McNelis Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Ok i've played on a old laptop for years and never played in 3D. So i'm buying a PC soon. and i'm stuck between these 2 options from Argos. OPTION 1 Intel Core i3 540M. 4GB DDR3 RAM. 500GB SATA hard drive. Dedicated nVIDIA GeForce 310 graphics card with 512MB memory. Wireless/WiFi enabled. Microsoft Windows 7 Premium. € 599 OPTION 2 Intel Core i3 540M. Processor speed 3.6GHz. 3GB DDR3 RAM. 500GB SATA hard drive. Dedicated Intel with HD graphics card. 1 HDMI port. Microsoft Windows 7 Premium. € 599 (With 20'' Monitor, although i have a old monitor already) Which would be the fastest? Which Graphics card is the best? Why? What AMD Athlon processor would match or better the intel i3? Which is better for FM, Intel, AMD? Why? Thanks in advance Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The only processor who is comparable would be like a T9800 dual core 2.5 ghz Or maybe a AMD Athlon x3 2 ghz. And i would go for number one... Intel HD integrated sucks.. Dedicated memory on graphic cards is much better than a non dedicated + Intel HD is a low end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The first option would perform better, but not by a whole lot. The graphics card is better. Intel graphics cards aren't good for gaming. The extra 1GB of ram will help as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The dedicated nVIDIA graphics card stands out for me. BUT - I wouldn't purchase from Argos. Why not try an online option? Dabs.com is my recommendation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 1:) The first one is s slightly better because it has a very slow grx card while the second one has an extremely slow gfx card. 2.) Depends on the amount of money you are willing to pay. Nvidia gtx 460 is nice in its price range. In all the other price ranges ATI dominates. 3.) Something like an athlon II x3 should be comparable. 4.) If you have a lot of money then Intels I7 processors win, in all the other price ranges AMD has a better price performance ratio. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rovers-chris109 Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Both should run the game well. Option 1 would be better for the 3D match engine. Take into consideration the manufacturuer. One machine may be much more reliable and longer lasting than the other. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dazbowski Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/146264-The-Official-System-Specs-Thread This thread has already been set up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
StevoRobbo Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Try THIS................. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The answer is pretty much straightforward: Buy the fastest processor and as much memory as you can, within your budget. Obviously, a beefy Core i7 would be the better choice processor, (yes, FM do use all 4 cores - not all the time, but certainly when the processing needs calls for it) - and 4Gb of RAM should set you up well. The graphic card is not important; a decent midrange card can handle what FM has of 3D graphics without problems. When I switched from my old desktop (which was really old), to a laptop, I could finally play all leauges and with a huge database, and play it fast. Granted, the laptop in question is the king of laptops, with a desktop Core i7 processor and desktop motherboard/chipset inside it, and with 6Gb of RAM and a SSD... the processing is ultra fast, and loading a game, even with all leagues and a huge database, is finished in a couple of seconds because of the SSD. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNelis Posted October 4, 2010 Author Share Posted October 4, 2010 thomit when you say all leagues how many do you mean? how many do you think my option 1 could play? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 I mean absolutely all leagues that the game has - all countries, all leagues, playable. That is the way I like to play. I don't know how many leagues you could do with a Core i3 and 4Gb RAM - it also depends on what speed you would consider be ok - the more leagues you play, and the bigger the database, the slower the game will move forward. But I would imagine you would have to constraint yourself quite a bit with a Core i3 - a Core i5 would be better, because of the Turboboost it has. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaYa Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 go for a CPU core i5 or even i7 if you can pay it... and a SSD (solid state drive/disk) would make a huge difference too (but toooo expensive) edit: in all cases, take a separate graphics card, even if it's the cheapest one, it is a must, otherwise the CPU has to do all that work too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thomit Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 The SSD makes a difference only in the actual loading and saving of the game, it doesn't add much to the speed once you have the game running - a little, but not much. It makes much more sense to put the bulk of the budget in processor and RAM, as SSD's are still rather expensive. But, once you have a decent processor, and the rest of the hardware is decent too, a SSD is the best upgrade you can buy for your computer. I could never go back to ordinary spin disks now, after I've had a SSD for a year or so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bradmonk Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Option 1. Purely because its not an Intel graphics card and lord knows how crap they are... but I dont really shout for Nvidia either. I always plump for AMD/ATI Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Nothing in option 2 is better than option 1. So 1 for me. And it will run approx 30-40 leagues with 100k players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thats a bit optimistic. I run about 10 leagues and around 40k players on a computer with twice the horsepower. I guess its a question of patience. