The Scottish Pyramid, Platinum Edition

Latest version: v6 - 7th Nov 2009

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Logos with repaired config (thanks to JamboRossi79 for the fixing)

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Manage any of 268 teams competing on six tiers set out at National, Regional and District level.

Promotion and Relegation from each tier/level.

In addition to the Scottish Cup, which is open to every team in the structure, there are a further three Cup Competitions, one for each of the National, Regional and District levels.

Access List:

* Current SPL and SFL teams.

* Senior non-league teams ( Highland , East of Scotland and South of Scotland Leagues).

* North Region Juniors (Premier, Division 1 and Division 2)

* East Region Juniors (Super, Premier, North, Central and South)

* West Region Juniors (Premier, Division 1, Ayrshire, Central 1 and Central 2).

* Reserve/B teams for current SPL

League Competitions

National Leagues

Tier 1: SPL1 – 16 teams

Relegation: Bottom 3

Tier 2: SPL2 – 16 teams

Promotion: Top 2 + 1 from Play Off, Positions 3 to 6

Relegation: Bottom 4

Regional Leagues

Tier 3: Championship North and Championship South – 2 leagues of 18 teams

Promotion: 2 from each Region (Champions + 1 from Play Off, Positions 2 to 5)

Relegation: Bottom 3

Tier 4: Division 1 North and Division 1 South – 2 leagues of 18 teams

Promotion: 3 from each Region (Top 2 + 1 from Play Off, Positions 3 to 6)

Relegation: Bottom 3

Tier 5: Division 2 North and Division 2 South – 2 leagues of 18 teams

Promotion: 3 from each Region (Top 2 + 1 from Play Off, Positions 3 to 6)

Relegation: Bottom 4

District Leagues

Tier 6: Scottish Junior Conference – 8 leagues of 16 teams

Promotion: Champions of each District

Cup Competitions

Scottish Cup

Entrants: All Clubs in Structure (Tiers 1 to 6) except ‘B’ teams

Seeding: None

Maximum games per club = 8

All teams enter at Round 1. All matches are a one-off knock-out

Rnd 1: 256 teams

Rnd 2: 128 teams

Rnd 3: 64 teams

Rnd 4: 32 teams

Rnd 5: 16 teams

Rnd 6: Quarter Finals

Rnd 7: Semi Finals, Hampden

Rnd 8: Final, Hampden

Scottish Super Cup

Entrants: SPL1 and SPL2 = 32 teams

Seeding: Rnd 1 Only

Maximum games per club = 12

Rnd 1: 8 Groups of 4 teams – Home and Away. Top 2 Qualify

Rnd 2: Last 16 – Home and Away

Rnd 3: Quarter Finals – Home and Away

Rnd 4: Semi Finals – Hampden

Rnd 5: Final - Hampden

Scottish Challenge Cup

Entrants: North and South Divisional Teams (Tiers 3 to 5 – No ‘B’ Teams) = 96 teams

Seeding: Rnds 1 to 3

Maximum games per club = 12

Rnd 1: Knock-out, 64 teams (All Division 2 + 28 Division 1)

Rnd 2: Knock-out, 64 teams

Rnd 3: 8 Groups of 4 teams – Home and Away. Top 2 Qualify

Rnd 4, Last 16, Single Match

Rnd 5, Quarter Finals, Single Match

Rnd 6, Semi Finals, Single Match, Neutral Venue

Rnd 7, Final, Single Match, Hampden

Scottish Junior Cup

Entrants: Clubs in Scottish Junior Conference (Tier 6)

Seeding: None

Maximum games per club = 12

Rnd 1: 128 teams, Knock-Out, Single Match

Rnd 2: 64 teams, Knock-Out, Single Match

Rnd 3: 8 Groups of 4 teams – Home and Away. Top 2 Qualify

Rnd 4, Last 16, Single Match

Rnd 5, Quarter Final, Single Match

Rnd 6, Semi Final, Single Match, Neutral Venue

Rnd 7, Final, Single Match, Hampden

This looks awesome mate, I will keep my eye on this for sure. It similar to what I want to do ;)

Looks great! I wanted to do something very similar. Your idea looks a lot better and more thought out than the 1 i had. Cant wait to use it.

sounds great.

