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Looking for a new laptop to play FM with 20+ leagues loaded, and a large database. Will also be used for studying and the occasional bit of spreadsheet work.

Looking to spend around £700, £800 at a push. Can anybody recommend?

Also, I’d prefer a larger screen, but does this come at a cost, whether it be in the form of £ or spec?

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7 hours ago, Adamm90 said:

Looking for a new laptop to play FM with 20+ leagues loaded, and a large database. Will also be used for studying and the occasional bit of spreadsheet work.

Looking to spend around £700, £800 at a push. Can anybody recommend?

Also, I’d prefer a larger screen, but does this come at a cost, whether it be in the form of £ or spec?

Larger screen https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-1799E5-1225-MSI-GL72M-7REX-1225UK_2206597.html

Mind the battery power though - only last about 3 hours off charge and 2.5 hours to charge fully.

 

 

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Would this spec be a good choice for FM? 
Chassis & Display
UltraNote: 15.6" Matte HD LED Backlit Widescreen (1366x768)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEL® HD GRAPHICS 610/620/630 (CPU Dependant) - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
1st Hard Disk
240GB ADATA SU650 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE 7mm SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 128MB CACHE (5,400rpm)

Price £667.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ultranoteiv-15/QXQZrCYZ!J/

 

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Have lurked trough the comments but didn't see one that I'm looking for. 

Budget is around 700 euro's could stretch up to 850 but only if I'm really getting worth for my money.

I want to play the big leagues + Dutch eredivisie using the largest database. Also want to use it as a host in a networkgame. Other games I play are motorsport manager and cities skyline. 

I also wanna use the laptop for photoshop, word and excel. 

If possible I would like to connect it to a second monitor. 

I think you guys are doing God's work. Keep it up!

Need to be able to ship it to Holland

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7 hours ago, Perrypj said:

Would this spec be a good choice for FM? 
Chassis & Display
UltraNote: 15.6" Matte HD LED Backlit Widescreen (1366x768)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Quad Core Processor 7300HQ (2.5GHz, 3.5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair 2133MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
INTEL® HD GRAPHICS 610/620/630 (CPU Dependant) - 1.7GB Max DDR4 Video RAM - DirectX® 12
1st Hard Disk
240GB ADATA SU650 2.5" SSD, SATA 6 Gb (520MB/R, 450MB/W)
2nd Hard Disk
1TB SEAGATE 7mm SERIAL ATA III 2.5" HARD DRIVE WITH 128MB CACHE (5,400rpm)

Price £667.00 including VAT and delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/ultranoteiv-15/QXQZrCYZ!J/

 

This would be better https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM970T-ASUS-ZX553VD-DM970T-Gaming-Laptop_2145528.html

 

1 minute ago, Jorik112 said:

Have lurked trough the comments but didn't see one that I'm looking for. 

Budget is around 700 euro's could stretch up to 850 but only if I'm really getting worth for my money.

I want to play the big leagues + Dutch eredivisie using the largest database. Also want to use it as a host in a networkgame. Other games I play are motorsport manager and cities skyline. 

I also wanna use the laptop for photoshop, word and excel. 

If possible I would like to connect it to a second monitor. 

I think you guys are doing God's work. Keep it up!

 

This would has a nice graphics card 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-DM102T-ASUS-FX503VM-DM102T-Gaming-Laptop_2267825.html

But - you do need to upgrade your RAM to at least 16gb (8gb will be ok for now)

And I'd upgrade the SSD to at least 256gb  - but that can done at a later stage. 

 

This is also favourable - similarly you would need to add more RAM. But that would be the only minor change. 

The graphics card is ok. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html

 

 

Ideally; if I was you, and I am - in a way - as I am a graphic designer that uses Photoshop daily, I'd be aiming for this, or similar:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/17-w110na-HP-OMEN-17-w110na_2025523.html

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@Smurf 

This would has a nice graphics card 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-DM102T-ASUS-FX503VM-DM102T-Gaming-Laptop_2267825.html

But - you do need to upgrade your RAM to at least 16gb (8gb will be ok for now)

And I'd upgrade the SSD to at least 256gb  - but that can done at a later stage. 

