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  1. I've taken this idea and tweaked it slightly, losing the AP from the MC position and instead switching the duo to a CM(A) and DLP(S), and having great success so far.
  2. You could actually try a CM(A), starts deep but contributes greatly to the attack, while also defending, given the right PPMs and attributes. Depending on the rest of the team, however, he might be swamped by other, more advanced players in your side, and thus not be as involved as you'd like.
  3. Lille, Champions League winners in Season 1 with the 4411. Very, very, well done. Not an invincible set of tactics, but they do what they say on the tin, if you have the right players for them.
  4. How will it work if the DLP is pushed more central, and so the MC(A) goes a little wider? Might help closing down the space on that side.
  5. I use a (pseudo) narrow diamond a lot, and agree that a CWB(A)-FB(S) combination with a HB(D) works very well. I sometimes go for 3 CMs, with the middle one as an AP(A) with high closing down and hard tackling, so he doesn't slack off defensively, and during the game it manifests itself as a diamond. The other two CMs are the ones I am tweaking, I've tried the following: B2B(s) x2 BWM(D) + B2B (S) DLP(D) + B2B(S) CM(D) + RP(S) ...and have so far found the most joy with the CM(D) + RP(S) duo (trio, along with the AP), the CM(D) on the same side as the CWB(A).
  6. Yea, that's exactly the issue I'm facing, which is in many ways not like how it "works" in real life. Obviously lateral movement (from a Treq, for example) alleviates this, but not all the time. Anyone else have other observations?
  7. Update: Have gone through four iterations of this now, and am almost happy with the latest version. Changes from Original: DR - Complete Wingback (A) - To take advantage of Corchia's amazingness CDM - Halfback (D) - Compensating for a more attacking Rightback, and allows for more solidity RCM - Central Midfielder (D) - Helps to keep the midfield stable LCM - Roaming Playmaker (S) - Him and the AP(A) run the show, sometimes with over 80 passes each (in my last game the RP got 104, AP 79, beat Sparta Prague 4-0 in the Champs League second round) RCST - Complete Forward (S) - Is more involved in the buildup, but also offers a threat in behind compared to the DLF/F9 LCST - Advanced Forward (A) - Offers more than the poacher Issues/Observations - The addition of the RP gives my team more control, but I make much fewer tackles, which is to expected with more of the ball. Not tested against quality opposition yet. - Creates lots of chances, but miss a lot too. Not sure if it's an issue of tempo, decision-making, or overall quality of players - The leftback finds himself inside the box a lot, even though he is not set to Attack, nor has he any PPMs that encourage it, and he is playing on the side with the more "attacking" midfielders. - The AP is acting the like Diablo CM of old, though not nearly as effective, just that he continually collects the ball and bombs forward heroically, thinking nobody can stop him.
  8. Hi all, Been tinkering with various set-ups, and have always wondered about this. In real life, it's easy to envision a forward (or at least a more advanced player) dropping off/deep to create space and/or drag a defender away for an attacker coming in from deep, but does this translate directly to FM? For example: Using a False 9 in the STCR position, intuition suggests something like a CM(A) in the MCR slot, right? But does the match engine also take into account players not wanting to take up the same space, as it were? The MC might not bomb forward as much because he'd run into the F9 (figuratively). Should the onrushing player "behind" a more advanced player, and attack the space behind him, instead? I know that logically speaking, the former - and perhaps both - scenarios make as much sense, but was just wondering about your opinions, experiences, and observations of this particular facet of tactic-building, in relation to the current engine (as opposed to previous ones where players could "clip" though others ala Diablo).
  9. Hi all, Have recently begun a new career in FM15, and wanted a nice challenge with a squad and side that isn't rich or bloated with stars, but also in some continental competition. Went with Lille, for those reasons and more, and have elected to try and make a 4132/4312 formation that works the way I want it to. Here's how it looks so far, GK: Sweeper Keeper (S) - Vincent Enyeama - Quick throws RB: Fullback (S) - Sébastien Corchia - Stay wider, run wide with ball RCB: Central Defender (D) - Marko Baša - Short passing LCB: Central Defender (D) - Simon Kjær - Short passing LB: Fullback (S) - Franck Béria - Stay wider, run wide with ball CDM: Defensive Midfielder (D) - Rio Mavuba - Short passing, Fewer risky passes, Shoot less often, Dribble less RCM: Ball Winning Midfielder (S) - Souahilo Meïté - Close down more, Tackle harder, fewer risky passes, shoot less often CM: Advanced Playmaker (A) - Marcos Lopes / Marvin Martin - Get further forward, Roam from position, More risky passes, Move into channels, Close Down more, Tackle harder LCM: Ball Winning Midfielder (S) - Florent Balmont - Close down more, Tackle harder, fewer risky passes, shoot less often RCST: Deep-Lying Forward (A) - M'baye Niang (on loan from Milan) - Roam from position, Move into channels, More risky passes LCST: Poacher (A) - Divock Origi - Roam from position, Move into channels Attacking, Fluid, Close Down More, Tackle Harder, Short Passing, Prevent GK Distribution Notes/Initial Objectives: - Play a quick, attacking game with goals from midfield as well as the forward line - Heavily based upon the old discussions of how a true 4231 in FM14 needed to use the midfield strata, and not the AM strata - Also borrowed greatly from the wealth of successful 4132 tactics that have been posted for FM14, and everyone's favorite Diablo tactic from way back when. - Preference for 2 strikers and at least one (pseudo)attacking midfielder, because of the presence of Origi and Niang (and Frey and Roux), and no true wingers Observations: - Average positions indicate that this