Could you give a list of the teams you plan to put in each league please ?

National Leagues (Tiers 1 and 2)

SPL1: Aberdeen, Celtic, Dundee, Dundee United, Dunfermline Athletic, Falkirk, Hamilton Academical, Heart of Midlothian, Hibernian, Inverness Caledonian Thistle, Kilmarnock, Motherwell, Partick Thistle, Rangers, St. Johnstone, St. Mirren

SPL2: Airdrie United, Alloa Athletic, Arbroath, Ayr United, Brechin City, Clyde, Cowdenbeath, Dumbarton, East Fife, Greenock Morton, Peterhead, Queen of the South, Raith Rovers, Ross County, Stenhousemuir, Stirling Albion

Regional Leagues (Tiers 3 to 5)

Northern Championship: Brora Rangers, Buckie Thistle, Clachnacuddin, Cove Rangers, Deveronvale, Elgin City, Forfar Athletic, Formartine United, Forres Mechanics, Fraserburgh, Huntly, Inverurie Loco Works, Keith, Lossiemouth, Montrose, Nairn County, Turriff United, Wick Academy

Southern Championship: Albion Rovers, Annan Athletic, Arthurlie, Auchinleck Talbot, Berwick Rangers, Civil Service Strollers, Dalbeattie Star, East Stirlingshire, Edinburgh City, Irvine Meadow, Kirkintilloch Rob Roy, Livingston, Petershill, Pollok, Queen's Park, Spartans, Stranraer, Threave Rovers

Division 1 North: Aberdeen East End, Banchory St. Ternan, Banks O' Dee, Bathgate Thistle, Bo'ness United, Bonnyrigg Rose Athletic, Camelon, Culter, Dyce Juniors, Fort William, Glenrothes, Hill of Beath Hawthorn, Kelty Hearts, Linlithgow Rose, Lochee United, Musselburgh Athletic, Rothes, Strathspey Thistle

Division 1 South: Annbank United, Ashfield, Beith Juniors, Bellshill Athletic, Clydebank, Cumnock Juniors, East Kilbride Thistle, Girvan, Glenafton Athletic, Kilbirnie Ladeside, Kilsyth Rangers, Lanark United, Largs Thistle, Maybole Juniors, Renfrew, Rutherglen Glencairn, Vale of Clyde, Whitletts Victoria

Division 2 North: Aberdeen 'B', Buchanhaven Hearts, Carnoustie Panmure, Dundee United 'B', Ellon United, Forfar West End, Hall Russell United, Hermes, Hillhead, Inverness City, Lewis United, Longside, Parkvale, St. Johnstone 'B', Stoneywood, Sunnybank, Tayport, Whitburn

Division 2 South: Celtic 'B', Coldstream, Dalry Thistle, Falkirk 'B', Hamilton Academical 'B', Heart of Midlothian 'B', Hibernian 'B', Kilmarnock 'B', Lothian Thistle, Motherwell 'B', Neilston Juniors, Preston Athletic, Rangers 'B', Selkirk, Spartans Juniors, St. Mirren 'B', Tynecastle, Whitehill Welfare

District Leagues (Tier 6)

North Juniors: Bishopmill United, Buckie Rovers, Burghead Thistle, Deveronside, Dufftown, Fochabers, Forres Thistle, Fraserburgh United, Golspie Sutherland, Islavale, Lossiemouth United, Maud , Nairn St. Ninian, New Elgin, RAF Lossiemouth, Whitehills

North-East Juniors: Arbroath Sporting Club, Arbroath Victoria, Brechin Victoria, Broughty Athletic, Coupar Angus, Cruden Bay, Downfield, Dundee North End, Dundee Violet, East Craigie, Forfar Albion, Glentanar, Kirriemuir Thistle, Lochee Harp, Montrose Roselea, Stonehaven

