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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Have you tried the Guatemalean embassy? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I've been there it's some house on a street in Fulham and yes I've tried, they don't know anything, there again Carmen shows up as British on passports because of her visa.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A-Team:

yeah congrats to the people of London for ehhhh.........not all going and committing suicide or something? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

No, for stiff upper lip, old chap. Cheerio!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A-Team:

yeah congrats to the people of London for ehhhh.........not all going and committing suicide or something? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

pipe down jacques?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Secret_squirrel:

Thanks for the interest in Carmen.

I have still not heard from her.

I have been phoning EVERY single hospital in London for the last 12 hours.

There is still no reply on her mobile or on the emergency number, although I got told that the Emergency Services do not believe that a foreign national from Guatemala died.

I have no relatives in London, although my aunty is on her way down there from newcastle, my other aunty is in Canada.

I can only assume her mobile has run out of credit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

By "no reply" do you mean you can't get through or it just rings and rings?

Also, the reception is still on and off around here anyway

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by exchampionsfan:

A warning posted on the gamefaqs messageboard on Tuesday

You need to have an account to get on but this is what somebody said:

From: blue_spiritUK | Posted: 7/5/2005 7:33:06 PM | Message Detail

I know............ i'm just warning peopl to be extra careful on Thursday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, thank God the online gaming community were warned.

Many geeks may have been saved thanks to this guy icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Don Baker:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by exchampionsfan:

A warning posted on the gamefaqs messageboard on Tuesday

You need to have an account to get on but this is what somebody said:

From: blue_spiritUK | Posted: 7/5/2005 7:33:06 PM | Message Detail

I know............ i'm just warning peopl to be extra careful on Thursday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, thank God the online gaming community were warned.

Many geeks may have been saved thanks to this guy icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Wow icon_eek.gif, who would have to think that MI5 are on to that..........

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Don Baker:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by exchampionsfan:

A warning posted on the gamefaqs messageboard on Tuesday

You need to have an account to get on but this is what somebody said:

From: blue_spiritUK | Posted: 7/5/2005 7:33:06 PM | Message Detail

I know............ i'm just warning peopl to be extra careful on Thursday. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well, thank God the online gaming community were warned.

Many geeks may have been saved thanks to this guy icon14.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I just registered an account for the sake of reading what he had to say and the responses but it still comes up with I'm not at a high enough 'level'?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by gregory_isaacs:

why is a terrorist attack needed to make people of a particular country 'extrordinary' or 'determined'

obviously its a bit wrong to mention that in this thread but its media ******** </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Because calling the people of London extraordinairy just for going to work on a regular day doesn't quite have the same effect

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by thang phong:

god bless you all. now britian might be more serious about the war. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

are you a Fox News anchorman by ANY chance?

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by A-Team:

yeah congrats to the people of London for ehhhh.........not all going and committing suicide or something? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

how about all those londoners that calmly evacuated the trains, thoose that didnt panic when leaving stations, those hospital workers who rushed out of the BMA building and nearby hospital immediatly to give first aid or the emergency services who managed to keep a grip on everything to ensure all the procedures went smoothly.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Bert Preast:

I love the way Galloway harps on against Guantanamo. Would he like us to set 'em all free? I'm good with that - it means our soldiers can stop wasting time trying to take prisoners and just kill the enemy. Another fine victory for the socialists \o/ </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

absolutely. in fact, let's just indiscriminately blow the hell out of everyone we don't like the look of, then we'll be safe \o/

while most of the politicians are echoing Bush's war on terror ********, "it's us against them and we will win", George Galloway is asking us to examine the causes of terrorism and why these people want to kill us.

as for your moronic comment that "he has to echo the immams or he's out", he's already stated that he won't be running again in that constituency.

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I have to say I never really believed the "stiff upper lip" saying, but having read several pages of this thread and watching you poms describe some fairly awful events with what can only be called dry humour (with a few exceptions), I'm starting to give it credence. I remember the 9/11 thread was full of over the top hyperbole from various users about the end of the world etc...

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Secret_squirrel:

Thanks for the interest in Carmen.

I have still not heard from her.

I have been phoning EVERY single hospital in London for the last 12 hours.

There is still no reply on her mobile or on the emergency number, although I got told that the Emergency Services do not believe that a foreign national from Guatemala died.

I have no relatives in London, although my aunty is on her way down there from newcastle, my other aunty is in Canada.

I can only assume her mobile has run out of credit? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Nick, I was about to post a major attention seeking post icon_wink.gif

Perhaps her mobile is out of credit or the network is still buggered or whatever, and maybe she had to sleep over at one of the designated spots. Do keep us posted on Carmen, mate!

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Xerxes T Billy:

I live just around the corner from Kings Cross. I was passing Kings Cross station this morning at 9AM. I used to take the 205 or 30 bus to work every morning until a year ago. Do these coincidences put anything into prospective ?

The reality of these events is that people die and are injured. Having some tenious connection yourself or as an individual to London shouldn't make the slightest difference to your perception of the situation. Why do people feel they need this connection to feel empathy for those involved ?

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Hey, my first thought when I heard about this was "I hope Mike's alright".

