11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Complete Bull!? Can someone please explain in real life a situation where Manchester United, just so happen to be on a run of 17 wins, versus the likes of Chelsea, Arsenal etc, can then go and play their first team, against BOLTON and lose 4-1. Same tactics, 99-100 % conditioned First Team, world class players, and lose 4-1. Why the hell can the AI work out your game plan so instantly so you must change your tactics. Its happened in the last four games ive started with a random massive loss for no reason, and is complete s***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 It's football. Of course this can happen. Without it, football would be dull and nobody could start such a thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 **** happens. Probably has to do with overconfidence and/or complacency in your team...or the other team just played better. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
low42 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 So, you lost 1 of your last 18 games and now the game is unrealistic? Interesting... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Laws of probability. You often see great teams on a run only to be met by devastation against a lower team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 not you again! Do people really have to explain to you how football irl and in the game works? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes, But it doesn't happen. There was no reason, nothing changed :S It's pathetic. Now, judging from past game experience i'll go on a ten game losing streak, until i turn my PC off and go on the game the next day, and amazingly it's all fixed again. This game really P***** me off!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 not you again! Do people really have to explain to you how football irl and in the game works? Looks like. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 not you again! Do people really have to explain to you how football irl and in the game works? What :S ? I know how football IRL works, and I also know the game is nothing like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes, But it doesn't happen. There was no reason, nothing changed :S It's pathetic. Now, judging from past game experience i'll go on a ten game losing streak, until i turn my PC off and go on the game the next day, and amazingly it's all fixed again. This game really P***** me off!! Once again- overconfidence in your team and/or complacency. In my St. Pauli save I beat Bayern 2 games in a row my first season (Cup, then league) then ended up losing the next match against Frankfurt- should I be bitching and moaning too? No- it happens. What :S ? I know how football IRL works, and I also know the game is nothing like it You obviously have no idea how football IRL works, so read up, son! http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/27/real-madrid-alcorcon-copa-del-rey http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCoQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tsn.ca%2Fsoccer%2Fstory%2F%3Fid%3D255554&ei=PinnTJ_QNYKclgeoqK3TCQ&usg=AFQjCNGefzYxg5TBVPU_NB1CbIHOPBiMBg http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&sqi=2&ved=0CFkQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewsbeta.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport2%2Fhi%2Ffootball%2Feng_prem%2F9180668.stm&ei=1innTM6TLcaAlAenruXTCQ&usg=AFQjCNGIFEt8Pvlxf1BBrPkA4Qr9Qo-sJg Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes, But it doesn't happen. There was no reason, nothing changed :S It's pathetic. Now, judging from past game experience i'll go on a ten game losing streak, until i turn my PC off and go on the game the next day, and amazingly it's all fixed again. This game really P***** me off!! What :S ? I know how football IRL works, and I also know the game is nothing like it then you would know changing nothing means your opponent learns how you play and your strategies for winning games, it does happen, deal with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 What :S ? I know how football IRL works, and I also know the game is nothing like it If football would be as predictable as you think it should, than everybody could become a millionaire by just betting the results of the next round. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tingting Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Do you even watch football? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyFun Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Maybe FM isn't the game for you?.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Maybe FM isn't the game for you?.. Maybe football isn't the game for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rancer890 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 League leaders Chelsea lost 3-0 to Sunderland last week. Do you watch football? Matches aren't won in the pre-match analysis of the players. It's won on the pitch. However, if you want, you can always reload against Bolton and beat them. Problem solved and your winning streak is intact. Happy gaming mate. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Maybe FM isn't the game for you?.. This I don't think the rest of us can be bothered picking up the OP's toys every time he loses and chucks them out the pram. