Lobster123 Posted May 20, 2023 Share Posted May 20, 2023 @knap Is the WOF 4231 IF P102 EC CC tactic rated as high as it is in the HUB test 23.2? I see it is last on the list ? But the tests results are very high. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 20, 2023 Author Share Posted May 20, 2023 @Lobster123 HUB Test is 828 games so tactic will have to be consistent, but there will still be an element of RNG. Tested it with Havant today and P106 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 8 hours ago, kandersson said: @vitoco77 for DM's I tend to favor passing, vision, positioning, work rate and stamina. Though always remember that pace and acceleration are very important for every position and every tactic in FM . Tchouameni and Camavinga are good examples of ideal DM's for a top club. These attributes you write, apply to the 2 DMs right? Or just the more attacking one? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vengeancefold Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 I'm using WOF424P103ECFA my top concerns is my team have lol of chance but they can't score do yo have any suggestion to change in terms of improve scoring Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 17 hours ago, kandersson said: @vitoco77 for DM's I tend to favor passing, vision, positioning, work rate and stamina. Though always remember that pace and acceleration are very important for every position and every tactic in FM . Tchouameni and Camavinga are good examples of ideal DM's for a top club. After the 2 nice games I showed earlier, I played away against Wolves and i lost 3-1. I dont get this tac..... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 @vitoco77 Do they still have Traore 20 pace and acceleration Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) FM 23 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2023 - Google Sheets KEY ATTRIBTES GK Handling Reflexes (Acceleration Agility Decisions- Train) DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions ( Stamina Agility Acceleration - Train) DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping (Decisions Marking - Train) WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions (Stamina Acceleration - Train) DM Acceleration Pace Decisions (Agility Decisions Tackling - Train) MRL Acceleration Pace (Agility Acceleration - Train) MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing (Decisions Stamina - Train) AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling (Stamina Pace Acceleration - Train) AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ( Stamina Agility Acceleration- Train) ST Acceleration Pace (Finishing Acceleration Heading Jumping - Train) GENERAL Acceleration Pace Anticipation Agility Balance Concentration work rate Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top MU/Arsenal CA 160 top 4-10 Spurs 140 10 - 15 CA 120 15 -20 relegation Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use451/ 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Remove counter press counter Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Change mentality cautious full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU TRAINING SCHEDUES CADONI TRAINING TRAINING - Google Drive Edited May 30, 2023 by knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 @knap Do you have a SKEW tactic with IWs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 @monsalai Testing this atm Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
monsalai Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 1 minute ago, knap said: @monsalai Testing this atm Oh my days! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 3 hours ago, vitoco77 said: After the 2 nice games I showed earlier, I played away against Wolves and i lost 3-1. I dont get this tac..... Maybe try another tactic, there are a lot in this thread I think with the right players and an adequate pre-season (decent team cohesion and tactic familiarity, good morale and good form after easy friendlies, new signings having some time to gel) this tactic can be very effective at any level. There might be more effective shapes and formations like 424 or wide diamond though personally I enjoy the playing style of this while also getting good results. Losing games away can and will happen Edited May 21, 2023 by kandersson Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vegi Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, knap said: FM 23 TACTICS GOOGLE DOCS Knap FM2023 - Google Sheets KEY ATTRIBTES GK Handling Reflexes (Acceleration Agility Decisions- Train) DRL Acceleration Pace Decisions ( Stamina Agility Acceleration - Train) DC Decisions Positioning Marking Acceleration Pace Strength Jumping (Decisions Marking - Train) WBRL Acceleration Pace Decisions (Stamina Acceleration - Train) DM Acceleration Pace Decisions (Agility Decisions Tackling - Train) MRL Acceleration Pace (Agility Acceleration - Train) MC Acceleration Pace Vision Passing (Decisions Stamina - Train) AMRL Acceleration Pace Dribbling (Stamina Pace Acceleration - Train) AMC Acceleration Pace Vision ( Stamina Agility Acceleration- Train) ST Acceleration Pace (Finishing Acceleration Heading Jumping - Train) GENERAL Acceleration Pace Anticipation Agility Balance Concentration work rate Guide to test results PSG Elite Man City / Lpool top MU/Arsenal CA 160 top 4-10 Spurs 140 10 - 15 CA 120 15 -20 relegation