amdaly Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 hi knap using this tactic with liverpool 19 games in won 18 drew 1 in the league won all champs league matches so far against psv juventus and standard into league cup semi final the only thing is fernando torres has only got 3 goals and steven gerrards performances have been poor my team is Reina, Dossena, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Higuain, Mascherano, Riera, Gerrard, Defour, Torres Thanks for the tactic thread but is there anyway torres will score more Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 hi knap using this tactic with liverpool 19 games in won 18 drew 1 in the league won all champs league matches so far against psv juventus and standard into league cup semi final the only thing is fernando torres has only got 3 goals and steven gerrards performances have been poor my team is Reina, Dossena, Carragher, Agger, Arbeloa, Higuain, Mascherano, Riera, Gerrard, Defour, Torres Thanks for the tactic thread but is there anyway torres will score more Which tactic you use? 4-4-2 tweaked DLV196pst? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Serge Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 cheers knap will let you know how the tactic works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Serge Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 it seems that the strikers hardly score in this formation all my goals are coming from nasri and toure who score in every game, the strikers have scored 3 goals in 9 games compared to 13 from nasri and toure Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 it seems that the strikers hardly score in this formation all my goals are coming from nasri and toure who score in every game, the strikers have scored 3 goals in 9 games compared to 13 from nasri and toure you use the tweaked 4-4-2? v1 96pts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 dextra I will let you sort the transfers out first. Apart from 9 EPLs with Spurs, Oxford was the most enjoyable FM08 team ripping up the BSP, great fun. I will look at striker issue but have no noticed with the 442. In FM08 Torres tended to prefer FWD runs often and RWB Often. Wijnand Still testing this version but played 2 won 2 games with Spurs so hoping will work with mid table (I wish). opul I don't do defence, just tend to take may chances on staying attacking, so if you find a good SUS provide a link. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 18, 2008 Author Share Posted November 18, 2008 Wijnand The tactic looks stable with a better defence but attack lost its edge. Will try some minor tweaks to sort out attack before making it available.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 Look forward to it. Using your 442 to good effect currently. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. president Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 played 11 games with man u. 5 wins, 3 draws, 3 loses. i used "GKnap4-4-2_Attackingteam9" tactic. scored only 15 goals. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 18, 2008 Share Posted November 18, 2008 played 11 games with man u. 5 wins, 3 draws, 3 loses. i used "GKnap4-4-2_Attackingteam9" tactic. scored only 15 goals. Try the tweaked 4-4-2? v1 96pts. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hooligan Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 hi knap there are two tipes of the 4-4-2 or one??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 2 basic types based on team instructions. The only minor modification is with closing down. The next version is almost ready but still making minor tweaks and starting to test in BSP to check if appropriate for lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mambo5 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 2 basic types based on team instructions. The only minor modification is with closing down. The next version is almost ready but still making minor tweaks and starting to test in BSP to check if appropriate for lower leagues. Good work knap, cheers m8 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vcys86 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I saw there is so many links here...Confusing.... can anyone show me which is the latest release? cheers~~ Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcliffsmith Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Knap, used your 4321 tactic in 08 and it was by far the best. Am now trying your Tweaked 442 with Cardiff. First game got me a 3-1 home win against Derby. That was my first win in seven! Good work. Do you have a defend lead version? I just stopped the forward runs when I was 3-0 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. president Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 yeah, there are too many links. what is the link for "tweaked 4-4-2 v1 96pts"? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcliffsmith Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Knap, used your 4321 tactic in 08 and it was by far the best. Am now trying your Tweaked 442 with Cardiff. First game got me a 3-1 home win against Derby. That was my first win in seven! Good work. Do you have a defend lead version? I just stopped the forward runs when I was 3-0 up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcliffsmith Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 yeah, there are too many links. what is the link for "tweaked 4-4-2 v1 96pts"? Its the last one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benno41 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 knap i am still using your 4-3-2-1 from 08 with rusden and i am still getting some good results p6 w5 l1, but the defence dont look no where as compact in the 08 version any suggestion to make the defence tighter. By the way, i went all the way to the premiership with aldershot on the 08 tactic, that was a great tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr. president Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Try the tweaked 4-4-2? v1 96pts. Its the last one. can't find it. it's the same tactic i have. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
timcliffsmith Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 can't find it. it's the same tactic i have. Well, you've already got it then. You only see the 96pts bit after you import it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Had a game crash setting up Oxford for lower league testing. Tim Removing fwd runs is usually all I would do, although if FM08 with a top team I found pushing right up worked. benno Are you using the 4321 with the DM making a 41221? I will be looking at this formation and a few others once the 442 is sorted. Atm I have a 97pt 98pt (zonal marking) and 100pt (man marking) 442, just trying to decide which to release. The best no arrow formation I had in FM08 was a 99pt (442), so not sure I can push a formation beyond 100pts in FM09. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-vitalic- Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Please release soon, shipping goals at the back with 442 attack modified. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 I will try to provide a link before the Game. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juan Yenkins Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Didn't mean to post anything :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimjimma Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Knap, What do you do for opposition instuctions can i ask? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 I do not use OIs and in general Ass man gives teamtalks and attends press conferences. If you get them right its probably an advantage. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
