JAYUK24 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Im Liverpool in 2015 and have Top Training Facilities and a state of the art youth facilities + youth academy yet I have never had any good regens, all the ones that come through have rubbish stats. Is there anyway of getting good quality regens through your youth system? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
likeabawss Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 It's down to luck, and yes, I got one really good left back that came through the academy at Milan Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Liverpool tend to get some good ones. Like likeabawss says, it's down to luck. You just have to be patient. How long have you waited so far? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYUK24 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 Well im in 2015 now and they got upgraded in 2011 so ever since then, I dont wanna keep having to buy young players from everyone else, even though it is nice developing them and selling them on Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatboyjohnmulhern Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 I too am Liverpool, in 2017/18 season now, still no amazing players, the best so far has gone on to play for England, after I sold him, he is a "Good Premier League Player", and I have another with "Decent .........". Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYUK24 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 The best one i've had so far is "has potential to be a fairly good player" had lots of them and they normall dont get offered a contract and leave on a free Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 Do you ever play them? loan them out? try to improve them? You've probably had good players but let them go. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 In my current game, in terms of top quality potential, only a couple of Dutch goalies and a Brazilian striker were generated at the end of the first season. Only 2 Englishmen were generated with 170+ potential, and both have inherent flaws that mean they're a liability. So you can see how slim the chances are in the first place. It's hard enough for the World, but you're narrowing it down to a single team in a whole country! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CooCooKaJoo Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 the best englishmen for me with a 198 PA came up at stoke Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAYUK24 Posted April 13, 2010 Author Share Posted April 13, 2010 I always loan them out for few years to my feeder clubs then play them in cups games etc, 1 or 2 have become wonderkids but i've bought them from other teams. All the ones that were let go had stats from 4-8 and were so crap, weren't worth keeping and haven't even been signed by other teams Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 13, 2010 Share Posted April 13, 2010 i'm in 2014 with liverpool and i had one good player come through, i gave him some game time (he even got goal of the season in the CL) but for some reason my coaches are now saying his PA is 2 stars when before it was 3. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wonky Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 i'm in 2014 with liverpool and i had one good player come through, i gave him some game time (he even got goal of the season in the CL) but for some reason my coaches are now saying his PA is 2 stars when before it was 3. If your squad is better now then his potential will be worse by comparison. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
UnitedLegends Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 On my last save with Man Utd i got an amazing homegrown right back called John Knight. Played him from the first year he came into my under 18's in cup matches and european group games and also in fairly easy league games. By the time he was 19 he was Englands number one right back and he went on to be worth at his peak £30m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 If your squad is better now then his potential will be worse by comparison. it was only one year and i haven't made any major changes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 i'm in 2014 with liverpool and i had one good player come through, i gave him some game time (he even got goal of the season in the CL) but for some reason my coaches are now saying his PA is 2 stars when before it was 3. Has he recently turned 17? The star ratings for PA often change based on age, so often as a player ages the coaches will drop their expectations. On the flip side though, the stars often seem to go back up again in their late twenties as the hit their peak. It can be a bit frustrating, every year I think I've got a new superstar but they don't always turn out like that. Still though, I am getting loads of good players through my youth system. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arsenal fan 123 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Im Liverpool in 2015 and have Top Training Facilities and a state of the art youth facilities + youth academy yet I have never had any good regens, all the ones that come through have rubbish stats.Is there anyway of getting good quality regens through your youth system? Thanks I've got exactly the same problem everything is top quality from coaches to facilities and im in 2015 but i've had no premiershit quality regens yet. Every season i look on genie scout for their PA and the highest one i've had is 143 But i suppose it is luck and we gotta be patient Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taytaz Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 Im Liverpool in 2015 and have Top Training Facilities and a state of the art youth facilities + youth academy yet I have never had any good regens, all the ones that come through have rubbish stats.Is there anyway of getting good quality regens through your youth system? Thanks it really is just random i got a world class regen whilst managing some random belgian team with no academy Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xennaz Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 It's random, influenced by certain other factors of course. Just having a youth academy doesn't guarantee top-class newgens, though it increases the likelihood. The reverse is also true of course, not having an academy may also bring a quality newgen through the ranks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
deejay10 Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 I'm Atalanta, and at the end of the first season, I got someone through who the coaches said could be the 'best of his generation'. Thats with top youth facilities though, and good youth coaches. In FM09 it took me 3 seasons at Palermo to get 2 really good youth talents through. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Millers Posted April 14, 2010 Share Posted April 14, 2010 pretty realistic dont u think? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Has he recently turned 17?The star ratings for PA often change based on age, so often as a player ages the coaches will drop their expectations. On the flip side though, the stars often seem to go back up again in their late twenties as the hit their peak. It can be a bit frustrating, every year I think I've got a new superstar but they don't always turn out like that. Still though, I am getting loads of good players through my youth system. That sounds about right he had recently turned 18 when i noticed the drop in PA rating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dakin116 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 pretty realistic dont u think? I think it is. You can't really expect a Steven Gerrard type to come through your academy every couple of years. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foxleb Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Save the game right after you receive invitation to Reserves and Youth competition (June 24), you can reload the game until you get a good regen Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlo116 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Save the game right after you receive invitation to Reserves and Youth competition (June 24), you can reload the game until you get a good regen thats called cheating If you have top youth facilities you'll get one eventually. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
djsanj Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 As barcelona i also had a regen dubbed 'the best of his generation' by my ass man. turned out he had a Pa in the 130's.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich_Millers Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 As barcelona i also had a regen dubbed 'the best of his generation' by my ass man. turned out he had a Pa in the 130's.... Yep I think thats the scout report fergie recieved when man utd signed David Bellion, Eric Djemba-Djemba, etc. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
numbas2 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Well I don't see the big deal here. You're all complaining there's not enough World Class talent coming through, but lots of 140-160PA. In older FMs this would be pretty bad... but FM10 140 is Premierleague... I think SWPs is 147? I have just returned from 3/4 years out of FM. I think you're expecting too much!! Most of the players you're getting rid will be good squad players at the least. 170+ isn't going to regularly occur at any club. Plus we can't poach even younger players. Real life that does happen. Maybe that's incorporated though, as part of the 'standard' of facilities. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 I'm Villa and my Youth Facilities are about 18 out of 20 and over the past two years I've been getting quality regens from them. I've had one with a PA of about 178 and I've just recieved my new regens and I've got one who can play at a similar level to Nathan Delfouneso. It may seem odd but since I've had my scouting knowledge of the world significantly increase I've noticed I'm getting better regens from the academy. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bodonodon Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Someone mentioned youth coaches above, does it really have an affect on what quality regens you get (on average)? I thought it was only: facilities, reputation and location (and random luck of course). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedore Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 If you enjoy dodgy practices, save and restart until you get good players Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 ^^^^ That's one of the worst kinds of cheating... But without cheating I just got an awesome regen from my academy with 193 PA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 ^^^^That's one of the worst kinds of cheating... But without cheating I just got an awesome regen from my academy with 193 PA Others would argue that looking at PA is the worst kind of cheating Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Uhh.... Yeah :o Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tinkerman84 Posted April 15, 2010 Share Posted April 15, 2010 Uhh....yes i think that even lookin at PA as nubers by using scout utility or smthng like it, is also means cheating.. however restarting a lossed macth or restarting before the creation of regens is which i call "deceiving yourself" !! My point Of view would never appriciate those kind of things.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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