Attribute_Weights.pdf.pdf35.17 kB · 59 downloads Cadoni recommended shouts or use AM for Shouts FM22 Shouts - Encourage (0-0; 20 min mark) - Calm Down (win 1-0 after you scoring) - Demand More (draw) - Praise (win by 2 goals) - Berate (loss by 2 goals AWAY GAMES SUS With regard to Away games it depends upon your own risk factor. I am gung ho and prefer to attack and perhaps win 1 game in 3. If isk adverse then use a defensive tactic and perhaps draw all 3 games. As a defensive formation I would use451/ 4141 as it has a DM and protects wings. The LOE can be adjusted with or without DL adjustments. The simple answer is just drop LOE.. For a SUS these are ideas to use. Remove counter press counter Remove pass into space Stop WB runs by going to defend or no nonsense FB Change mentality cautious full SUS would be to regroup and hold shape I tend to judge what to use by how the game is progressing as you may just to want to control game rather than a full SU TRAINING SCHEDUES EBTS v22.1 (1).fmf19.43 kB · 41 downloads CADONI TRAINING TRAINING - Google Drive Perhaps smart to update EBTS with the latest version: https://www.dropbox.com/s/80v5h01hagx93g3/EBTS23.fmf?dl=0 Source: Edited May 21, 2023 by Vegi Added source Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 2 hours ago, knap said: @vitoco77 Do they still have Traore 20 pace and acceleration my game is 2035, i think his grandson plays for other team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 @Vegi Not seen that, will watch later. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 @vitoco77 There is a version with WBs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 21, 2023 Author Share Posted May 21, 2023 ME 23.2 WOF 4231 IW Skew MC P102 ME23.2WOFKnap4231IWSkewMCP102.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharp1903 Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 On 22.04.2023 at 00:41, alpercelaleknci said: hangi taktik kardeşim link atabilir misin @Sharp1903 @knap ME23.V2BEOWULFKnapBALSP424IFVOLP250CHELMSFORDP109.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
glenjamin Posted May 21, 2023 Share Posted May 21, 2023 Would love to see a 352 again Knap! 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Shonte Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 (edited) Using the Pep tactic with my Liverpool team a few seasons in. Love tactics where I can get one striker scoring lots of goals, look at Vlahovic on Jan 1st! On PS5 btw Edited May 22, 2023 by Shonte 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sully1998 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 @knap do we have any 3-5-2 tactics atm for my Lincoln save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 @Sully1998 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 Using 3241 Argus Pep in a classic MLS save with expansion team St. Louis City - they enter the league in 2023 which means I had a full year with no matches only dedicated to trades, tansfers and squad building Bossed the league with the lowest team payroll: 6M euros per year! My regular MLS squad (no designated players or superstars) 'Star' striker Thomas Amang signed from US minor leagues: Great physical attributes and not much else... Still managed one goal per game despite underperforming his XG, and somehow keeping his form with Cameroon 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 ME 23.2 ARGUS PEP Libero 3241 MC P101 ME23.2ARGUSKnapPEPLibero3241MCP101.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pedrocastro69 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 hey @knap which 4231 is better, with AM or with SS? I'm talking about the assymetric one Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 @pedrocastro69 If you mean skew 4231 probably last one MC P102. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 22, 2023 Author Share Posted May 22, 2023 ME 23.2 ARGUS PEP 3241 WCB MC P105 ME23.2ARGUSKnapPEPWBS3241MCP105.fmf 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 LOWER LEAGUE TEST Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vitoco77 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 19 hours ago, kandersson said: Using 3241 Argus Pep in a classic MLS save with expansion team St. Louis City - they enter the league in 2023 which means I had a full year with no matches only dedicated to trades, tansfers and squad building Bossed the league with the lowest team payroll: 6M euros per year! My regular MLS squad (no designated players or superstars) 'Star' striker Thomas Amang signed from US minor leagues: Great physical attributes and not much else... Still managed one goal per game despite underperforming his XG, and somehow keeping his form with Cameroon Have you tried the new version with Libero? Do you think defensively its better, or the older original version is better? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 @vitoco77 I was trying to get a push up into midfield for a passing option 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stian Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, knap said: LOWER LEAGUE TEST @knap Just to verify, this is ID - 231116 on google docs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 @stian Yep Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 3 hours ago, vitoco77 said: Have you tried the new version with Libero? Do you think defensively its better, or the older original version is better? Haven't tried that one. I'm intrigued by the WCB version though I haven't tried that either Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raymubdo21 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 I'm using the Pep argus one and it's been a belter for my Man City save, the WCB version looks tempting to use for sure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 18 hours ago, knap said: ME 23.2 ARGUS PEP 3241 WCB MC P105 ME23.2ARGUSKnapPEPWBS3241MCP105.fmf 47.25 kB · 196 downloads Hello Knap, do you think this or the one with 3 BPDs will work with ME 23.1 or do you have another version? I have disabled update on Steam and been playing offline since the December update so as not to ruin my save. Or do you recommend that I update to the latest ME so as to enjoy this tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 23, 2023 Author Share Posted May 23, 2023 @Samuel777 Some tactics work in both MEs. ME 23.2 is slightly harder. You will have to try them in 23.1as I have no way of testing. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Samuel777 Posted May 23, 2023 Share Posted May 23, 2023 15 minutes ago, knap said: @Samuel777 Some tactics work in both MEs. ME 23.2 is slightly harder. You will have to try them in 23.1as I have no way of testing. Thanks for the quick response Knap. I will give it a try as I want my team to play some sexy football lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canbuorgh Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 22/05/2023 at 23:25, knap said: ME 23.2 ARGUS PEP 3241 WCB MC P105 ME23.2ARGUSKnapPEPWBS3241MCP105.fmf 47.25 kB · 451 downloads @knap do you think this would work well with IWs and/or IFs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 @Canbuorgh I have tried them but WS was best option. I am still tweaking with different ideas. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fehleinkauf Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Am 23.10.2018 um 14:30 schrieb knap: CA 160 top 4-10 Spurs 140 10 - 15 CA 120 15 -20 relegation Hey @knap, could you in some way explain this? What about 1-3 Teams if 4-10 is Top Tactics? And what do MU/ Arsenal or Spurs have to do in this overview? Thanks a lot! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 @fehleinkauf The top AI team is CA 180 so the CA 160 test team is not best in league. If you look at test league, a top tactic, a top tactic finished 3rd 11th and 15th. Test results can therefore be split as Top, not covered in test, sub top, mid table and underdog. Pool and City are top and MU Arsenal Spurs sub top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaDuy Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 On 22/05/2023 at 22:07, kandersson said: Using 3241 Argus Pep in a classic MLS save with expansion team St. Louis City - they enter the league in 2023 which means I had a full year with no matches only dedicated to trades, tansfers and squad building Bossed the league with the lowest team payroll: 6M euros per year! My regular MLS squad (no designated players or superstars) 'Star' striker Thomas Amang signed from US minor leagues: Great physical attributes and not much else... Still managed one goal per game despite underperforming his XG, and somehow keeping his form with Cameroon hey mate, can you share your tactics?thank you so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kandersson Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 1 hour ago, aquaDuy said: hey mate, can you share your tactics?thank you so much Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bospiotrek Posted May 24, 2023 Share Posted May 24, 2023 Hi Mister @knap could you please recommend tactic 442 for subtop underdog teams. Thank you in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 24, 2023 Author Share Posted May 24, 2023 @bospiotrek TBH a 424 or Wide Diamond will perform better. You can try Sloe Gin which has a double pivot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan1majonez Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 19 hours ago, knap said: @fehleinkauf Najlepszy zespół AI to CA 180, więc zespół testowy CA 160 nie jest najlepszy w lidze. Jeśli spojrzysz na ligę testową, najlepsza taktyka, najlepsza taktyka zajęła 3. miejsce, 11. i 15. miejsce. Wyniki testów można zatem podzielić na Top, nieuwzględnione w teście, Sub Top, Mid Table i Underdog. Pool i City są na szczycie, a MU Arsenal Spurs na drugim miejscu. So for Mu, Arsenal the Best tactics will be from Hub Test best CA 160? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 @pan1majonez Yes that is the logic of looking at the test results. I would also look at the best overall tactics, as they tend to be near top in all categories. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 @pan1majonez PS - You can also use a CA 120 tactic for away or hard games and CA 160 for home Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pan1majonez Posted May 25, 2023 Share Posted May 25, 2023 1 hour ago, knap said: @pan1majonez PS - Możesz także użyć taktyki CA 120 do gier wyjazdowych lub ciężkich i CA 160 do gry u siebie Thank You Very much Mister Knap Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted May 25, 2023 Author Share Posted May 25, 2023 City key attributes acceleration agility pace Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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