Not being helped with the news from King's Cross, my favourite tube station icon_frown.gif

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yeah Lepage.... really scary.. come to think of it, I must have been on or in or over or under or through King's Cross like 75 times now.. and every morning to SI when I worked there I had the option to take the train headed to Aldgate icon_redface.gif

I was instantly thinking up as many people that I can remember thinking wherabouts they live, figured that most don't really use King's Cross.. and saw Mike's post already - so that was a relief

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my cousin is missing. nobody has heard from her.

just got off the phone with my aunt, and nobody knows what the frack is going on. naturally she's panicked as hell.

i didn't even know she was back in london until my mother rung and asked if i'd heard about it all... icon_frown.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

my cousin is missing. nobody has heard from her.

just got off the phone with my aunt, and nobody knows what the frack is going on. naturally she's panicked as hell.

i didn't even know she was back in london until my mother rung and asked if i'd heard about it all... icon_frown.gif </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Don't worry I'm sure it will turn out fine icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Darth Tyrannus:

The people who did this aren't humans, they're scvm. Its so sad. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Given the possibility that suicide bombers were used, there are two ways you can read that. Sorry.

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By Galloway's logic about "us" p*ssing off muslims to the extent that they start blowing up innocent people, I suppose it's perfectly understandable/acceptable for "us" to avenge this attack ourselves.

And the beat goes on...

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Reddiablo:

yeah Lepage.... really scary.. come to think of it, I must have been on or in or over or under or through King's Cross like 75 times now.. and every morning to SI when I worked there I had the option to take the train headed to Aldgate icon_redface.gif

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Yep, been on the line that has been hit quite a few times before myself.

I somehow remember saying to Kathleen when she was coming to London in April to stay clear of the tube as much as possible, since I always expected this to happen.

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And to think off it, London has been very lucky that this was such a low scale attack.

If they really wanted to kill a lot of people, they could have, seeing how many people are on public transport during rush hour.

Also surprises me to read stories about people who were on the tube trains that were hit, makes you wonder if the bombs weren't really low profile in the end.

Doesn't seem like the best orchestrated thing

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I think, to a certain extent, he has a point. The treatment of Middle Eastern countries that the West will sanction for economic gain alone is horrifying. It's understandable, if not right, that there are, as a result, a large number of very bitter people from those countries who feel driven to seek revenge.

Without taking any particular moral standpoint, surely anyone can understand where this behaviour has come from? It doesn't take particularly heightened powers of empathy to see how a lot of Arabs might feel abused and vengeful.

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So, if I were to feel abused and vengeful that so many, mainly Arab, immigrants came over to the Netherlands and abused our social security (for economic gain alone I might add), I would have a point in killing innocent people as well?

Didn't think it'd be that easy.

[/Devil's advocate]

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Raptor:

So, if I were to feel abused and vengeful that so many, mainly Arab, immigrants came over to the Netherlands and abused our social security (for economic gain alone I might add), I would have a point in killing innocent people as well?

Didn't think it'd be that easy.

[/Devil's advocate] </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

if you did, i'm sure ceefax the cat would be happy to represent you in court icon14.gif

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ceefax the cat:

Certainly, I'd just argue that the pain and anguish you suffered at the thought of your tax money being wasted was easily equal to that of being bombed and impoverished to suit the economic needs of a more powerful country.

Oh wait. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It doesn't matter does it? It's all about people claiming they have a valid excuse to go on an indiscriminate killing spree.

The point I was trying to put across is that we should stop to try and come up with reasons why people do the things they do, and just accept some are pure evil, and need to be exterminated. At all cost.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by miller_merry:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Forest_Rule:

I was going to start a new thread, but I guess it might fit into this one....the Market Square in Nottingham has all been taped off due to a bomb scare, there is quite a lot of police and an ambulance

Im not sure if a bomb has gone off or anything though </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

More than likely just a precaution with whats happened today, don't think they are taking any risks with any of it. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

just a precautinary measure probably, Dundee city centre was closed down and as late as 11pm last night everyone that was boarding a train at Dundee train station was being searched.....but then we are close to Gleneagles

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I imagine there'll be many more precautionary station closings in the coming weeks. It only takes one person to not be 100% comfortable with that weird plastic bag flying around.

Better safe than sorry, of course, and possible paranoia will soon turn into complacency again, by which time the next attack will wake everyone up again.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Scatter:

have the mobile networks started operating again? and if not, any idea on when? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Mine was receiving calls yesterday afternoon. That was on O2

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Raptor:

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by ceefax the cat:

Certainly, I'd just argue that the pain and anguish you suffered at the thought of your tax money being wasted was easily equal to that of being bombed and impoverished to suit the economic needs of a more powerful country.

Oh wait. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

a) It doesn't matter does it? It's all about people claiming they have a valid excuse to go on an indiscriminate killing spree.

b) The point I was trying to put across is that we should stop to try and come up with reasons why people do the things they do, and just accept some are pure evil, and need to be exterminated. At all cost. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

a) It does matter. The two situations can't be compared. One is at best mildly irritating, the other might have involved someone's family getting blown up. It doesn't take a genius to see that if someone believes that their family and friends have been blown up for someone else's economic gain, they might think it acceptable to blow some people up in revenge. It's NOT RIGHT, but it's understandable. Going on a killing spree because you think your tax money is being wasted is not. Very obviously.

b) They were not born evil. Their experiences and the ideas, right or not, that were impressed upon them, made them capable of evil behaviour. And it would be wrong to ignore where those factors came from, if we have a genuine interest in preventing it from happening in the future, rather than looking no further than a vengeful response of our own next time it does happen.

Christ.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Henry_14:

how about all those londoners that calmly evacuated the trains, thoose that didnt panic when leaving stations, those hospital workers who rushed out of the BMA building and nearby hospital immediatly to give first aid or the emergency services who managed to keep a grip on everything to ensure all the procedures went smoothly. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well said

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