Pipson Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 Based from this thread: http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/375409-Work-in-progress-Pipson-s-4231-Triangle-Tactic-Dagenham-and-Red.-playing-like-Barca There is 2 versions of this tactic: Counter and balanced - nothing is different apart from that setting alone - Attacking also works but very easy to counter but more goals! Counter should be your starting tactic - only switch to standard if I feel I am a stronger team or not creating enough. Attacking when desperately I need of a goal. - Only other changes I have every made in game is focus on the flanks (if team has 1 DM or 2 DM or no Fullbacks) and play it narrow, if you feel you team is too wide is loosing passes because of short passing. There was no cheating involved and my save with spurs was recorded on stream: http://www.twitch.tv/pipsontv/ - click videos. We almost did the quadruple but lost to Man utd 1-2 in the fa cup final - won league, league cup and Europa. 1st few results: When I thought the tactic was ready and started with Spurs - we went on a run of 25 games unbeaten. We only started dropping points and drawing/loosing because of the squad being tired and lack of players as I bought no one. The league Best defence and best attack, we did not loose a single game at home and only conceded 9 goals in 14 games! NO TRANSFERS: Tactic download = http://www.mediafire.com/download/fqtah5a1h54i73d/twitch.tv_pipsontv.zip Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul7875 Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 can you uploaded without unzip please my hand held device dosnt allow unzip material Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gareth Winter Posted April 27, 2014 Share Posted April 27, 2014 May i suggest that the reason your players were getting tired is because you were playing friendlies mid season as well? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted April 27, 2014 Author Share Posted April 27, 2014 May i suggest that the reason your players were getting tired is because you were playing friendlies mid season as well? my players got tired end of the season. Those friendlies were used to increase tactic familiarity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 Magnificently, amazing, greatest, most stable tactics in the FM 2014. Thanks fo sharing. (translate.google) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacky33 Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 which tactic you use ? the standard or the other? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Out Posted April 28, 2014 Share Posted April 28, 2014 counter and follow the instructions in the OP (sorry for my english) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted April 28, 2014 Author Share Posted April 28, 2014 Depends on your team - but you want to start with counter and switch to standard if you feel your team is better (meaning you gamble more) or your not creating enough (the team your playing against may be very defensive) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 can anyone post their results? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmquist Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Amazing tactic. I have tried it for half a season with Newcastle (no signings) and have managed to beat Man C away with 5-0, Arsenal away 2-1, Man U home with 3-0, Liverpool home with 3-1 and Sunderland home with 9-0! Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 can't unzip the files. Can someone reupload please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 Amazing tactic. I have tried it for half a season with Newcastle (no signings) and have managed to beat Man C away with 5-0, Arsenal away 2-1, Man U home with 3-0, Liverpool home with 3-1 and Sunderland home with 9-0!Cheers! Which version are you using? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted April 29, 2014 Author Share Posted April 29, 2014 can't unzip the files. Can someone reupload please Install WinRAR - should be no problem. Just google winrar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marckn Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 hey mate I will test it in Arsenal return when I have played any games Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.T Posted April 29, 2014 Share Posted April 29, 2014 Install WinRAR - should be no problem. Just google winrar i already have the software which usually unzips files. Im not sure if this is winrar or not? I can't remember what its called. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 i already have the software which usually unzips files. Im not sure if this is winrar or not? I can't remember what its called. Then you should have no problems. Anyone else tried the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
havanaclue Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Can I have a picture of the formation please - I like to see the player roles within a formation Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RicardoW Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Then you should have no problems.Anyone else tried the tactic? I tried it with Roda JC, Red Bull Salzburg and Barcelona, all in FMC. Found out that with Red Bull and Barcelona, results aren't as good as with other tactics. With Roda however, my team performed way better. It seems a tactic for the smaller teams. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneRomney Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 Tried it with Everton, season 2018/2019. Short background: Started a journeyman save where I always used Steaton's (the one tweaked by Marcelo) and had very good results with all teams. 3rd season at Everton and the AI "finds out how to beat your tactic" (LOL) thing happens, I decided to try this one out since this closely resembles what type of players I have etc. Results have been less than good, but not terribad. I beat Arsenal 1-0 at home, drew 1-1 at Reading, hammered Anderlecht in the CL 4-1, lost 4-2 to Swansea in the League Cup away, lost 1-0 to City away, beat Fulham at home 2-0, lost to Bayern M away 0-1 so far. The familiarity is at ~80%, it could be related to that I guess. It's more worrying that we seem to create very few chances [compared to Steaton's] and possession is barely above 50%, which I find low considering this tactic is inspired by Barcelona. Will try it some more tho and see if it settles. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted May 1, 2014 Author Share Posted May 1, 2014 okay guys I am working on an update - if you guys can give as much input and etc - where its all wrong, where it is right! and etc! Update should be up soon - only one file this time. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