burnum Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 @ Knap: Could you post a link to your new tactics (the 98 points tactics from the screenshot above)??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 This tactic is using man marking 3 Free roles and a large slug of creative freedom. http://files.filefront.com/GKnap442DLCF3FRMAN100PTS+9tac/;12401990;/fileinfo.html Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-vitalic- Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Your push up trick seems to work quite well btw, I've picked up a few 1-0 wins which I wasn't doing before. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 This tactic is using zonal marking 3 Free roles and creative freedom http://files.filefront.com/GKnap442DLCF3FRZONAL98PTS9tac/;12402080;/fileinfo.html Usually either compress play and snuff out game or catch them offside. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 This tactic is using zonal marking 3 Free roles and creative freedomhttp://files.filefront.com/GKnap442DLCF3FRZONAL98PTS9tac/;12402080;/fileinfo.html Usually either compress play and snuff out game or catch them offside. Which one of the two you just posted would you advise i use for my Real Madrid team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 Either just depends on what marking system you prefer and maybe quality of players. I did not have an issue with man marking on fullbacks in BSP in FM08 but in FM09 I'm testing with Chelsea and Spurs and have yet to test with Oxford in lower leagues. I'm a bit more concerned about creative freedom and free roles in lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
-vitalic- Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Knap what is usually your approach playing vs. top sides, or sides slightly better than you. Obviously dropping the d-line is going to invite pressure but you don't want to be exploited by the pace of the opposition strikers. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 I always just play my game (no tweak) let the opposition worry about my players, which is the key part getting the best players, the tactics are just a platform. View based on FM08 is that keeping the same tactics helps in the long run, and changing tactics for each game leads to a disjointed season. Even with Chelsea I dropped DL to current position, and will look at this when playing Oxford. As you can see from tables posted the tactics, are not just one off results they consistantly make high pts totals, but with a very good squad. As far as I am aware the original tactics are working at BSP level. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nen Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Sensational tactics! At last I managed to do something decent for Barcelona but the Madrid what I've found it very difficult. win the league and cup and Champions League semifinalist in Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atommo75 Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 I will give them a try knap Im trying to fit marcelo ,modric, bently, polombo, baloletti and arshavin all in my team so been trying other stuff out ok but yours seem more consistant. been using Marcelo==polombo==modric==bently =======Balotteli==arshavin===== Modric playing poor Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wanster Posted November 19, 2008 Share Posted November 19, 2008 Which tactic you recommend me to use? Usually my first XI is Cech Ivanovic-David Luiz-Terry-A.Cole J.Cole-Lampard-Essien-Kalou Balotelli-Huntelaar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 19, 2008 Author Share Posted November 19, 2008 I prefer zonal 98pts but set up the same as 100pts apart from marking but all should work for Chelsea. I'm chopping and changing tactics with Spurs just trying to see how things work rather than results but again my preference is zonal, and is the tactic I'm still trying to improve. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dexta200 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Right been using knap's 4-4-2 with Oxford and first season Predicted 4th and with no money to spend just loans and freebies i ended up finishing the season like this... Also winning the FA Trophy 2-1 against AFC Wimbledon and Conference Cup 2-0 against Stevenage even managed a 4th Round FA Cup display against QPR taking them to a replay and eventually losing but still was impressed, Beating Hereford and Crystal Palace along the way! Hopefully can carry on into 2nd season Cheers knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Either just depends on what marking system you prefer and maybe quality of players. I did not have an issue with man marking on fullbacks in BSP in FM08 but in FM09 I'm testing with Chelsea and Spurs and have yet to test with Oxford in lower leagues.I'm a bit more concerned about creative freedom and free roles in lower leagues. For average and lower league team I prefer the tweaked 442 DLV1 96PST, right? Free roles are for top teams. Any one test the zonal mark 98pst and man mark100 pst with a lower league team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wijnand fens Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Right been using knap's 4-4-2 with Oxford and first season Predicted 4th and with no money to spend just loans and freebies i ended up finishing the season like this... Also winning the FA Trophy 2-1 against AFC Wimbledon and Conference Cup 2-0 against Stevenage even managed a 4th Round FA Cup display against QPR taking them to a replay and eventually losing but still was impressed, Beating Hereford and Crystal Palace along the way! Hopefully can carry on into 2nd season Cheers knap! Which tactic you use?? DLV1 96 pts , zonal marking 98 PTS or the MAN MArking 100PTS??? Please let me know. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vcys86 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 knap, which tactic is best for Man Utd? there are so many links there.. i have no idae which link is for which tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
opul Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 use the last uploaded tactic for ManU, with zonal marking... should be called 99 pts I think. works well for me, also the tweaked 442 from this 2nd page (further up) worked quite well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tottenham2k7 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 wow this is a great tactic for my spurs team Thanks mannn =D Im using Gomes Corluka Woodgate King Bale Bentley Modric/Valencia Jenas/Martinez N'Zogbia Bent Pavlyuchenko Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Wijnand I've started with Oxford with the 98pts Zonal, but dexta would have used the original 442 team tactics. I will try to group the 442 tactics in another thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
opul Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 after quite a few games with ManU (442 zonal), I am getting a few unfortunate losses... biggest problem is the attacking MC, who regularely gets ratings below 6, no matter who I use. Might try to tweak that one a bit. another question arises with corners... while I win a LOT of corners I haven't managed to score from a single one. seems like a DC cannot hit the goal with a free header on the 5yard box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted November 20, 2008 Author Share Posted November 20, 2008 Corners are down from FM08 but you should get about 10 a season. If you find a better corner routine let me know. I will have a look into MC but if you find a good adjustment I can retest. I will also try to provide another link apart from filefront. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
atommo75 Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 used the tactic zonal in 3 matches and lost 2 drawn 1 1-0 1-1 1-0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudubrdx Posted November 20, 2008 Share Posted November 20, 2008 Zonal tactic is definitely not the best on my savegame Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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