tactic has the side manifest itself as a narrow(ish) 442 Diamond, with the Advanced Playmaker the one in the "hole" (obviously), which is what I was going for - Have won every game thus far, though I tend to blitz the first half and then fade in the second (4-0 up against Napoli in the UCL Quals, 4-2 at fulltime, 11-1 on aggregate v Panathinaikos). I don't have a strong bench, though, and don't actually make changes to protect a lead because I want to see how the tactic does in different stages of any given game. - The CM is the star of the team, making 70-90 passes a game, a ton of dribbles, and his fair share of tackles as well. Gets on the end of crosses, but also wastes many chances - There is not a lot of actual link-up between the two forwards, might change the poacher to an Advanced Forward to get him more involved (thoughts?) - The RCM never gets a rating higher than 6.9 in the games I've played (aside from my thumping of Panathinaikos), though the LCM does very well. May well be because of the simple fact the player used there is not as good as Balmont, but I had Mavuba there for the first few games of the season and he didn't contribute either. - The RB makes many more tackles and passes than the LB - The Defensive Midfielder does exactly what I need him to do, shielding the defense while being mobile when required. Questions/Possible experimentation: - Changing the roles of the forwards for more effective link-up. DLF/AP, F9/CF, TM/P, DF,AF are what I'm considering. - Changing the role of the RCM to get him more involved, though do not want to sacrifice the mobility and driving force of the CM beside him - Tinkering with set-pieces, as they are currently set to default, though I've scored a fair number from corners (Basa has 5 in all comps by the end of August) - Considering having a 4-2-1-3 shape instead of a 4-1-3-2, to better accomodate the two solid midfielders Mavuba and Balmont as well as Origi, Niang, and another attacker Any thoughts?
  10. Additional comment: Do not like that roles have been removed from pitch view, as others have said.
  11. Is it not possible anymore to go back to coach/assistant reports once you've seen them? And forgive me if I'm missing something, but where are the "new" player roles? And Regista? EDIT: I "see" the roles now, only when I mouseover though.
  12. Hi everyone, been working on a 433/Diamond hybrid for a while now, and it's actually been working, though inconsistently - and tends to do well in the earlier parts of matches before tailing off. Here's the basic setup: GK: SWK(A) DR: FB(A) DCR: BPD(A) DCL: CD(A) DL: WB(S) DMRC: HB (D) DMLC: RGA (S) MC: AP(S) AMRC: AM(S) AMLC: TQ (A) STC: CF (A) Team Instructions: Pass Into Space Be More Expressive Get Stuck In Hassle Opponents Higher Tempo Retain Possession What I've observed so far is very nice interplay going forward, sometimes with upwards of 70 passes in the first half from the Regista and the Advanced Playmaker (most times 80-90), with the MC often saying to be "Bossing the midfield" (I love that!) though we are badly exposed on the flanks sometimes. I am not really looking to move the players in the AM strata wider to compensate for that, because I almost never get "wingers" to work, and I like the three attackers as they are. I am tempted, though, to drop them back to the Midfield strata instead, and set them both as CM(A), since that tends to work well in the right set up, but am afraid it will isolate my frontman. As it is the Treq gets into a lot of great goalscoring positions, and does as much as the striker himself in terms of finding the net. The AM doesn't do a whole lot compared to the other two. Average positions post match resemble a narrow-ish 4231, with the player you'd expect as the AMC (or in the "hole") dropping deep. Obviously lacking individual instructions and all, but that's still being tweaked. Any ideas and suggestions?
  13. I've got some success using a pseudo 4-2-3-1 with the following set-up: GK: Sweeper Keeper (S/A) - Quick throws DR: Wingback (S) DC: Ball-playing Defender (D) DC: Central Defender (D) DL: Fullback (A) DM: Regista (S) DM: Deep-lying Playmaker (S) MR: Wide Midfielder (A) - Cut inside, Get further forward, roam from position ML: Wide Midfielder (A) - Cut inside, Get further forward, roam from position AMC: Support Striker (A) - Roam from position, move into channels ST: Complete Forward/Targetmat/Deep-lying Forward (S) - Hold position, more direct passes Note: Shoot less often is selected on every player Philosophy: Fluid Mentality: Attacking Team Instructions: Pass into space, exploit the flanks (or a particular flank if there is a weakness), High tempo, hassle opponents. Be more expressive What I've found is that the team is generally attacking (as the mentality suggests) but the set-up allows for very quick transitions via your two WMs. A lot of people (myself included) have come around to the idea that the WM is the most versatile role for a wide attacker, as well as being a good way to get your wide men involved more, while not sacrificing much going forward. The AM and Striker pairing changes, sometimes I bring him back to MC, either as an AP (S) or AP (A) depending on how my midfield is coping. Sometimes I push him higher up to go alongside the striker as well. The team shape is generally a 442/4231, and moves the ball around quickly. The SWK distributes quickly, I generally have on Quick throws to initiate quick breaks when it's on. The wide defenders both go forward when my team is on the offensive as well, and compliment the WMs that act the way IFs should act in-game. Am actually planning to switch things around to actually instruct the team to be more direct as well, to see how that works in terms of generating chances as well as transitioning from attack to defence.
  14. United languished in mid-table till March in my game, and then surged to the top and won the title on the last day by goal difference after Chelsea and Arsenal drew each other, and City (I think) lost. Quite spectacular. Went on to win 3 of the next 5 league seasons, but never got past the Quarters in the Champions League.
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