti. Vucinic - Ba Giovinco Marchisio - Vidal Pirlo Puloso (wb) Chiellini - Barza - Bonnucci - Lichtsteiner (wb) Buffon You would win every game with this tactic, because of the bonus 12th man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted January 29, 2013 Author Share Posted January 29, 2013 Started a new Juve campaign with winter transfers. So Llorente joining for free in the summer. Transfers In: - Isco - £17.5M from Malaga - Activated his realese clausule want to try him, and make him my key man on this save. 5* potential so looking forward to him. - Carles Planas -£250k - Needed backup for WBL after selling De Ceglie and Contento being injured. I guess he can do the job as backup, also was transfer listed and cheap, and some space to develop. - Diego Contento - loan - loaned him out but he got injured for 5 months so I terminated the deal a week after it was done. Transfers Out: - Mirko Vucinic - £25M (£7.5M straight and the rest over 48 months) to Chelsea. Tottenham offered me £25M straight :o but Mirko chose Chelsea, and I wont complain, as wasnt in need of money. - Paulo De Ceglie - £4.1M to Lazio - even though he's ok on FM, I cant stand him his lack of abilities in RL is killing me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted January 30, 2013 Author Share Posted January 30, 2013 Also just bought Andrea Poli on co-own for £6M. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted January 31, 2013 Author Share Posted January 31, 2013 Hey can anyone help making the decision, Bayern is interested in Bonucci, and offered a massive £28M straight money, I propably could up it to £30M. I was thinking about buying Javi Martinez off them and play him as the right CB in my 3 man backline. What do you think ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted February 1, 2013 Share Posted February 1, 2013 Tell them where to stick it, I'd rather have Bonucci than what is effectively a retrained DM at the back. If you do want to take the money, I'd say Dede is a better like for like replacement. Maybe Yanga Mbiwa if he hasn't gone to Newcastle with your database, but he wouldn't be the same quality now. Bocchetti maybe, but he's 2 years older than Bonucci. Interesting you paid 6m for a co-own, I got Poli outright for 7m Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted February 1, 2013 Author Share Posted February 1, 2013 Sampdoria didnt want to let Poli go cheap.... Still made the deal with Bonucci being replaced by Javi Martinez. I prefer mental strong players, and Javi has great mental stats, also I dont like Bonucci in real world, so it wasnt hard to sell him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Come on Serie A, this is getting silly. Just won 4th Scudetto running and broke Inter's 2006/07 points record of 97 and triple figures getting 105 points for the season. Also secured a 4th running cup win and my second CL title with a 2-0 victory over Man City. Leandro Damiao justified his 34.5m fee by proving a more than adequate replacement for Matri with 32 goals and 14 assists in 37 matches. Sebastian Corchia on a free transfer was a revelation with 15 assists all up. Gotta love that 18 crossing stat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 Wow, a very good squad you have there phoenixemperor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted February 17, 2013 Share Posted February 17, 2013 You don't even want to see my reserves/under 20s... At this point I'm set for a while now and the only potential purchases I'm thinking are De Sciglio from Milan to replace Isla towards the end of his contract and maybe this Brazilian/Spanish AMC at Espanyol with great looking potential and the amazing in-game name of "Ninja" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stgahoy Posted February 18, 2013 Author Share Posted February 18, 2013 Can u post a screenie of Rugani ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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juventinu Posted March 1, 2013 Share Posted March 1, 2013 Very nice work! I signed Verratti last night in January for £17.5m, but now I have Vidal and Marrone for the BWM role, and Marchisio, Pogba and Verratti for the DLP role, so not sure what to do there. Going to move Pirlo on ASAP.Also signed Jose Enrique for £8m who was transfer listed at Liverpool, and sold Asamoah for £10m to PSG. Giovinco has been absolutely outstanding for me, El Shaarawy started very well but his form has dipped. Isco is very tempting but currently have Wellington Nem as backup for Giovinco. Asamoah 10 mil??? that's the worst deal ever m8. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I sold him for 32m to Arsenal, but this is 2017 when he had a year left to run on his contract and was demanding 135k a week Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 around how much do you guys think it's enough to bid for Asamoah when it comes to deciding the co-ownership? I'm trying to buy him before that date but they want 20+ mil for him and I'm not willing to pay them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phoenixemperor Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Safest bet is usually 50% plus one - e.g. 16m value, bid 8.25m. It might be well above their offer, but I prefer to be safe about it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Dolphin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Before the patch in my Juve save they only bid around 100k for Asamoah. Probably were in financial trouble. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Safest bet is usually 50% plus one - e.g. 16m value, bid 8.25m. It might be well above their offer, but I prefer to be safe about it. Ye I do too. That's why in the prevoius patch I spent around 20 mil. to bring him. But then again on the previos patch I was not planing a long term save and was not worried by the financial situation. Anyways will keep posted when there is a deal done! Before the patch in my Juve save they only bid around 100k for Asamoah. Probably were in financial trouble. Lol, 100k is a steal! Good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffrey Dolphin Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 Yeah they must have been doing badly because the exact same thing happened with Isla too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nampuk Posted March 2, 2013 Share Posted March 2, 2013 I'm intending to put a really small bid for him (Isla) when time comes because I have Gino Peruzzi (sp?) coming in the summer and he, if not as versatile as Isla, is more prespective than him. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Babak G Posted March 3, 2013 Share Posted March 3, 2013 Has anyone tried Vidal or Marchisio as B2B midfielders? And on top of that I've noticed most people here have tried a CM (Auto) and CM (a) as combo but anyone tried 2 box to box midfielders in front of Pirlo? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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