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Thats a bit optimistic. I run about 10 leagues and around 40k players on a computer with twice the horsepower. I guess its a question of patience. Twice. I run 10/40k on third of the specs. And i'm quite impatient. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 McNelis Choose the first one, has more RAM and a better graphics card. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Before you go for either though, shop around and see if you can find a computer that squeezes more power into the same price bracket. Maybe even try and find someone or somewhere that will build you a computer from parts you buy yourself. It can cost less to build your own or have someone else build it for you than it costs to buy a pre-built computer from a shop. To be honest though, building your own computer isn't that hard once you've read up about it and watched some videos. I build a computer with no prior experience a few years ago, and it worked perfectly well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Honcho Posted October 4, 2010 Share Posted October 4, 2010 Don't ignore the PC monitor. Get the biggest and clearest your budget will allow. A large flat screen monitor displays the 3D action with greater clarity and is easier on the eyes after poring over stats and attribute screens for hours on end. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
McNelis Posted October 5, 2010 Author Share Posted October 5, 2010 OR OPTION 3 Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit Processor AMD Athlon™ II X3 processor 440 Chipset nVIDIA MCP61P Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA® GeForce® 6150 SE €490 OPTION 4 Acer Veriton M421G - Athlon II X4 620 1 x AMD Athlon II X4 620 ( Quad-Core ) RAM 3 GB (installed) / 8 GB (max) - DDR2 SDRAM 1 x 1 TB - standard - Serial ATA-300 ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics card €565 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fuego Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would simply switch to Mac without any hesitation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 I would simply switch to Mac without any hesitation. A Mac in 500 bucks. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bruun Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Overall would i personally myself take option 3. Because of the processor and 4 gb DDR3 ram, but i dont know much about the graphic card.. Not really needed for Football Manager though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 Because of the processor and 4 gb DDR3 ram, but i dont know much about the graphic card.. Not really needed for Football Manager though That NVidia 6150 is worse than intel. Can't even run 3D on low. :D Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TigerTime Posted October 5, 2010 Share Posted October 5, 2010 OR OPTION 3Genuine Windows® 7 Home Premium 64-bit Processor AMD Athlon™ II X3 processor 440 Chipset nVIDIA MCP61P Memory 4 GB DDR3 Graphics NVIDIA® GeForce® 6150 SE €490 OPTION 4 Acer Veriton M421G - Athlon II X4 620 1 x AMD Athlon II X4 620 ( Quad-Core ) RAM 3 GB (installed) / 8 GB (max) - DDR2 SDRAM 1 x 1 TB - standard - Serial ATA-300 ATI Radeon HD 3200 Graphics card €565 Neither are any better than the first one in your opening post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 What you should do is find some small local shop that builds custom built PCs. For 600EUR you should be able to build a computer with an athlon II X4 processor, cheap AM3 motherboard, a generic case with a PSU, 4gb of ram, 1tb drive, dvdrw, win 7 64bit and a decent gfx card like an ATI 5670. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyewu Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 I would simply switch to Mac without any hesitation. MAC is the only way to go........I had constant issues with FM on PC's.........2+years with the iMAC and zero issues with FM (or anything else for that matter). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougyMarshall Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 MAC is the only way to go........I had constant issues with FM on PC's.........2+years with the iMAC and zero issues with FM (or anything else for that matter). The only way to go for the Computer illiterate and or fad conscious. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ishu Posted October 6, 2010 Share Posted October 6, 2010 MAC is the only way to go........I had constant issues with FM on PC's.........2+years with the iMAC and zero issues with FM (or anything else for that matter). Been playing FM since 07. On Windows. No problem ever. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fcunitedfan Posted October 7, 2010 Share Posted October 7, 2010 McNelis, I've sent you a PM about this thread. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onyewu Posted October 12, 2010 Share Posted October 12, 2010 The only way to go for the Computer illiterate and or fad conscious. I'm being harassed by someone named Dougy......HELP MODERATOR!!! I'll admit to computer illiteracy, but not sure what fad I'm part of....just wanted a computer that could run FM without issues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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