 

This is also favourable - similarly you would need to add more RAM. But that would be the only minor change. 

The graphics card is ok. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html

Out of these two which one would you recommend to me? As I have no idea how I would add more RAM and SSD need to look into that. 

The other one is way out of my budget, so that's a no go.

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Hi,

Any recommendations for a 13.3" laptop to run FM18? I would like a good battery and decent performance (I dont run big databases). My budget is 900€.

Thanks

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1 hour ago, Jorik112 said:

@Smurf 

This would has a nice graphics card 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-DM102T-ASUS-FX503VM-DM102T-Gaming-Laptop_2267825.html

But - you do need to upgrade your RAM to at least 16gb (8gb will be ok for now)

And I'd upgrade the SSD to at least 256gb  - but that can done at a later stage. 

 

This is also favourable - similarly you would need to add more RAM. But that would be the only minor change. 

The graphics card is ok. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html

Out of these two which one would you recommend to me? As I have no idea how I would add more RAM and SSD need to look into that. 

The other one is way out of my budget, so that's a no go.

I'd go with the 2nd one.

Adding more RAM is simple. You're laptop will come with a PDF manual that will describe the type of RAM that it has. 

You'd look it up and buy 8gb more of the same RAM. 

Then there's a hatch on the base of the laptop with a screw - unscrew it to open the hatch. Then you just slot the RAM in - if you're not comfortable with it then any tech shop like PC world etc would do it for you.

 

1 hour ago, MorroZural said:

Hi,

Any recommendations for a 13.3" laptop to run FM18? I would like a good battery and decent performance (I dont run big databases). My budget is 900€.

Thanks

Hard pushed on any laptop at 13.3 that I'd recommend. Obv for travel etc.

 

 

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il y a 7 minutes, Smurf a dit :

Hard pushed on any laptop at 13.3 that I'd recommend. Obv for travel etc.

 

 

You think the Dell Inspiron 13 700 for example is not enough to satisfy my requirements? (i5-8250U, 8Go Ram, SSD, Integrated graphics)

Do you think I should either pay more to get a good 13" or that I should push to 15" laptop?

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16 hours ago, MorroZural said:

You think the Dell Inspiron 13 700 for example is not enough to satisfy my requirements? (i5-8250U, 8Go Ram, SSD, Integrated graphics)

Do you think I should either pay more to get a good 13" or that I should push to 15" laptop?

The Dell 13' are excellent and more than good enough for Fm.. the problem comes in when you consider prolonged use with such a workload like fm gaming...

 

The laptop will get super hot...

 

If you can find yourself compromising and pushing up to a 15" .. you'll find your options open up incredibly in terms of price and spec tbh..

 

But like I say, if you need a 13" screen, something with that spec is more than good enough to handle fm.

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Might as well whack this here instead of starting a new thread.

I am getting an iMac next week and wondered if it's easy enough to transfer FM18 over? (i'm guessing FM can run ok on a mac?) - do i simply install and log in to Steam and the game will download or is there something more technical required?

Thanks in advance

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Guys, I'd really appreciate if you could tell me if this laptop works for FM 18. I'm not too keen on 3d views and neither do I load all leagues. 10-20 at best.

Ryzen 5 Quad Core

2 GHz with turbo boost upto 3.6 GHz (I know 18 has 2.2 as minimum but I wanna ask about turbo boost if it counts)

AMD Radeon Vega 8

256 GB SSD

8gb Ram

 

I'm basically going for an Acer Swift 3 Ryzen 5 in the Indian market.

 

Kindly advise. Thanks.

 

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The effectiveness of turbo boost depends on how AMD have designed it to kick in.

As an example Intel’s turbo boost 3.0 would appear to be inaffective for FM as it increases the clock on specific cores rather than the entire cpu based on demand & FM applies load to all cores when processing matches so the addition clock frequency is never activated.

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Hmm so is it worthless? I'm quite illiterate when it comes to these specifics.

 

Or will 2ghz do the job? I'm asking this cos I'm getting a discount on this laptop as the seller is a friend.