East Juniors: Ballingry, Bankfoot Athletic, Blairgowrie, Crossgates Primrose, Dundonald Bluebell, Jeanfield Swifts, Kinnoull, Kirkcaldy YM, Lochgelly Albert, Lochore Welfare, Luncarty, Newburgh, Sauchie, Scone Thistle, St Andrews United, Thornton Hibs

East-Central Juniors: Broxburn Athletic, Craigroyston, Dunipace, Edinburgh United, Edinburgh University, Harthill Royal, Heriot Watt University, Leith Athletic, Livingston United, Oakley Utd, Ormiston , Pumpherston, Rosyth, Steelend Victoria, Stirling University, Tranent

Central Juniors: Armadale Thistle, Blackburn United, Blantyre Victoria, Cambuslang Rangers, Carluke Rovers, Cumbernauld United, Darvel Juniors, Forth Wanderers, Hurlford United, Larkhall Thistle, Newmains, Royal Albert, Shettleston, Shotts Bon Accord, St. Roch's, Wishaw

West-Central Juniors: Ardeer Thistle, Ardrossan Winton Rovers, Benburb, Glasgow Perthshire, Greenock Juniors, Irvine Victoria, Johnstone Burgh, Kilwinning Rangers, Maryhill, Port Glasgow, Saltcoats Victoria, St. Anthony's, Thorniewood United, Troon, Vale of Leven, Yoker Athletic

South-West Juniors: Abbey Vale, Craigmark Burntonians, Creetown, Fleet Star, Gretna, Hawick Royal Albert, Heston Rovers, Kello Rovers, Lesmahagow Juniors, Lugar Boswell Thistle, Mid-Annandale, Muirkirk Juniors, Newton Stewart, Nithsdale Wanderers, St. Cuthbert Wanderers, Wigtown & Bladnoch

South-East Juniors: Arniston Rangers, Crichton, Dalkeith Thistle, Dunbar United, Easthouses Lily Miners Welfare, Eyemouth United, Fauldhouse United, Gala Fairydean, Haddington Athletic, Kelso United, Newtongrange Star, Peebles, Penicuik Athletic, Stoneyburn, Vale of Leithen, West Calder United

Also coming soon:

This looks Awesome can't wait to see it in action

This is certainly my preferred format if somebody were to re-jig the Scottish pyramid. Good work!

Cadijk van Kaarhandel what a good man!! Was going to do something pretty similar, but htis is so well thought out and looks brilliant!! Can't wait to have it in action!!

Its look great

This looks good

Looks good. Would it not be possible to reshape the regions into the Police sections (Strathclyde, Lothian & Borders, Grampian, Tayside etc... )

Apart from that well played and will download.

Thanks for the feedback so far, hope the editor allows this after all the formulating! Took a good few attempts to get it into something that would work well for the league relegations/promotions and the sectional cups.

ATW, do you mean reshape the lowest level in Police section? I must admit i'm kinda settled on where i am right now.

Yeah I was just looking at realism sakes (not having a pop or that - great idea et al) but Southern for example has Selkirk (Borders) travelling to St Mirren "b" (Renfrewshire). Can be a fare expense. Also north has Whitburn (just west of Bathgate/Livingston) going to Aberdeen. That's some trip.

Looks good. Would it not be possible to reshape the regions into the Police sections (Strathclyde, Lothian & Borders, Grampian, Tayside etc... )

Apart from that well played and will download.

A suggested that some where else, but when you think of the teams that would be in strathclyde compared to the Grampians for example a dont think you would get a good balance.

ATW, well i just looked at who i thought should be in each tier and once i had the teams i just divied them in half. As Callum says there, there's a huge number of teams in the central belt so getting a balance will always be difficult.

This looks like it has the potential to be a superb piece of work.

My only question is will any specific rules such as squad size, salary cap or limitation of foreigners be included?

Rules will be fairly modestly set. No plans for Salary Cap or Squad Size restrictions. Will likely have match-day rules like "minimum 3 u21 in squad" and possibly a similar limit on maximum non-EU players.

