Daffie Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I do NOT understand this. I really thought there was no way I could be third after 5 matches but it seems I was wrong or there is a bug... Can someone explain the rules because I clearly lack the understanding... Ofcourse I send in my B team for the last match thinking I am going to be second anyway (better result between Fiorentina)... I saved this game before I reloaded and played the match again with my best 11 (won 0-4 that time by the way). If someone from SI needs my save game I am happy to upload it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helemaalnicks Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 its correct. Results between teams puts florence over paris, and paris over barca, and barca over florence. Means goal difference is decisive. Lucky draw btw. I say, reload the load where you came in third and play europa league . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I do NOT understand this. I really thought there was no way I could be third after 5 matches but it seems I was wrong or there is a bug...Can someone explain the rules because I clearly lack the understanding... Ofcourse I send in my B team for the last match thinking I am going to be second anyway (better result between Fiorentina)... I saved this game before I reloaded and played the match again with my best 11 (won 0-4 that time by the way). If someone from SI needs my save game I am happy to upload it. When three teams are level you need to discard all the results against the other club - Lech. Then do a new league table only including the matches between Barcelona, Fiorentina & PSG. Matches BAR 1-0 FIO FIO 0-0 BAR BAR 2-2 PSG PSG 5-0 BAR FIO 0-0 PSG PSG 1-2 FIO Team Pts GD PSG 5 +4 FIO 5 0 -------------------- BAR 5 -4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
barka_legend Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Lol @ 5-0 hammering.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
speople Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 It seems obvious to me, and it isn't a bug. I looked at just the table first, to get a hypothesis, and then at the results to see if they confirmed it, which they did. and the reason you went out is : Because you all lost one against each other, the winner of the group is decided by goal difference, and PSG had the biggest GD. 2nd place goes to Fiorentina, because they had the better head to head record against PSG (the group winner) AND had a better GD in the group than you. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CMOZZA Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I think its because you, Fiorentina & PSG all finished on 11pts, therefore it takes into account your results against PSG & Fiorentina's results against PSG first? Where PSG picked up 4 points from you, and Fiorentina picked up 4 points from PSG? Probably not the best way to explain what I'm trying to say but can't think of how to explain it...lol Not entirely sure though, but I will advise not taking for granted that you've qualified until you see that "Q" next to your name in future. Edit: Never mind, it was explained perfectly above Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheekylad68 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 No probs here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
robzilla Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Why does this have to be explained weekly?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffie Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 Ow, damn, didnt know this rule when 3 clubs get the same points. I just thought that PSG would be above me because they were better in our 2 matches but I would be above Fiorentina because I was better in the 2 results. Seems we have to take into account all matches the 3 of us played against each other. Makes indeed more sense now if I look at it but not knowing the rules made me put up my B team so thats why I reloaded Thanks for the responses. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastwood Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 I can't believe it got to that situation playing as Barca in the firts place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArsenalFan7 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 How did you exactly manage to lose 5-0 against PSG when they clearly hugely lack quality compared to your squad who have Messi etc in the first place? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dinaldo Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 As he said, the reserves were played:thup: Bet he regrets that now:D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
erik86 Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Reload the old one and play the Europa League! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffie Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 How did you exactly manage to lose 5-0 against PSG when they clearly hugely lack quality compared to your squad who have Messi etc in the first place? Please read my post.... Why the hell would I play Messi when I thought I could not get out of the top 2 anyway? Mistake though in the end but oh well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
helemaalnicks Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Please read my post....Why the hell would I play Messi when I thought I could not get out of the top 2 anyway? Mistake though in the end but oh well because 1. the rules state you should 2. for the 700k 3. for the fans 4. for the first spot, to get a better draw 5. because you can imo playing reserves was a mistake, regardless of the fact that you 'already' had 8 points. I play second team if Im top anyway, otherwise ill play some fresh players, but I wouldn't just let paris beat me 5-0. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fart Posted March 15, 2010 Share Posted March 15, 2010 Ow, damn, didnt know this rule when 3 clubs get the same points.I just thought that PSG would be above me because they were better in our 2 matches but I would be above Fiorentina because I was better in the 2 results. Seems we have to take into account all matches the 3 of us played against each other. Makes indeed more sense now if I look at it but not knowing the rules made me put up my B team so thats why I reloaded If this was real life then would you file a complaint to UEFA asking for the match to be replayed because you didn't know the rules? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffie Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 because1. the rules state you should 2. for the 700k 3. for the fans 4. for the first spot, to get a better draw 5. because you can imo playing reserves was a mistake, regardless of the fact that you 'already' had 8 points. I play second team if Im top anyway, otherwise ill play some fresh players, but I wouldn't just let paris beat me 5-0. For your info I "already" had 11 points. For the money is ********, I got a balance of dunno how much. I only signed 2 players up till now. I like to play with own youth. And for the first spot is ******** too, just depends on who is first in the other groups. I have seen it alot before that being first in the group turns out to be a disadvantage (= tougher draw) And for the fans? It was an away game so it would be more for the PSG fans And because I can? If prefer to have my first 11 in a better condition for the "more important" league game in the same week (notice that I put it in brackets to signal my mistake ) But I agree with ya on 1 point: it turned out to be a mistake Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daffie Posted March 15, 2010 Author Share Posted March 15, 2010 If this was real life then would you file a complaint to UEFA asking for the match to be replayed because you didn't know the rules? No, but if it was in real life 99% chance I would have known this. Thats what I keep telling myself anyway Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Ow, damn, didnt know this rule when 3 clubs get the same points.I just thought that PSG would be above me because they were better in our 2 matches but I would be above Fiorentina because I was better in the 2 results. Seems we have to take into account all matches the 3 of us played against each other. Makes indeed more sense now if I look at it but not knowing the rules made me put up my B team so thats why I reloaded Thanks for the responses. There is a Rules screen that tells you these rules for all competitions, so it's pretty easy to check if there's a bug or if the format is one you are unfamiliar with. Always worth looking at when managing in different competitions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cougar2010 Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 There is a Rules screen that tells you these rules for all competitions, so it's pretty easy to check if there's a bug or if the format is one you are unfamiliar with. Always worth looking at when managing in different competitions. Yes and he has posted it in post #1 Glenn. The problem is the rules page doesn't always make it clear especially when more than two teams finish on the same points. It just states "Results between Teams" which seems to confuse many users. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stephanie McMahon's Secret Lover Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 What a mistake! A huge bloooooper! IRL they'd string you up, hang, draw and quarter you and THEN sack you! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
niletaylor Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 What a mistake! A huge bloooooper! IRL they'd string you up' date=' hang, draw and quarter you and THEN sack you! [/quote']you deserve to go by no dominating that easy group. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted March 16, 2010 Share Posted March 16, 2010 Can't we leave him alone now? He got his answer, took the blame and done. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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