 

Though I'm reading stuff right now that AMD's turbo boost setting is quite efficient. Not 100pc sure though

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Looking for a laptop under £500 if possible. Would be used for browsing the web, watching films and the occasional bit of FM. I only usually load about 3 countries with the top 2 leagues in each country and a medium database. I can’t imagine i’d need anything spectacular.

Would be ideal to have a 15 inch screen with 5 or more hours of battery life. Im guessing a decent i7 or i5 “U” processor is needed.

if anyones seen anything on the market that would be great. I’ve seen a few decent i7 7700HQ’s for around £700 but obviously with them you only get a couple of hours battery life and the price seems a bit over the top for how much I would be using it.

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6 hours ago, oi_oi_ginger_roy said:

Might as well whack this here instead of starting a new thread.

I am getting an iMac next week and wondered if it's easy enough to transfer FM18 over? (i'm guessing FM can run ok on a mac?) - do i simply install and log in to Steam and the game will download or is there something more technical required?

Thanks in advance

Depends on the Mac Model and year. Generally expensive, I find it a waste of money for FM. You can get a better PC for much cheaper. But up to you.

Yes login to Steam and download any purchased games. 

If you have a previous saved game of FM you'll need to transfer this save game to the Mac - there's instructions online. 

 

 

5 hours ago, aj4xxx said:

Hmm so is it worthless? I'm quite illiterate when it comes to these specifics.

 

Or will 2ghz do the job? I'm asking this cos I'm getting a discount on this laptop as the seller is a friend.

 

Though I'm reading stuff right now that AMD's turbo boost setting is quite efficient. Not 100pc sure though

Min Spec is 2.2ghz - so I would definitely say that 2ghz is below spec.

 

1 hour ago, carl000 said:

Looking for a laptop under £500 if possible. Would be used for browsing the web, watching films and the occasional bit of FM. I only usually load about 3 countries with the top 2 leagues in each country and a medium database. I can’t imagine i’d need anything spectacular.

Would be ideal to have a 15 inch screen with 5 or more hours of battery life. Im guessing a decent i7 or i5 “U” processor is needed.

if anyones seen anything on the market that would be great. I’ve seen a few decent i7 7700HQ’s for around £700 but obviously with them you only get a couple of hours battery life and the price seems a bit over the top for how much I would be using it.

This would be in your price range of closer to £500 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html

 

For the 700 this would be good

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM970T-ASUS-ZX553VD-DM970T-Gaming-Laptop_2145528.html

 

 

 

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So is turbo boost from 2 to 3.6 GHz not worth it?  I mean is it a make or break situation here or is 2 (to 3.6 GHz) still manageable?

 

And thanks both for your replies

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A quick google suggests that the AMD turbo function increases clock frequency across all cores equally & in line with increased processing demands so in theory a 2GHz cpu with boost to 3.6GHz should be fine for FM.

 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Depends on the Mac Model and year. Generally expensive, I find it a waste of money for FM. You can get a better PC for much cheaper. But up to you.

Yes login to Steam and download any purchased games. 

If you have a previous saved game of FM you'll need to transfer this save game to the Mac - there's instructions online.

Yeah i've got a decent PC for gaming but i also run a design agency so use a Mac whilst in the office - being the boss I can't get sacked for a bit of FM'ing during working hours :D

It's this model:
2017 Apple iMac 27" Retina 5K Display, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB Fusion, Radeon Pro 570

thanks for the help, buddy :thup:

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15 hours ago, oi_oi_ginger_roy said:

Yeah i've got a decent PC for gaming but i also run a design agency so use a Mac whilst in the office - being the boss I can't get sacked for a bit of FM'ing during working hours :D

It's this model:
2017 Apple iMac 27" Retina 5K Display, Intel Core i5, 8GB RAM, 1TB Fusion, Radeon Pro 570

thanks for the help, buddy :thup:

Yeh - do design myself, so understand your dilema. 

Yes, this would be ok, it would be tough on 3D matches though, so maybe on lower graphic detail. 

 

What's your budget and are you buying from the Mac store in the UK? (As I can look for you).

 

If you're doing design (and totally depends on what type) but I'd be plumping for more RAM.

 

 

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3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Yeh - do design myself, so understand your dilema. 