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmi88 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 is this thread serious? or does the OP have issues Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Maybe football isn't the game for him? Maybe sports in general aren't good for him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Maybe sports in general aren't good for him? Perhaps its life thats the issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 No, but in a game where everything is fine and your team are playing well, a 4-1 loss is a bit over the top, 2-0 is fine but to ship 4 in one game when youve only conceded 4 for the rest of the season thus far is nonsense :/ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyler42 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 This sound just about as unrealistic as if Chelsea would loose 0 - 3 to Sunderland at home. Ohh wait. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 No, but in a game where everything is fine and your team are playing well, a 4-1 loss is a bit over the top, 2-0 is fine but to ship 4 in one game when youve only conceded 4 for the rest of the season thus far is nonsense :/ Once again: http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=10&sqi=2&ved=0CFkQFjAJ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewsbeta.bbc.co.uk%2Fsport2%2Fhi%2Ffootball%2Feng_prem%2F9180668.stm&ei=1innTM6TLcaAlAenruXTCQ&usg=AFQjCNGIFEt8Pvlxf1BBrPkA4Qr9Qo-sJg http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=4&ved=0CCoQFjAD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tsn.ca%2Fsoccer%2Fstory%2F%3Fid%3D255554&ei=PinnTJ_QNYKclgeoqK3TCQ&usg=AFQjCNGefzYxg5TBVPU_NB1CbIHOPBiMBg http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/oct/27/real-madrid-alcorcon-copa-del-rey Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 is this thread serious? or does the OP have issues Yes it is serious Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 No, but in a game where everything is fine and your team are playing well, a 4-1 loss is a bit over the top, 2-0 is fine but to ship 4 in one game when youve only conceded 4 for the rest of the season thus far is nonsense :/ After all the responses in this thread, do you really believe you are still right? I mean, really? Seriously? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 This sound just about as unrealistic as if Chelsea would loose 0 - 3 to Sunderland at home.Ohh wait. Where Chelsea had two or three star players out as well as losing their assistant manager in controversial circumstances days before? Not un realistic in my eyes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 After all the responses in this thread, do you really believe you are still right?I mean, really? Seriously? Hmm, Yes? Because a lot of people on these forums get kicks from coming on here to be as sarcastic as possible to please themselves, and that is their lifes? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 is this thread serious? or does the OP have issues No he just has a hissy fit every time he thinks something bad happens, as edgar has already pointed. @ OP I was on an 11 game unbeaten streak when I got hammered 7-2 by Real (painful), and then 5 games later lost 2-0 to Sociedad, but I didn't complain. I gave the team the hairdryer treatment and kept going on. BTW I'm Valenicia for my first semi-serious save. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yes it is serious No it really isn't. Its a joke. You lost. Man up and accept it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Where Chelsea had two or three star players out as well as losing their assistant manager in controversial circumstances days before?Not un realistic in my eyes ? of course its not unrealistic, it happened!!! You really want to call the game unrealistic because you didn't know how to handle a bolton side that had you all figured out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Hmm, Yes? Because a lot of people on these forums get kicks from coming on here to be as sarcastic as possible to please themselves, and that is their lifes? Yeah and other people who clearly no absolutely nothing about football come on here and cry when they've lost a game because they are big bad Man U and heaven forbid they should lose a game. Grow up and grow a pair. Or stop playing FM. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 No he just has a hissy fit every time he thinks something bad happens, as edgar has already pointed.@ OP I was on an 11 game unbeaten streak when I got hammered 7-2 by Real (painful), and then 5 games later lost 2-0 to Sociedad, but I didn't complain. I gave the team the hairdryer treatment and kept going on. BTW I'm Valenicia for my first semi-serious save. It's not a hissy fit :s it's my view that i think the game exaggerates certain circumstances, e.g. scorelines, goal difference. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregt or smokey Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 losing one game in 18 is unrealistic, yet winning 17 in a row is'nt? come on mate nobody likes losing on fm but we dont go and start complaining when we do Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Where Chelsea had two or three star players out as well as losing their assistant manager in controversial circumstances days before?Not un realistic in my eyes ? Home field advantage usually counts for a 3/4 advantage- Chelsea had that. Assistant managers and controversial circumstances shouldn't make that big of a difference, that's media hype ********. In your game, you probably play the same players too much making them jaded. Again, since you obviously missed it, your loss probably boiled down to overconfidence and/or complacency in your team- or possibly just the law of probability. Also, read the articles I posted- please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 Yeah and other people who clearly no absolutely nothing about football come on here and cry when they've lost a game because they are big bad Man U and heaven forbid they should lose a game.Grow up and grow a pair. Or stop playing FM. Bet i know a hell of a lot more about REAL football than you mate (y) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Okay, another one. Spain lost against Switzerland in the world cup after how many successful games? Not to say, that Switzerland lost against Luxembourg in there qualifying group. At home. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
