Saints Forever Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 For those of you who played the enjoyable lma manager games, you would know that the matches were 5minutes each half irl time i think.... anyway basically i'd like this to be implimented into fm12 i just feel it would be better than watching key highlight or extended because were missing alot of importnt stuff in the match, were only seen the key situations, whereas if we had the lma way we could see everything that is going on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
makavelli_lp Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 I actually think if done right this could be a reasonable idea Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Forever Posted April 17, 2011 Author Share Posted April 17, 2011 Did you play lma manager's ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aiston Posted April 17, 2011 Share Posted April 17, 2011 Would rather stay as it is, no need for changing it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pob Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I watch the full match so this would be a backwards step for me. Maybe there needs to be a "very extended" highlights setting? I would also prefer the match in FM to be representative of a real 90 minutes, which I believe isn't the case at the moment. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LCFCEaves31 Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I think Football Manager, just need to keep working to improve the match engine and its graphical content, rather than try new ideas. I would like to be able to skip games though and let Assistant manager make the subs during, bit like LMA used to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigdanio Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I play on key highlights, halves take approx 5 mins. To 'not miss' any gameplay but squeeze it into 5 real minutes from 45 the game would have to play at 9 times the speed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ty Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 The best part of LMA Manager, was skipping the games then watching a "Match of the Day" style program with Linekar which reviewed your game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 Gosh, please not. FM is simulating a 90 minutes match and attempts at doing that realistically. If you had matches with 5 minutes in each half then the outcome would have to be grocely unrealistic to have realistic scorelines. That cannot be what we want. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggusD Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I think that the most pressing issue about the match animations is that when put together, the Key animations don't really give a good picture of how you or the opponent team are playing. The animations show an event that is pre-determined and so it is frustrating to see how many times my team lose a header on corners, how easy it is to dribble through a whole team and crush the ball into the net from 40 yards and so on... Basically, Key needs to show the biggest chances and that's it! Key should take max 5 minutes to go through. It should be obvious that Key highlights won't give you a proper picture of the match. However, when you select Extended highlights, you aren't really given a better picture of how your team is playing. The same animations are playing, but with less important highlights being shown rather than actual battle for control of the match! An example of what I want to see more of (in Extended) is "they have a corner, corner is hit, your defender heads away - CUT" or "your midfielder hits a through ball to your forward, defender tackles wins the ball and hacks it away - CUT". In other words, I want to see that -sometimes- the attacking team fails at what they are doing and that's it. As it is now, if one team has the ball and hits a pass that the other team picks up to go on a counter attack, I know that it was a pre-determined counter-attack, not a failed attack that resulted in a counter-attack! The difference is perhaps only nuance to begin with, but when you have played a couple of hundred matches you realize that if an animation starts with you having the ball and then lose it and get a ccc against you it is only another variation to the AI creating chances, and have nothing to do with your attacking play! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest PW Posted April 18, 2011 Share Posted April 18, 2011 I have changed my viewing highlights to 'key' and replays to 'goals'..................my games were taking far to long otherwise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjamanji Posted April 20, 2011 Share Posted April 20, 2011 If anyone is interested I have a petition going to bring back LMA here: http://www.petitiononline.com/LMA/petition.html Sigs are growing fast, lets really push this forwards now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevo_99 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 If anyone is interested I have a petition going to bring back LMA here: http://www.petitiononline.com/LMA/petition.htmlSigs are growing fast, lets really push this forwards now I also played LMA manager and bought pretty much every copy until it finished. It was a really enjoyable game but I can safely say it will never come back. its been far too long now. Esepcially in this day in age when most people own laptop computers it will always be overshadowed by Football Manager in my opinion. Football Manager is also more detailed and a tougher challenge than LMA in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampler Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 LMA was and is a crap game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 5 minutes each half?!?!? games "take too long"?!?!? This isn't the arcade... the ONLY way to truly play FM is to watch the full 90. It's the only way to see problems before they cost you goals, the only way to see where you need to make minor changes to your base tactics - e.g. up/down a couple of notches on the Closing Down slider of a player to maximise his effect... playing in any other mode you don't see the problems and potential problems early enough - you're supposed to be the manager but you can't be bothered to watch the culmination of your weeks work? it makes no sense... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stampler Posted April 21, 2011 Share Posted April 21, 2011 youre right lazaru5 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JGM Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 5 minutes each half?!?!?games "take too long"?!?!? This isn't the arcade... the ONLY way to truly play FM is to watch the full 90. It's the only way to see problems before they cost you goals, the only way to see where you need to make minor changes to your base tactics - e.g. up/down a couple of notches on the Closing Down slider of a player to maximise his effect... playing in any other mode you don't see the problems and potential problems early enough - you're supposed to be the manager but you can't be bothered to watch the culmination of your weeks work? it makes no sense... well some of us do have jobs and families... i agree my results would be better given your approach but i would rather get through a few more seasons, its good that the game is configurable enough to allow us to all play in our own way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CFish Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 I think playing football manager is time consuming as it is, with transfers, training etc, then to have to watch a match for 10 mins. Would take ages to complete a season. I like it how it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saints Forever Posted April 22, 2011 Author Share Posted April 22, 2011 So how many of you actually watch the full 90mins then lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazaru5 Posted April 22, 2011 Share Posted April 22, 2011 well some of us do have jobs and families...i agree my results would be better given your approach but i would rather get through a few more seasons, its good that the game is configurable enough to allow us to all play in our own way Check on both counts (which is why it takes me 3 weeks to play 15 matches....). For me the longevity in the game is the fact that I can play this particular save for the next 6-12 months (and beyond if necessary) and never get much beyond 20 seasons in. The save will never end unless I choose to end it. I'll never get 'bored' of playing it, I actually enjoy it more as the game becomes regen dominated... Although I played 09 on my laptop, I do have the save here on my desktop - I played that save, just one save for the whole of my FM09 career, and I didn't make it to 20 seasons in... EVEN AFTER I played it instead of FM10 after the disillusionment of it on release ( so for almost 2 full years in RL). I could load it up (well, install FM09.3 and load it up) and play it straight away... and probably win too My next game is against Dartford in the FA Cup and I am planning on playing my next superstar in it, the (now) 15 year old Thomas Dos Santos who could already hold down a place in a lower prem first team's centre-mid along with a few other youth/fringe players.. (this is how intense my games become, I can even remember the details of where they are at even if I haven't played them for months (or years)...) So how many of you actually watch the full 90mins then lol well me obviously... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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