Yes, this would be ok, it would be tough on 3D matches though, so maybe on lower graphic detail. 

 

What's your budget and are you buying from the Mac store in the UK? (As I can look for you).

 

If you're doing design (and totally depends on what type) but I'd be plumping for more RAM.

 

 

Yeah will upgrade the RAM to 16GB but just wasn't sure on the graphics card...obviously would like to play in 3D :D

Yeah in the UK

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@Smurf would you be better going for a higher spec processor or graphics card? Like the Asus machines and two priced at £800. One with i5 and 1060 card, other i7 with 1050i. Mostly playing FM, but may fable into some FPS games too.

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17 hours ago, Smurf said:

Depends on the Mac Model and year. Generally expensive, I find it a waste of money for FM. You can get a better PC for much cheaper. But up to you.

Yes login to Steam and download any purchased games. 

If you have a previous saved game of FM you'll need to transfer this save game to the Mac - there's instructions online. 

 

 

Min Spec is 2.2ghz - so I would definitely say that 2ghz is below spec.

 

This would be in your price range of closer to £500 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16JD21-068-MSI-Prestige-PL62-7RC-068UK-in-Sliver_2197296.html

 

For the 700 this would be good

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM970T-ASUS-ZX553VD-DM970T-Gaming-Laptop_2145528.html

 

 

 

Thanks for the reply. They look pretty decent but the batterys aren’t good enough. Want something that can last at least 4-5 hours really :(

 

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1 hour ago, oi_oi_ginger_roy said:

Yeah will upgrade the RAM to 16GB but just wasn't sure on the graphics card...obviously would like to play in 3D :D

Yeah in the UK

So what's the budget :) 

 

1 hour ago, Ajwellis said:

@Smurf would you be better going for a higher spec processor or graphics card? Like the Asus machines and two priced at £800. One with i5 and 1060 card, other i7 with 1050i. Mostly playing FM, but may fable into some FPS games too.

Depends what you want to do. 

If you want more leagues/divisions/database size - then the better processor

If you want to play graphics on full detail - then the better graphics card. 

48 minutes ago, carl000 said:

Thanks for the reply. They look pretty decent but the batterys aren’t good enough. Want something that can last at least 4-5 hours really :(

 

With FM running it will not likely run for 4-5 hours anyway, as it would be pretty processor intensive. You'd nearly need to look at 8hours+.

This is on the circa 800 and long battery https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q2CEK.001-Acer-Predator-Helios-300-G3-572-56AS_2247496.html

 

This is on slightly cheaper side - slightly less battery

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.002-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-53HF_2283341.html

Not much in the difference between the 2 

- graphics card in the 1st one is better - but not by much.

 

 

 

 

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11 minutes ago, Smurf said:

So what's the budget :) 

 

Depends what you want to do. 

If you want more leagues/divisions/database size - then the better processor

If you want to play graphics on full detail - then the better graphics card. 

With FM running it will not likely run for 4-5 hours anyway, as it would be pretty processor intensive. You'd nearly need to look at 8hours+.

This is on the circa 800 and long battery https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NH.Q2CEK.001-Acer-Predator-Helios-300-G3-572-56AS_2247496.html

 

This is on slightly cheaper side - slightly less battery

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GP8EK.002-Acer-Aspire-7-A715-71G-53HF_2283341.html

Not much in the difference between the 2 

- graphics card in the 1st one is better - but not by much.

 

 

 

 

Thanks @smurf. I’m probably only running two leagues in full (usually England and Scotland) with the top League from Spain, Italy, Germany, France, Holland, Brazil and Argentina as non-playable and full/largest database. Sound like maybe the i5 with better graphic may suffice. May even go i5 with 1050i to keep costs down 

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Unless the plan is to run large games in full detail the most affordable i5 for your budget should always be the go to option when factoring in FM use for a new laptop/pc purchase.

If it fits within your budget getting a 1060 graphics card will be money well spent.

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@Smurf

@Smurf 

This would has a nice graphics card 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-DM102T-ASUS-FX503VM-DM102T-Gaming-Laptop_2267825.html

But - you do need to upgrade your RAM to at least 16gb (8gb will be ok for now)

And I'd upgrade the SSD to at least 256gb  - but that can done at a later stage. 