That said, it'll be easy for anyone to add any of their own rules via the Data Editor.

Yeah, I think maybe a foreign rule would be good!

I've never used the editor in football manager before, so quick question. Would it be possible to download this file then make my own changes, i want to move the old firm to the premiership

Yeah, you could do that if you wanted. You'd need to retain the number teams in each league though, so you'd probably promote up the way from the bottom and add 2 teams like Burntisland Shipyard and Glasgow Uni at the bottom.

I wasn't sure how easily you could edit other people competitions. I am a firm believe that Scottish football needs to have some strict rules applied to it, in order to survive. It's nice to know I can take your superb piece of work and apply lots of rules to it.

Currently working on pulling together squad lists, and i really do wish i knew who was loaded in the game's own database already but oh well.

Anyway, I've given each team a rating from 1 to 8, this is based on the strength of the league they play in and based on their performance in that league.

Rating 1 is kinda on a par with the top Div 3 sides, Rating 2 with mid-table Div 3, Rating 3 with lower Div 3. Then 4 right down to 8 is obv. lower ranked than Div 3.

I've also got abilty bands for each of those ratings, so if i create a player for a "1 rated team" then his CA will fall between x and y.

This will (hopefully) add to the realism of the database and should ensure that, for example, the best Highland League sides are thereabouts for promotion from my Northern Championship.

Thinking i'll prob do all the League creation first and make that d/l release 1, then i'll work on addition of players for release 2.

This looks excellent, I plan to use it in my game, the set-up is exactly how I thought Scottish football should be. Would like to see some Shetland teams in there, or them to have their own separate league.

This looks tremedous, cant wait til friday:thup:

Will it be easy to use the editor to tweak the bits we want to change on your idea? As im looking to have a british cup instead of the normal league cup and would love to use your scottish pyramid system.

Will it be easy to use the editor to tweak the bits we want to change on your idea? As im looking to have a british cup instead of the normal league cup and would love to use your scottish pyramid system.

Me too. Already your regionalising the teams will help me put those teams in my regional divisions, and when you've got your squads together I'll be delighted to nick all that info too! With guys like you doing so much excellent research I'm really looking forward to FM10 like I've never looked forward to a new release before! :thup:

Like you guys I’ve obv. not used the new editor yet but I’d imagine it would be relatively easy to tweak this database. I’d think you could just deactivate any cup comps if you wanted to and keep the leagues as is. Similarly, if anyone wanted to go further down the leagues, e.g. adding Shetland teams, then they presumably just create another (lower) division.

Fantastic work mate, this looks an excellent project. One I will definitely be trying when it's released.

if anyone wanted to go further down the leagues, e.g. adding Shetland teams, then they presumably just create another (lower) division.

Yeh, I've got Caithness, Sutherland, Ross-shire, Skye & Lochaber, Orkney, Western Is., Shetland all lined up

This looks amazing. More or less the exact same thing i was going for but in greater detail. Amazing that you are adding a logo back for the Junior sides aswell and the B teams was a nice touch. Since you have no access to the editor until later this week i assume it will take some time to finish.

Cannot wait to try and take my local Forth Wonderers to SPL glory

Ohh quick question...Will you be changing the prize winnings and tv money? I assume if the SPL and SFA fat cats got there act together and went for a system like this then we would have added tv money?

This does look top class. The only criticism I have (and I'm nitpicking), is that your district leagues might be a bit too focused on one particular area each. It looks great initially, but might change after a couple of seasons after promotions/relegations. You may well end up having teams in completely the wrong league (regardless of how FM handles that sort of thing).

Personally, I'd keep the setup you have (I tried to come up with something myself and was tearing my hair out, you look to have nailed it however) but maybe change the names of your district leagues to something more general. Just my tuppenceworth!

I cant wait for this, superb work from Cadijk

Ohh quick question...Will you be changing the prize winnings and tv money? I assume if the SPL and SFA fat cats got there act together and went for a system like this then we would have added tv money?