KUBI Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Bet i know a hell of a lot more about REAL football than you mate (y) I think he will win this bet 4:1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 It's not a hissy fit :s it's my view that i think the game exaggerates certain circumstances, e.g. scorelines, goal difference. Well let me be the first to inform you that your view (which you are entitled to) is completely and utterly wrong, false and incorrect. And if this thread isn't a hissy fit, I have no idea what is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 Home field advantage usually counts for a 3/4 advantage- Chelsea had that. Assistant managers and controversial circumstances shouldn't make that big of a difference, that's media hype ********. In your game, you probably play the same players too much making them jaded. Again, since you obviously missed it, your loss probably boiled down to overconfidence and/or complacency in your team- or possibly just the law of probability. Also, read the articles I posted- please. I don't though, i regularly rotate players. And the Real Madrid ones were extremly under dog teams, that normally put on an outstanding performance, but I know what you mean. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 Well let me be the first to inform you that your view (which you are entitled to) is completely and utterly wrong, false and incorrect.And if this thread isn't a hissy fit, I have no idea what is. What a d***. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArranoBeltza Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Okay, another one. Spain lost against Switzerland in the world cup after how many successful games? Not to say, that Switzerland lost against Luxembourg in there qualifying group. At home. Actually, what about USA beating Spain in the Confed Cup after the Spaniards had won 15 straight, and hadn't lost in 35 matches? http://soccernet.espn.go.com/report?id=270153&cc=3888 OP should read that, too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 These are all good examples, but i still believe 4-1 is a bit of an exxagerated scoreline? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Bet i know a hell of a lot more about REAL football than you mate (y) Normally I wouldn't respond to this kind of comment. How does one prove their knowledge is greater than the other? However, luckily for me, this thread and your comments are living, enshrined in the internet forever proof that you know very little about football. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 Normally I wouldn't respond to this kind of comment. How does one prove their knowledge is greater than the other? However, luckily for me, this thread and your comments are living, enshrined in the internet forever proof that you know very little about football. Haha, and you know so much about football, you believe everything in a management sim is living, breathing footballing truth? Moron Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 What a d***. grow up, you're complaining because you lost one game in 18 and you can't handle losing a game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 What a d***. Excellent. The last bastion of the man losing an argument. Just turn to insults. Well done. Are you really 23 or have you added 10 years to your age for your profile? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smurf Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 I too have experienced the "Can't win a game until you quit game and load game again" It is something built into the game - that you can't win so many game etc. But teams that go on winning streaks often get complacent. My complaint here would be that the same results don't happen after restarting the game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
edgar555 Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 Haha, and you know so much about football, you believe everything in a management sim is living, breathing footballing truth? Moron Where have I said that? I assume you just didn't understand the meaning of my post. Which is unsurprising. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
11Clarkie11 Posted November 20, 2010 Author Share Posted November 20, 2010 grow up, you're complaining because you lost one game in 18 and you can't handle losing a game. I can handle losing a game but think the way in which i lost was unrealistic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Shanahan Posted November 20, 2010 Share Posted November 20, 2010 It's not a hissy fit :s it's my view that i think the game exaggerates certain circumstances, e.g. scorelines, goal difference. "I lost to Bolton, waah, waah, waah. The game is broken, I'm not playing with you any more". Yes it is pretty much a hissy fit. If you don't like being called on this kind of thing don't play the game and don't post here. You'd be doing the rest of us a favour. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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