FungusMungus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Hindsight obviously a useful thing, but we probably should have signed Richards when we were linked with him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Administrators Philip Rolfe Posted August 22, 2007 Author Administrators Share Posted August 22, 2007 AS reckons we've signed Belletti for €5.5m. Wiki has him at Chelsea as well. Link Erm, intitial reactions are disappointed, but I really can't remember too much about Belletti that stands out other than he's not very good defensively. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 He the one that scored the own goal against us? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiverpoolSimplyTheBest Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 He's the one who scored Barca's winner against the Gooners in the 2006 Champions League Final. Don't rate him defensively though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FungusMungus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Scored some poxy Champions League goal iirc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Not a patch on Alves, very disappointing for you lot if true. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Marca reckons that it is €5m initially, then another €1m for 3 seasons. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asmodeus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Originally posted by Rcjuk:Chim Chiminey Chim Chimney Chim Chim Cheroo Nayim from 50, belletti from 2. That's the ****ing ****-headed ****er. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FungusMungus Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 And yeah, massively ****ed off if he's supposed to be our number 1 right back. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Beletti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Belletti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gordon Comstock Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 ul boys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If true, that is beyond abject. Effing Germans, now this, bloody awful night (Wembley was great, though). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jaybob Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 How definite is this Belletti transfer? Looked on Sky Sports website, 365, SSN, wiki and official Chelsea site and none of them mention it. AS have been known to be wrong... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazy_T Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 I'm sure it was on wiki before? Belletti to Chelsea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Originally posted by jaybob:How definite is this Belletti transfer? Looked on Sky Sports website, 365, SSN, wiki and official Chelsea site and none of them mention it. AS have been known to be wrong... I certainly blimmin' hope they are. If we get £21m from Robben (good riddance tbh), then refusing to spend four or five million extra on a player of Alves' phenomenal quality is pathetic, in view of how happily we've splashed on much lesser players. Ferreira's better than Belletti, for Chrissakes! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 how rubbish. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 The Times reckon we're going for Alves No mention of Belletti here. Fingers crossed and all that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Originally posted by FungusMungus:Hindsight obviously a useful thing, but we probably should have signed Richards when we were linked with him Didn't Jose say he'd rather play your 50 year old coach than pay the price for Richards? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jvovk22 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Belletti instead of Alves is juch a joke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Originally posted by shanyi:The Times reckon we're going for Alves No mention of Belletti here. Fingers crossed and all that. bbc link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Seville being such mugs. He wants to leave, 24mil is **** loads for a fullback ffs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J4m1e Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Real Madrid will end up paying it so why not ask for it? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Real won't pay it. All they've offered Seville so far is swap deals and given that they've just spend more than that on Robben I doubt they'll be paying it for Alves too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridgekings Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Beletti deal agreed, from the official site. Link Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poyplemonkeys Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez has launched a withering attack on the Premier League after Gabriel Heinze's bid to force through a move to Anfield failed.The Argentina defender had gone to a Premier League panel claiming Manchester United had written a letter allowing him to leave if another club offered �6.8million. But the panel have dismissed Heinze's case and backed United, who maintained they made it clear to the 29-year-old both orally and in writing that he would not be permitted to join one of their title rivals. It now appears that if Heinze is intent on leaving the club he will have to move abroad, and there have been reports in Spain that a deal has already been agreed between United and Real Madrid for the defender. But Benitez is furious that Liverpool appear to have missed out on Heinze, though he could yet appeal against the arbitration panel's verdict. Benitez told the Liverpool Echo: "I would like to ask the Premier League a number of questions. "How can a player with a signed agreement be treated like this? "He has a document which is clear, but the Premier League prefers to believe the word of someone else who made a mistake. "I know there were accusations made against Liverpool in the hearing which were unbelievable. How can this be allowed? "Then I would like to ask the Premier League why is it that Liverpool always plays the most fixtures away from home in an early kick-off, following an international break? We had more than the top clubs last season and we have four already to prepare for this season." He then - somewhat bizarrely given the story dominated the news agenda for most of the close-season - claims it was "so easy" for United to sign Tevez. Benitez added: "Then I want to ask the Premier League why it was so difficult for Liverpool to sign Javier Mascherano, when we had to wait a long time for the paperwork, but it was so easy for Carlos Tevez to join Manchester United? "It's going to be very difficult for us to win the Premier League because the other teams are so strong, but I want our supporters to know that despite the disadvantages we have, we will fight all the way. "We will fight to cope with our more difficult kick-off times and all the other decisions which are going against us." Sounds like Jose but with more bullcrap. Bolded bit particularly hilarious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