 

This is also favourable - similarly you would need to add more RAM. But that would be the only minor change. 

The graphics card is ok. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html

Out of these two which one would you recommend to me? As I have no idea how I would add more RAM and SSD need to look into that. 

The other one is way out of my budget, so that's a no go.

I'd go with the 2nd one.

Adding more RAM is simple. You're laptop will come with a PDF manual that will describe the type of RAM that it has. 

You'd look it up and buy 8gb more of the same RAM. 

Then there's a hatch on the base of the laptop with a screw - unscrew it to open the hatch. Then you just slot the RAM in - if you're not comfortable with it then any tech shop like PC world etc would do it for you

 

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With you suggestion and tips in mind. I did some research of my own. I came up with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFGF7SN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&path=%2Fdp%2FB06XFGF7SN%2Fref%3Das_li_ss_tl&useRedirectOnSuccess=1&claim_type=EmailAddress&new_account=1&#customerReviews specs also listed in the comment. I couldnt find you suggestions without paying a lot of money for shipping it home. Where does this one stand, related to cities skyline and football manager. The last one is more important.

Screen Size 15.6 inches
Max Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080
Processor 3.8 GHz Core i7 Family
RAM 8 GB DDR4
Hard Drive 1000 GB Hybrid Drive
Graphics Coprocessor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Chipset Brand NVIDIA
Card Description Dedicated
Graphics Card Ram Size 4 GB
Number of USB 3.0 Ports 3
Average Battery Life (in hours) 7.5 hours
Brand Name Dell
Series i5577-7359BLK-PUS
Item model number i5577-7359BLK-PUS
Hardware Platform PC
Operating System Windows 10
Item Weight 5.66 pounds
Product Dimensions 10.4 x 15.7 x 1 inches
Item Dimensions L x W x H 10.43 x 15.7 x 0.99 inches
Color Black
Processor Brand Intel
Processor Count 4
Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Flash Memory Size 128.0
Hard Drive Interface Serial ATA
Hard Drive Rotational Speed 5400 RPM
Optical Drive Type None
Batteries 1 Lithium Polymer batteries required. (included)

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13 hours ago, Jorik112 said:

@Smurf

@Smurf 

This would has a nice graphics card 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX503VM-DM102T-ASUS-FX503VM-DM102T-Gaming-Laptop_2267825.html

But - you do need to upgrade your RAM to at least 16gb (8gb will be ok for now)

And I'd upgrade the SSD to at least 256gb  - but that can done at a later stage. 

 

This is also favourable - similarly you would need to add more RAM. But that would be the only minor change. 

The graphics card is ok. 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-1293-MSI-GL62M-7REX-1293UK_2142279.html

Out of these two which one would you recommend to me? As I have no idea how I would add more RAM and SSD need to look into that. 

The other one is way out of my budget, so that's a no go.

I'd go with the 2nd one.

Adding more RAM is simple. You're laptop will come with a PDF manual that will describe the type of RAM that it has. 

You'd look it up and buy 8gb more of the same RAM. 

Then there's a hatch on the base of the laptop with a screw - unscrew it to open the hatch. Then you just slot the RAM in - if you're not comfortable with it then any tech shop like PC world etc would do it for you

 

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With you suggestion and tips in mind. I did some research of my own. I came up with this: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B06XFGF7SN/ref=as_li_ss_tl?_encoding=UTF8&path=%2Fdp%2FB06XFGF7SN%2Fref%3Das_li_ss_tl&useRedirectOnSuccess=1&claim_type=EmailAddress&new_account=1&#customerReviews specs also listed in the comment. I couldnt find you suggestions without paying a lot of money for shipping it home. Where does this one stand, related to cities skyline and football manager. The last one is more important.