WayneRomney Posted May 1, 2014 Share Posted May 1, 2014 okay guys I am working on an update - if you guys can give as much input and etc - where its all wrong, where it is right! and etc! Update should be up soon - only one file this time. It's certainly right defensively, I don't concede many goals even tho my defense is not world class. Imo it's lacking something attacking wise. Sometimes I'll struggle to score goals, even against inferior opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
serg555 Posted May 2, 2014 Share Posted May 2, 2014 team traning? match preparation? OI? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmquist Posted May 3, 2014 Share Posted May 3, 2014 Ok! I use this tactic as explained in the first post. I start with counter but change to standard in half time if drawing or losing (happens rarely). I did one small change, both my cm are dlp support. So far i have been succesfull with Newcastle, Chelsea and QPR. Btw i play FMC and don´t care about training, oi and stuff. This has to be the best plug and play tactic so far. Cheers! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatlad86 Posted May 4, 2014 Share Posted May 4, 2014 its not bad but my striker never seems to score with this tactic . and i do prefer my strikers to get most of the goals lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Atkins Posted May 5, 2014 Share Posted May 5, 2014 I have started several 1st seasons with Spurs using all the best rated tactic sets out..... I always set up well best staff etc, know all about team talks etc, my only vice is I sell a lot of my squad and buy replacements so team cohesion does cause a few issues..... I do well but always hit a wall at some stage during the season.... Thought id give this a go..... Never tried starting with a counter attacking tactic... I'm smashing everyone and was even when the tactic wasn't fluid! Just beat Chelsea 4-0 and Liverpool 5-1.... so solid. I'm converted, goals from corners and free kicks quite regular as well. now going to teach my full backs the long throw... I will be following your threads closely in the future, Thanks for your effort! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosh1975 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 As tactics go this a great one, other than a few changes to set pieces (personal choice to how I like to defend & attack) it's the most reliable, generally use counter unless struggling to make an impact then use standard (not to often) my Leeds team is 12 points clear after 28 games with a +39 goal difference, in 1st season in championship. I did get off to a shaky start until tactic became more embedded losing 2 V 0 to York in league cup a little embarrassing but did rest most of squad so other than the early days blip this tactic is great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosh1975 Posted May 11, 2014 Share Posted May 11, 2014 Final position 1st with 100 points & plus 60 goals - no money spent on transfers two freebies & 2 loans made the difference Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alseca Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Decided to try out your tactic with Pennington, barely had any signings and started to struggle mid season with Steatons tactic! Lets see where it takes us, first game 4-3, lucky to slip away with the win! Though I did get a red card when the score was 1-2 which should be worth a mention.. Creates a ton of opportunities compared to steaton Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CCman Posted May 12, 2014 Share Posted May 12, 2014 Well this tactic has been the only truly steady tactic i have used in the latest patch. When i play with my Benfica side i have found that i do better with the standard tactic as they usually are able to outclass most teams in the Portuguese league but when i head to Europe i might switch to the Counter version depending on the opponent. Now in my journeyman save where i am currently VVV in the Dutch league i only use the Counter tactic and my team is punching above its class given the players i have. You will not win every game but its stable as can be in this wacky patch. One thing i have noticed with my VVV team is that speed does matter. I had an ageing Rafael Van Der Vaart on the wing and he was doing absolutely nothing so i swapped a lesser player to the wings and played him as the forward or AMC and it started playing much better. Also i had a pretty slow Dman with great mental and tackling stats but slow as a glacier so again i swapped for a less gifted player with decent pace and again better results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted June 5, 2014 Author Share Posted June 5, 2014 So i dont need to post an update then? i thought i was the only one having success :O but if people follow my instructions than it should work wonders Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pantelas Posted June 7, 2014 Share Posted June 7, 2014 Pipson, thanks for a solid tactic, tried it with Spurs and won the league in first season. Just a quick question that was left unanswered, what OI, training and match preparation settings do you use? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 match preparation = i change it all the time - i take ass m. advise along with the teams current form and which team but i vary from attack movement, def position, set pieces and tactics when i need to improve skill of tactic. Training i do my own, sometimes based on the players attributes i want to play or the role. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted June 8, 2014 Author Share Posted June 8, 2014 btw im online right now if anyone is interested on twitch http://www.twitch.tv/pipsontv Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
