R.P. McMurphy Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Just wanted to check. Neuchâtel Xamax is not going to exist in game after data update, right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Correct well as far as I know thats correct anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Why? Have I missed something? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hmmmmmmmm. Well they will still exist as a club (they have been excluded from the top flight of Swiss football for financial reasons), and demoted to the fifth tier of Swiss football. But if you're taking a top-flight team out of the equation - who are you going to replace them with? You can't have a team missing, but at the same time you can't just promote a club for no good reason. I would hazard a guess that things might stay as they are until FM13. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbobBRFC Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Hmmmmmmmm. Well they will still exist as a club (they have been excluded from the top flight of Swiss football for financial reasons), and demoted to the fifth tier of Swiss football.But if you're taking a top-flight team out of the equation - who are you going to replace them with? You can't have a team missing, but at the same time you can't just promote a club for no good reason. I would hazard a guess that things might stay as they are until FM13. Yeah thats a good point, I thought they had just been striaght booted out the league, suppose demoted to 5th tier is as bad. I think you'll be correct with things staying as they are though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 You can't have a team missing, but at the same time you can't just promote a club for no good reason. Depends on when it actually happened. I'm pretty sure in previous version of FM data updates have started a league with a team missing, I think Russia or Ukraine was one where a team stopped existing in FM11 or FM10, in the first season and an extra team promoted for the start of the second season to bring the number of clubs up to the correct number. It's caused a few problems with starting new games with the original database after the release of the new database and getting the error that number of teams in League X was wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Depends on when it actually happened. I'm pretty sure in previous version of FM data updates have started a league with a team missing, I think Russia or Ukraine was one where a team stopped existing in FM11 or FM10, in the first season and an extra team promoted for the start of the second season to bring the number of clubs up to the correct number. It's caused a few problems with starting new games with the original database after the release of the new database and getting the error that number of teams in League X was wrong. They were removed from the league half-way through the season, at the winter break. So whereas the first half of the season had 10 teams competing - the next half of the season is only going to have 9. Complex! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think there should be only 9 teams first season and after that 10. It is not that hard to code. Of course you need to start new game. So Neuchâtel Xamax is not fixed before FM13 because SI wants make all fixes savegame compatible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AcidBurn Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 That's not the reason because the update includes transfers and alters players attributes which are also not save game compatible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I think there should be only 9 teams first season and after that 10.It is not that hard to code. Of course you need to start new game. So Neuchâtel Xamax is not fixed before FM13 because SI wants make all fixes savegame compatible? I think it is very hard to code the leagues to change the existing structures and have it automatically change the number of teams judging by previous posts from SI when people kept asking about the Australian league a few years back. How do you know it's not hard to code btw? Or was you just making an unfounded sweeping statement? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 I know because have some coding experience. Leagues structure changes can bee coded in. SI have done it before why would it be too hard this time? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I know because have some coding experience. Leagues structure changes can bee coded in.SI have done it before why would it be too hard this time? When have they changed the number of teams in a league? I've never know them do it. I've seem them post before saying it's really difficult as league structures are hardcoded into the game. As you've experience in coding yourself, you'll understand that it's not easy then to change something that's hardcoded, no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronaldo123 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 What happened to them then I thought they had a sugardaddy chairman. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 What happened to them then I thought they had a sugardaddy chairman. Falysfying bank documents and not paying the correct wages, national insurance etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
milnerpoint Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 I cant remember a single case of SI changing the number of teams in a league for a season. I'm with Cleon its not going to be a simple task to change, especially when they cannot easily change the number of games in a league season, never mind the number of teams in that league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 When have they changed the number of teams in a league? I've never know them do it. I've seem them post before saying it's really difficult as league structures are hardcoded into the game.As you've experience in coding yourself, you'll understand that it's not easy then to change something that's hardcoded, no? Finnish league system in FM11. I'm not saying that it is easy thing to code. But it is not too hard either. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 What happened with the Russian League with Zhemchuzhina Sochi going out of business last year? Edit: Or when HFC Haarlem went out of business? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted February 23, 2012 Author Share Posted February 23, 2012 Here is some info about Neuchâtel Xamax case. http://fourfourtwo.com/news/restofeurope/93750/default.aspx http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/soccer/wires/01/26/2080.ap.soc.xamax.bankruptcy.2nd.ld.writethru.0578/index.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crownejewell Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 What happened with the Russian League with Zhemchuzhina Sochi going out of business last year?Edit: Or when HFC Haarlem went out of business? HFC Haarlem was still there after the last 2011 patch and dissapeared in the FM 2012 version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nottingham Forest Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Ilkeston Town? Got kicked out of the BSN iirc, or BSS and they didn't replace them for a full season. I can't remember whether that was when the game first came out or after a patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katarian Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 HFC Haarlem was still there after the last 2011 patch and dissapeared in the FM 2012 version As they went out of business in late January, then I guess that Neuchâtel Xamax will be treated the same. Really depends on how close it happened to this years data lock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bolulu Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Wow! I feel pretty bad about the depressing situation @ Nottm Forest, but count my blessings compared to this Neuchatel X fiasco. Good post btw Mc Murphy! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nyandoro Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 They did something back a few years ago with Romanian championship. It was the year before Romania went to 18 teams instead of 16. I remember that the game was according to real life championship changes, meaning the first season you got to play with the old structure (16 teams) and the next season there would be 18 teams. I think I wasn't dreaming. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Visitor13 Posted February 23, 2012 Share Posted February 23, 2012 Excelsior Mouscron was removed in patch 10.3 or 10.2 and the Belgian league had to make do with 15 teams instead of 16. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.P. McMurphy Posted March 2, 2012 Author Share Posted March 2, 2012 IRL all Neuchâtel Xamax players are free agents now or they are playing in new club. So if SI keeps Neuchâtel Xamax in game.. I'm just wondering what will their squad look like? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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