Screen Size 15.6 inches
Max Screen Resolution 1920 x 1080
Processor 3.8 GHz Core i7 Family
RAM 8 GB DDR4
Hard Drive 1000 GB Hybrid Drive
Graphics Coprocessor NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1050
Chipset Brand NVIDIA
Card Description Dedicated
Graphics Card Ram Size 4 GB
Number of USB 3.0 Ports 3
Average Battery Life (in hours) 7.5 hours
Brand Name Dell
Series i5577-7359BLK-PUS
Item model number i5577-7359BLK-PUS
Hardware Platform PC
Operating System Windows 10
Item Weight 5.66 pounds
Product Dimensions 10.4 x 15.7 x 1 inches
Item Dimensions L x W x H 10.43 x 15.7 x 0.99 inches
Color Black
Processor Brand Intel
Processor Count 4
Computer Memory Type DDR3 SDRAM
Flash Memory Size 128.0
Hard Drive Interface Serial ATA
Hard Drive Rotational Speed 5400 RPM
Optical Drive Type None
Batteries 1 Lithium Polymer batteries required. (included)

Seems fine.

 

12 hours ago, oi_oi_ginger_roy said:

£2k

Yeh, just bump up the RAM to 16 or 32gb - get the full SSD if you're saving stuff directly to your computer. I presume you might work off a server though. Anyway, a full SSD is great if working locally.

 

 

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10 minutes ago, Jorik112 said:

I bought the exact one you posted there - and it works perfectly for FM.

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5 hours ago, Smurf said:

I bought the exact one you posted there - and it works perfectly for FM. Im leaning towards the Lenovo one because i dont want to play 200 dollar import costs and i think with that 200 price difference the Lenovo must have the edge. Or is that a wrong thought. And would the dell one give me a better time?

the lenovo or the dell?

 

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I currently play FM16 on this laptop...
Acer Aspire  E1-570
Intel Core i3-3217U (1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache)
Intel HD Graphics 4000, upto 1972 MB Dynamic Video Memory
15.6" HD LED LCD
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB HDD
 

I have a budget of around £1,000 to buy myself the best laptop I've ever had. I will primarily use it to play Football Manager 18, Motorsport Manager and Euro Truck Simulator 2. In terms of FM18 I want a combination of world detail (ie leagues and database) and quality graphics. When it comes to the other two games it is more graphics I want a big upturn on. MM plays fine albeit slowly and in 2D mode only while ETS2 plays fine albeit 99% of the time on the lowest graphics settings. I want these games to look the part.

Here are a couple of laptops I have picked out and as I don't know a lot about the technical side of things, would like any suitable advice on the best option...

MSI GV72
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz
GTX1050TI with 4GB RAM
17.3" full HD screen
8GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive, 128GB SSD
(Currently £950 at Argos)

There is also a model with 16GB RAM memory but only 2GB RAM graphics card. What is the advantage of one over the other?

MSI GL62M
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz
GTX1050TI with 2GB RAM
15.6" full HD screen
16GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive
(Currently £1,000 at Argos)

Dell Inspiron
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz/3.8GHz turbo boost (which I think the two MSIs have also)
NVidia GeForce GTX1050 4GB
15.6" full HD screen
8GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive, 128GB SSD
(Currently £800 at Currys PC World, down from £900)

 

Thanks in advance. :)

Edit: I would prefer to buy physically from a shop but it is not a deal breaker if not.

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16 hours ago, Jorik112 said:

the lenovo or the dell?

 

Sorry didn't realise there was two - definitely the Dell that's exactly what I bought.

9 hours ago, Nobby_McDonald said:

I currently play FM16 on this laptop...
Acer Aspire  E1-570
Intel Core i3-3217U (1.8GHz, 3MB L3 cache)
Intel HD Graphics 4000, upto 1972 MB Dynamic Video Memory
15.6" HD LED LCD
4GB DDR3 Memory
500GB HDD
 

I have a budget of around £1,000 to buy myself the best laptop I've ever had. I will primarily use it to play Football Manager 18, Motorsport Manager and Euro Truck Simulator 2. In terms of FM18 I want a combination of world detail (ie leagues and database) and quality graphics. When it comes to the other two games it is more graphics I want a big upturn on. MM plays fine albeit slowly and in 2D mode only while ETS2 plays fine albeit 99% of the time on the lowest graphics settings. I want these games to look the part.

Here are a couple of laptops I have picked out and as I don't know a lot about the technical side of things, would like any suitable advice on the best option...