emphyrio Posted June 27, 2014 Share Posted June 27, 2014 Does anyone still use this tactic? I'm seriously overachieving in the French 2nd division with Nimes using the counter version. (I play FMC so sometimes I change tactic in-game, but this is the base I've been using with a very poor side). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecromeniac Posted June 28, 2014 Share Posted June 28, 2014 just notice this tac I will try if it works with my Man utd team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mecromeniac Posted June 29, 2014 Share Posted June 29, 2014 Well I just played 5 games including friendly's and I havn't conserved a goal yet Works really well and it is really more stabil than Steaton's I will report back later on I use the Counter vers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burtburt Posted July 3, 2014 Share Posted July 3, 2014 Going to give this a go since so many people seem to have had success with it. Just one question to you successful people, or the creator of the tactic, what about OIs? This question is directed to the creator of the thread. I read your other thread about how you worked on this tactic and in that thread you were talking a bout a b2b midfielder but this tactic has two DLPs with different roles. Did you find that to work better than with a b2b? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burwood Posted July 7, 2014 Share Posted July 7, 2014 Tried this tactic on my game - had great success with it, thanks! I am West Brom in my 3rd season, having been around the middle of the table in my first 2 seasons. I started off the 3rd season well with my own tactic, winning 7 of my first 8 games, but then I had two away games at Liverpool and Man City. I lost both, and then my team went into free fall and I didn't win any of my next 13 games after (I persevered with my tactic for about 5 or 6 games after those two defeats, but my team seemed to have lost it, and I tried numerous unsuccessful tweaks). I was playing an away game at Newcastle (who were 5th), and I didn't expect to get anything out of it but I tried the counter tactic. I was 2-0 down at half time so I changed to the standard, and managed to win 4-2! Finished the season in 7th spot, and have started the new season well too (won 3, drawn 1, lost 1 of my opening 5 games). The counter tactic seems to really restrict the opposition scoring, but I don't seem to get many chances myself playing that, so I prefer the standard personally. Thank you so much for uploading this tactic though, I had a previous save before the latest patch and was having no trouble (got Coventry promoted to the premier in 3 seasons, then won the premiership in my 4th season in the division), but the new patch really had me struggling (after my 15 game unsuccessful spell, I stopped playing for about a week because I was so frustrated). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dimi_anathema Posted July 16, 2014 Share Posted July 16, 2014 Has anyone tried the tactic with a different role for the striker ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gggfunk Posted July 17, 2014 Share Posted July 17, 2014 Hi, I tried this tactic with my Leeds Utd and the first results were amazing - my team played very well in defence and created many goal chances as well. I won 3 matches in a row and was really pleased, unfortunately later it all changed. I started to lose and in effect after 46 matches I'm 4th in the Championship (I was 1/2 during the whole season). Now I'm gonna play in play-offs and I'm really afraid I'll lose it... Any ideas how could I beat the crisis? I really want to promote PS. Sorry for my english. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
AV054 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I've been using this tactic in the first season with Basingstoke in Skrill South. Works great for me! Been altering between the two versions depending on the opposition. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgmacedo745 Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 I'm going to test this tactic with S.L.Benfica from Portuguese League. I'll give you my feedback later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RasmusJP Posted July 18, 2014 Share Posted July 18, 2014 Could any one put up a SS of the tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgmacedo745 Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Pipson, has I said here comes my review. Such a perfect tactic you have created! In my save with Benfica I played the first season with my own tactic and I won the League (71 points, 23 W, 2 D, 5 L in 30 fixtures with 77 goals scored and 36 suffered) and went to the round of 16 in the Champions League (smashed against Bayern Munchen). In the second season I tried your tactic and I won again the League (85 points, 28 W, 1 D, 1 L, with 102 scored against 24 suffered), won the League Cup and went to the Champions semis (defeated Man.City and Zenith in groups stage, Valencia in 8's with 6-1 aggregate and Chelsea in quarters by loosing first hand away 4-1 and winning 7-1 home - amazing - I just went home against Man.Utd. just because I lost at home 0-1 and drawed 3-3 at Old Trafford with a missed penalty in the last second). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vache Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 For which patch is it this tactic ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jgmacedo745 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I'm using it for 14.3.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JamesDixon Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I thought this tactic must only work with good teams as my Lens team in Ligue 1 finished second bottom and were relegated, I switched between the two tactics as the original post says, I have no idea how but I got the AS Monaco job the season after being sacked and the tactic is better but I am still conceding a lot of goals (especially from corners) we are currently 6th in the league which in my opinion is still not good enough for a team like Monaco and the players I have at my disposal! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitmoCaliente Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 Great start http://i58.tinypic.com/vn2srn.jpg[/img]"] Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andu1 Posted August 1, 2014 Share Posted August 1, 2014 Fantastic tactic. Congratulations for this one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pipson Posted August 3, 2014 Author Share Posted August 3, 2014 Ritmo which version are you using? i havent been playing fm much as i do not have a working pc atm and my laptop is slow. Happy that alot of you is having success tho Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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