Jirki88 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 And why exactly don't Ramsey have a rating? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 take 1 minute and try it yourself, i just did. would only let me start from this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 it reached 0 and disappeared Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 an empty screenshot? Yes, I want an empty screenshot of Arsenal's landmarks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 i just did. would only let me start from this season. did you have the england and brazil leagues selected? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I still want a screenshot. If there is none, a blatant cheater. He's a cheater anyway. The player ratings screen proves it. Look at the Arsenal players' fitness ratings. He'd lowered all of their fitness using an editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yes, I want an empty screenshot of Arsenal's landmarks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 yes i just selected brazilian and english leagues, chose to manage fluminese and it stated this season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
xonnk Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Hahaha, that's so obvious it was cheating. The screenshot where he showed the line-ups, as you can see most of the substitutions were made on 45th 59th and 75th minutes. Now by my over 10 years of playing manager games, i have yet to see an AI manager making 3-4-5 substitutions at once, and in opposite i, as human do it a lot because i don't really have nerves to go to the tactics every 2 minutes, which AI managers seem to do. Shame on trying to get glory with a cheat, a lot immature. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 He's a cheater anyway. The player ratings screen proves it. Look at the Arsenal players' fitness ratings. He'd lowered all of their fitness using an editor. i didn't. i never have used any editor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bandi15 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Who are those Arsenal players anyway? They are not their youth players except Ramsey. I don't think they can be regens either, if you're playing in the past. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 and now we can prove it is faked because it is december and there are no landmarks made even though the season has started. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 no season has started, it is the december before th season starts Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 the december before the season starts? what do they have an extended christmas holiday? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 they don't have any games for 8 or so months Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Brazil leagues start in February... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 there is as much truth in this as andy gray commentating on a liverpool game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 try it for yourselves brazil league and english league all manageable teams, you can start dec 07 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 yeah but if it is the brazilian league then it would make more sense to start in december 08. otherwise you would be going back a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 and now we can prove it is faked because it is december and there are no landmarks made even though the season has started. The December thing is fine, as the Brazil league allows starting in December 07. Here it is on mine, just starting a new game now: http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/1278/12212008222442us9.jpg And the landmarks thing is fine. Here is my Arsenal landmarks page: http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3801/12212008222110wg9.jpg Who are those Arsenal players anyway? They are not their youth players except Ramsey. I don't think they can be regens either, if you're playing in the past. If an AI team doesn't have enough actual players fit, it creates "random" players just for the match. In this case, what the OP has done is lowered the condition of all Arsenal's players, apart from Ramsey. Hence why you see players subbed off all over the place with conditions below pretty much what any of us will see for ANY SINGLE non-injured players in a match. Including both goalkeepers, who somehow managed to remarkably reduce their conditions. This is a blatant cheat, just not for the reasons Kopitelewis is latching onto. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 yeah, back a season so that i have time for my players to gel Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopitelewis Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 so basically walrus i am just thick? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat Your goalkeeper came on for 15 minutes, stood in a box and still has a rating of 67? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 yeah but if it is the brazilian league then it would make more sense to start in december 08. otherwise you would be going back a season. When I managed in Brazil in FM08 I chose the earlier of the two Brazilian starting dates, too, because I wanted to start at the start of the (real-life) current season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aman201 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I don't exactly see how he's cheated here, he's proven he didn't add manager so he clearly played a "real" Arsenal team. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Show us Arsenal's fixtues please. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 I don't exactly see how he's cheated here, he's proven he didn't add manager so he clearly played a "real" Arsenal team. Adding a manager isn't the only way to cheat. Check the editor forum. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliff7197 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Looks legit enough to me. But then Hull City first team V Arsenal U18s is hardly a fair match up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChewyFun Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 come on Cityull - prove the doubters wrong! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
varun↕§☺☻♫ Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Yea, if you select the Brazilian league then you have an option of starting the game in Dec (I think) 2007. The game doesn't go back in time i.e. Hull won't be in the Championship and there aren't any league games. You can play friendlies during that time and sign players and give them time to settle in. Seriously, so many people didn't know about this?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lynxboy Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 The worrying aspect is the fitness of the arsenal players, it doesn't make sense that they are all so low, rarely does a player drop below 70% after starting with 95-100% and for the goalkeeper and defence to be so low it's all a bit fishy. If the players were really unfit to start the AI wouldn't pick them simple as. How the ENTIRE arsenal squad could be so low not to be picked over these guys reminds me of what my friends little brother does, program called FMRTE and a function called Destroy Team, sets all players to 50% Fitness and Excersise and Very Poor morale. Combine this with Cousi/Geovanni on 29 for Positions and you could 18-0 Barcelona. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cardiovascular Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Show us Arsenal's fixtures then their U18's Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 here you go mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 ok dreaded walrus, prove it. i can provide any info you want, i swear i did nothing to cheat If you upload the .pkm file of the match (say, to rapidshare or something), then we can watch the replay of the match. If you haven't edited their conditions down, then they will not be starting the match with super-low conditions. Which, seeing how I have not had a single match in ages where my keeper has had a condition below 90 (not to mention coming on as a sub for another tired goalie for 15 minutes and somehow managing to lose ~30 condition), I doubt will be the case. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Show us Arsenal's fixtures then their U18's their u18's? as in players or fixtures? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 This is stupid, stop calling him a cheater and congratulate him, even if it was against Arsenals 1-2-3-4-77-78 79th team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Looks legit enough to me. But then Hull City first team V Arsenal U18s is hardly a fair match up! Did you see the player rating screen showing the player conditions? That seems like a cast-iron case of editing to me. Anyway, we'll see if he uploads the .pkm so we can watch it ourselves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drmanley Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 This is possible without an editor. Today I started a game in Iceland in December 2007. When I looked at the Prem table in Dec 07 there had been no games played up to that date. Also I've played another game where I started in June 08 some of the Prem teams had already played a couple of friendlies but most of the players that had appeared were greys and weren't in any of the squads. I'd just loaded some logos in to the game and thought I'd broken it at first! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 hope this is right Hull_v_Arsenal.pkm (32 KB) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cityull Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 don't think that is right though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB11 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Why are people so bothered if it was a cheat or not? Who cares... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 hope this is rightHull_v_Arsenal.pkm (32 KB) I'll watch it now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmay07 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Why are people so bothered if it was a cheat or not? Who cares... I don't mind other people cheating in their game if they want. I have nothing against it at all. But there's no point in coming and boasting on a forum about a result if you have cheated in order to obtain said result. Anyway, I'm about to watch the .pkm now, so we'll see. If there was no cheating, then it was a hell of an achievement. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game they've had no games and no friendlys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
joshmay07 Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 seems ligit to me bar the 66% fitness Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 number 1 all arsenal players 66 fitness at start of game Yep. proof. Either this is editor-work, or a major bug. The only one player who isn't 67 fitness is Aaron Ramsey, as mentioned previously. (He's also the only player that lasted the whole match, and STILL had the highest fitness by the end of it. ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreaded Walrus Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Also, while I haven't fully watched the match, the ultimate proof would be if you could upload save data. That would allow people to analyse the fitness of the other players, and so on. Of course, it would take a while to upload save data, so obviously it's up to you if you want to. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
peter-evo Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Also, while I haven't fully watched the match, the ultimate proof would be if you could upload save data. That would allow people to analyse the fitness of the other players, and so on. Of course, it would take a while to upload save data, so obviously it's up to you if you want to. Why should he have to go through all this, at the end of the day he won. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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