MSI GV72
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz
GTX1050TI with 4GB RAM
17.3" full HD screen
8GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive, 128GB SSD
(Currently £950 at Argos)

There is also a model with 16GB RAM memory but only 2GB RAM graphics card. What is the advantage of one over the other?

MSI GL62M
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz
GTX1050TI with 2GB RAM
15.6" full HD screen
16GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive
(Currently £1,000 at Argos)

Dell Inspiron
i7-7700HQ quad core 2.8GHz/3.8GHz turbo boost (which I think the two MSIs have also)
NVidia GeForce GTX1050 4GB
15.6" full HD screen
8GB RAM memory
1TB hard drive, 128GB SSD
(Currently £800 at Currys PC World, down from £900)

 

Thanks in advance. :)

Edit: I would prefer to buy physically from a shop but it is not a deal breaker if not.

The middle one has the extra ram - but a slightly worse graphics card.

The other 2 are basically the same specs. 

 

I'd go for one of the other 2 - and you can add RAM later if you want (not really necessary though at the moment).

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1 hour ago, Ajwellis said:

If you play other games go for the first one.

If it's only for FM then the 2nd one.

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Hi All

I am looking at purchasing a laptop off of Amazon (Vouchers for my birthday)

I have a budget of up to 1K, would anyone recommend anything off of there to play FM only and general web use?

I would like something as light as possible, as portability is key for me (take laptop to work everyday to play FM for 1 hour lunch)

Many thanks

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2 hours ago, Connor said:

Hi All

I am looking at purchasing a laptop off of Amazon (Vouchers for my birthday)

I have a budget of up to 1K, would anyone recommend anything off of there to play FM only and general web use?

I would like something as light as possible, as portability is key for me (take laptop to work everyday to play FM for 1 hour lunch)

Many thanks

Amazon having a really poor selection to be honest difficult to nav site etc.

I found this - it's certified refurbed - and it's pretty good.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07F42W14N/ref=sr_1_31?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1530280920&sr=1-31&refinements=p_36%3A-100000%2Cp_n_feature_fifteen_browse-bin%3A8322531031|8322530031%2Cp_n_style_browse-bin%3A182752031|182753031%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A213559031|213558031%2Cp_n_feature_five_browse-bin%3A7472683031|7472686031|7472682031|7472684031%2Cp_n_feature_browse-bin%3A1481783031|1481781031|1481782031

Weight is 2.21 kg - not sure if that's too heavy. But it's a powerful machine for that price.

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Thanks Smurf for your feedback, that is a bit too heavy

Am thinking I may have to wait and save and get something elsewhere

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Hi folks

Does anybody have any opinion on this number?

https://www.very.co.uk/acer-predator-helios-ph317-51-intel-core-i5nbsp8gb-ramnbsp1tb-hard-drive-amp-128gb-ssd-173-inch-full-hd-gaming-laptop-withnbspgeforce-gtx-1050tinbspgraphics-black/1600259751.prd?_requestid=176452&Ntt=gaming laptop

I’d literally only be buying the laptop for FM and word processing and won’t be playing any other games. So if I can get away with cheaper I will do gladly!

 

cheers

 

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3 hours ago, drawntowardsthewater said:

Hi folks

Does anybody have any opinion on this number?

https://www.very.co.uk/acer-predator-helios-ph317-51-intel-core-i5nbsp8gb-ramnbsp1tb-hard-drive-amp-128gb-ssd-173-inch-full-hd-gaming-laptop-withnbspgeforce-gtx-1050tinbspgraphics-black/1600259751.prd?_requestid=176452&Ntt=gaming laptop

I’d literally only be buying the laptop for FM and word processing and won’t be playing any other games. So if I can get away with cheaper I will do gladly!

 

cheers

 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/ZX553VD-DM970T-ASUS-ZX553VD-DM970T-Gaming-Laptop_2145528.html

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So I am stuck between a choice of two laptops. Both cost the same price.

 

1.  i7-8750H, 8GB RAM, GTX-1050

2. i7-6700K, 16GB RAM, GTX 980M

The latter has more RAM and a better graphics card.