goon Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 hah yeah the Tevez deal basically done overnight. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick OGS20 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 actually took longer for us to sort the Tevez deal. Rafa so cluelessly irate :*) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Not that anyone should get involved in Chelsea and Man Utd people having a go at Liverpool : but doesn't he mean the actual findings took longer for Liverpool than Man Utd. Sure Man Utd had to wait ages for that Premier League meeting, but once the meeting happened they gave the ruling that very day didn't they? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Liverpool had to get special permission from Fifa for Mascherano didn't they because of the no 3 clubs in a year rule? So what is he going on about Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Because A unique situation for Mascherano which ceased to be unique when it came to Tevez, because of the Mascherano deal? Either way, he's bitching like a tiny tiny girl. Have a thread for it if it was Arsene. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottager Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 something I was wondering about before that isn't relevant: does your contract have to be up for you to retire? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratinho Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 That first because clearly shouldn't be there. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Originally posted by Cottager:something I was wondering about before that isn't relevant: does your contract have to be up for you to retire? Cantona just retired out of the blue didn't he? He wasn't out of contract or anything I don't think Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonTheGTFCFan Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Don't think so Cottager. Certainly Collymore was not out of contract at that spanish club when he quit. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cottager Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 so...clearly there's a way to just leave a team and join another for free quite easily there, due to coming out of retirement? what haven't I thought of? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Herman Bloom Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Well I would imagine the club would agree to cancel the contract on the written agreement from the player that the reasoning behind it is that he has retired, and he will not join another club. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
merry_miller Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Don't think they can do that as club where he retires hold his registration or something until contract is over - think thats what stopped Collymore coming out of retirement Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SarfLondonSpur Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Originally posted by Cottager:so...clearly there's a way to just leave a team and join another for free quite easily there, due to coming out of retirement? what haven't I thought of? Kinda. Ali Bernabia did it when he was at Citeh, he retired, then joined some Arab club. However, when Collymore was at Oviedo, he retired and tried signing for some non-league club but Oviedo claimed to still hold his registration, and wanted money for it. Which the non-league club told them to **** off basically Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I guess because the club still holds your registration, and won't release it to another club for free. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Cartman Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I'm sure there was a player playing for a non league team who couldn't play for the club if they were promoted as some football league side held his registration after he told them he was retiring, can't remember who it was though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shanyi Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Signing Belletti, ffs. He's a Middlesbrough standard player at best, I've no idea how he survived so long at Barca. He's certainly not a Jose-type player as, for his decent attacking merit he literally cannot defend at all. £27m is rather overboard for Daniel Alves, but it's only £3m over what we're supposedly receiving for Robben so it's not much of an outlay for a truly spectacular player. I think I know who I'll be selling first if I ever buy FM again. This has actually made our right back position even weaker, phenomenally, as he's weaker than Ferreira (who's not good at all to begin with), Johnson won't get the chance to develop and build confidence and there'll be no room for Diarra back there, who wasn't ideal but for a long time was the best we had avaliable. Maybe Belletti will surprise me like Geovanni is doing at Man City, but I won't be holding my breath. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
masteR+_+ Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Belletti Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McMaster#28 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 I don't know why Lahm is not mentioned I think's he's ace. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingcav Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 balletti. jesus christ. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slightly Damp Shrew Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Belletti?! The Brazillian Glenn Johnson. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Hotspur Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 belletti's a very bad player I think, so why chelsea are getting him I have no idea .. hes more a arsenal type player Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
orion318 Posted August 23, 2007 Share Posted August 23, 2007 Belleti done and dusted apparently I predict Essien at right back by next month and new guy in january to cover for the ANC Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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