I'm currently trying to negotiate a ficticious TV deal with Sky or ESPN

Prize money might be tweaked slightly but i don't want to go affecting the realism by offering wholly unrealistic sums.

your district leagues might be a bit too focused on one particular area each. It looks great initially, but might change after a couple of seasons after promotions/relegations. You may well end up having teams in completely the wrong league

That is a concern I have. I am hoping that the game, at the end of each season, will be able to pick up on the co-ordinates of each of the 128 Tier 6 teams and redistribute them into 8 localised groups. We know it can do this with Conference North and South, but how will it cope with 8 regions on the same tier. I’ll just leave the game running on holiday-mode once I’ve built the db and see how it comes out over the course of a few seasons.

I'm currently trying to negotiate a ficticious TV deal with Sky or ESPN

Prize money might be tweaked slightly but i don't want to go affecting the realism by offering wholly unrealistic sums.

Ha Ha ! Yeah you don't want to have crazy sums but i would think it would be slightly better off than the current prize amounts we have just now.

You will also need to find the right balance of prize money for all the different cups.

Really looking forward to this getting uploaded though mate.

What do people think the respective prize monies should be?

SPL1 = Current SPL plus 10%? 20%?

SPL2 = Current SPL minus 25%

Championships = Current Div 1

Div 1 and = Current Div 2

Etc?????

Scottish Cup, as you were

Super Cup, Challenge Cup and Junior Cup, not sure cos they’re new competitions altogether – how should they compare with the leagues?

I think thats spot on and give the 'fake' cups the same sort of prize money the League Cup would bring in?

The reinvigorated Super Cup, backed by HBOS, would surely get more prize money than the tired old league cup?

I guess the % shifts in prize money would also lead to similar % shift in Competition Reputation, e.g. if the current SPL is rated 12/20 for rep then I’d add 20% onto that to make the "new" SPL1 14/20?

That sounds good to me. A decent enough increase but not too much that it would make it less real or anything like that.

How long do you think this will take? Are you just going to edit the divisions and cups?

You need to change the format of the Scottish Cup? you got to have the prem sides in a later round

How long do you think this will take? Are you just going to edit the divisions and cups?

Not sure, trying to do as much spade work now so as to speed things up from Friday. Who knows how long it'll take and how easy the data editor will be to use.

You need to change the format of the Scottish Cup? you got to have the prem sides in a later round

Yeah i thought about that. I'm torn between letting the smallest sides have a crack at the big boys from Rnd 1 or whether to keep the SPL1 teams back for the last 64 for so. Not sure.

Yeah i thought about that. I'm torn between letting the smallest sides have a crack at the big boys from Rnd 1 or whether to keep the SPL1 teams back for the last 64 for so. Not sure.

That might depend on whether SI have tweaked the AI so that big clubs rest their first teamers for early round cup-ties.

I am a believer that all clubs should be entered as early as possible. It's too obvious that a Premier team is going to win it if they come in 4 rounds after the smaller clubs. It would be great to spice things up.

An interesting spin (which I doubt we would be able to do) is have the big boys all eliminate each other in the earlier rounds, and bring the smaller teams in as the cup progresses.

This looks great! I can hardly wait!

This looks great. One question though... Do the Junior teams only allow players under the age og eg. 21?

This looks great. One question though... Do the Junior teams only allow players under the age og eg. 21?

No, players of all ages play for the Juniors.

In the current Scottish setup, we have the 'Senior' teams (SPL, Divisions 1 - 3), and the 'Junior' teams (who have their own league structure across the country).

The term 'Junior' is used to differentiate between league types, rather than player ages. It's a strange setup to be honest - glad we can sort it out now in FM at least!

Yeh, I've got Caithness, Sutherland, Ross-shire, Skye & Lochaber, Orkney, Western Is., Shetland all lined up

Why is it I drool at the prospect of managing clubs in these lower leagues? Obscurity is wonderful; £0 transfer budgets > spending spree.

O/P updated with Club Logos download links.