I am not too bothered about the graphics card as I don't play any graphics-heavy games. Also, if I purchase the one with 8GB of RAM, I can easily purchase another 8GB of RAM bringing the total to 16GB anyway.

This ultimately comes down to a choice of CPU, which is proving difficult.

The i7-8750H offers six cores and a clock speed between 2.2 and 4.1GHz.

The i7-6700K offers four cores and a clock speed between 4.0 and 4.2GHz.

There doesn't seem to be much between the two in general, but I believe the i7-6700K has the edge due to the minimum clock speed being much higher.

The i7-8750H's six cores will give this an edge as a workstation, which is what I will also be using the laptop for, but I believe this difference is going to be minimal.

The i7-6700K should be much better for FM as FM only uses one core.

Therefore I should pick the 2nd laptop?

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I asked Neil Brock and he went and asked one of their staff and the reply is this

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I spoke to someone and this is the jist of what he and I came to:

For how the game uses threads - it will create as many threads for playing matches and shortlisting as you have cores (including hyperthreads).

But the performance you see varies on the setup for example with matches - Quick Matches for instance (so for loaded but non-managed in leagues) it's are so fast anyway it gets to the point where it doesn't make that much more difference having more cores.

If you use detail level to set more stuff to full match you'll start seeing betters gains for more cores, but of course will still be slower than by just not having the league loaded, or having it at a low detail level.

Similar sort of thing with shortlisting the more / leagues players you have loaded the more benefits you can potentially see with more cores, however this is probably more than offset by the general slowdown from having more stuff loading as there's still a large portion of the game which is single threaded

In regards to best processors, as a general guide we tend to suggest using the following comparison site as a good gauge of the performance capabilities - https://www.notebookcheck.net/Mobile-Processors-Benchmark-List.2436.0.html 

Basic rule of thumb is the higher it is on the list, the better it is. You can edit it to show processors for desktops and also those that are considered 'archived' via the restriction options. 

Hope some of this is of use. 

 

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Although the i7-8550H ranks higher than the 6700k - I'd still go for faster base speed, only for that having extra cores doesn't really have that much affect anyway.

RAM is also another factor in terms of speed, as someone said recently (can't remember who) but it can be quite heavy on RAM usage. 

Based on that - the 6700K would do it for me. 

 

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On 29/06/2018 at 08:35, Smurf said:

The middle one has the extra ram - but a slightly worse graphics card.

The other 2 are basically the same specs. 

 

I'd go for one of the other 2 - and you can add RAM later if you want (not really necessary though at the moment).

Thanks Smurf.

So I basically need to decide on my preferred balance between processor, memory and graphics card.

I've now also found this laptop, though it is really stretching my budget...
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-17C522-062-MSI-GP73-Leopard-8RE-062UK_2322970.html
From what you're saying in a post above the extra cores don't make any difference to FM18. Just the extra RAM will help and the extra graphics for the other games.

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Are there any recommended specs for Football Manager 2018? I can find minimum specs listed but not recommended.

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17 hours ago, Nobby_McDonald said:

Thanks Smurf.

So I basically need to decide on my preferred balance between processor, memory and graphics card.

I've now also found this laptop, though it is really stretching my budget...
https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-17C522-062-MSI-GP73-Leopard-8RE-062UK_2322970.html
From what you're saying in a post above the extra cores don't make any difference to FM18. Just the extra RAM will help and the extra graphics for the other games.

Yeh looks great. 

 

15 hours ago, Nobby_McDonald said:

Are there any recommended specs for Football Manager 2018? I can find minimum specs listed but not recommended.

No, I wouldn't imagine so. As everyone plays the game differently, I might like to have 20 leauges, large database loaded and play with all graphic details on, so my recommeneded setup would be a i7-7700K, 1080gtx, 16gb RAM.

You might prefer to play 5 leagues, small database with all graphics on low - so you'd probably go for a i5-8650u, no graphics card, and 8gb RAM.

 

Basically, what's recommended for you may not be for someone else.

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IIRC SI used to publish recommended spec’s on the box in the CM days, not sure why they stopped doing that as knowing what it takes to run all leagues in full detail with max graphic settings and everything in the database loaded might prove helpful for some.

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