Big Andy T Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 This is my summary for 3D so far, my players have a phobia of the area because they never go into it, shootin from anywhere and always without passing, Also my opposition are even better scoring screamers from any angle i cant remember a tap in so far this for me so far is the most unrealistic match engine so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I can assure you that not all goals are long shots. You may want to look into your tactics and formation. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piethief100 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It sounds like you've just about nailed the problem there. I'm scoring more goals from outside the area than anywhere else. The amount of these that are deflected or complete own goals is also too high in my opinion. Still the 3D match engine is far better than I expected and I think SI deserve praise for that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
craigy18181 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 i scored loads of tap ins and headers etc from crosses. think it may be your tatics mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZIRA - NK Jedinstvo Bihac Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 creative freedom maybe to high? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
homerjnick Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 By far the most realistic FM game ever, the 3D really helps you sort your tactics out. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 yeah i've seen all kind of goals at my reign at man utd nani fluke goal from corner free kicks of all kind individual efforts from tevez (against chelsea, he picked the ball up at the midfield dribbled he's way through then scored the only goal of the game just to add example ) try a different team or tactics then form a new opinion Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Piethief100 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It seem I'm in the minority then. It must be me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 By far the most realistic FM game ever, the 3D really helps you sort your tactics out. second that it's fantastic to see what happens when you change things and the assmen feedback helps to Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisboyshouts Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 it has been said over and over again that the 3D view does not effect the game in anyway, what you're observing is to do with the match engine itself and nothing at all to do with the 3d layer... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 It seem I'm in the minority then. It must be me. not neceseraly there are goals for me to which are from 20 meters or more i just say that i've seen all kind of goals so far Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 the match engine still hasn't considered the fact that strikers might want to take a touch before shooting, or moving closer to the area. 99% of the time my striker will shoot as soon as he receives the ball, even if he can run unchallenged into the box. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Andy T Posted November 4, 2008 Author Share Posted November 4, 2008 ok so maybe my tactics need a little tweaking, but the oppo are just belting them in from all angles all the time!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 the match engine still hasn't considered the fact that strikers might want to take a touch before shooting, or moving closer to the area. 99% of the time my striker will shoot as soon as he receives the ball, even if he can run unchallenged into the box. If this is the case please note the times strikers do this and upload the PKMs and log the issue in our bugs forum. If it is happening 99% of the time this is clearly a problem you should actually raise in a constructive manner that we can analyse and figure out what is going wrong. Simply bandying random hyperbole around isn't going to help. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 If this is the case please note the times strikers do this and upload the PKMs and log the issue in our bugs forum. If it is happening 99% of the time this is clearly a problem you should actually raise in a constructive manner that we can analyse and figure out what is going wrong. Simply bandying random hyperbole around isn't going to help. Sorry, but i've been doing that since FM07 and the issue has been ignored over and over and over. You already have the relevent PKM's and you've had them for years now. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRAiNDEAD Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 i had 3 own goals in one of my games.. lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Old PKMs from old versions are not helpful to us as the match engine has changed significantly. If you have a problem, please post in the bug forums for it. Like has been disussed elsewhere on these boards, all issues are logged and reviewed. If it hasn't been fixed in previous versions it may not have been deemed high enough priority. If you still have a problem with it, raise it again and make it known that you have been experiencing this problem for a long time. If it is severe enough then it will get seen to. Just because we haven't been able to fix something in the past does not mean we will not be able to fix it now, or in the future. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Old PKMs from old versions are not helpful to us as the match engine has changed significantly. If you have a problem, please post in the bug forums for it. Like has been disussed elsewhere on these boards, all issues are logged and reviewed. If it hasn't been fixed in previous versions it may not have been deemed high enough priority. If you still have a problem with it, raise it again and make it known that you have been experiencing this problem for a long time. If it is severe enough then it will get seen to. Just because we haven't been able to fix something in the past does not mean we will not be able to fix it now, or in the future. I'll do that when i get a playable version of the game then.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I'll do that when i get a playable version of the game then.. I completely disagree with your sentiment to start with (about strikers not taking a touch), but being so completely unhelpful to aid the enhancement of the game is just terrible. I suggest you either try and be helpful and do as one of the testing team has asked. Or stop complaining. There are ways of bringing up issues constructively. Please try and do so. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I completely disagree with your sentiment to start with (about strikers not taking a touch), but being so completely unhelpful to aid the enhancement of the game is just terrible. I suggest you either try and be helpful and do as one of the testing team has asked. Or stop complaining. There are ways of bringing up issues constructively. Please try and do so. get lost. I've been reporting this issue for years and they've never even looked at it. Besides that, i would report it, yet again, for the third year in a row, if i could play the demo for longer than 5 minutes without it locking up! Thanks for your "helpful" post... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarlHighfield Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 My players shoot from like 40-50 yards out and missed them all Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I havent noticed anything out of the ordinary tbh... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I suggest that poeple who can actually get the demo running reliably check the number of times your strikers shoot first time when they could run in closer to goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I suggest that poeple who can actually get the demo running reliably check the number of times your strikers shoot first time when they could run in closer to goal. Seeing as I've extensively checked the match engine throughout FML testing (all be it the 2d version) I've found it to be a fair amount in comparison to everything else.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I suggest that poeple who can actually get the demo running reliably check the number of times your strikers shoot first time when they could run in closer to goal. And if anyone finds this to be a problem that occurs more often than not, upload the saved PKMs and give us some times in the bug forum with a reference to "Player is clean through and takes first time shot from miles out instead of running to goal" we will be able to update the bug logged on the issue with new examples for the match engine guys to look at. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Seeing as I've extensively checked the match engine throughout FML testing (all be it the 2d version) I've found it to be a fair amount in comparison to everything else.. To be honest i reported it when i was testing FML in April too. If a striker receives the ball near the edge of the area and he's through on goal, the majority of the time he SHOULD move in closer to goal before shooting. In FM and FML (i haven't played it since April) most of the time they would shoot first time or shoot from long range in spite of any player instructions. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I've had only one long range shot go in so far. The rest have all been a whole mixture of different goals from tap ins to headers Oh and I can't say I've noticed players shooting first time when they get the ball, often they will try to run closer to goal Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thisboyshouts Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 i thought this was a thread about Matt Le Tissier Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
saberhagen83 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Yeah I've had that too. I'm sure it's down to my tactics but I just can't seem to get it to do what I want it to do. My players more or less only scores from way out or from set pieces (usually freekicks straight in goal). I'm sure it has to do with the same fact that I've lost count how many 1-on-1 my players keep shooting straight on the keeper. Whenever they get into the box they seem incapable to shoot at either side of him, he just stands there and catches them with no problem. I think the only close range goal my team has done is when Walcott ran through several players, and past the keeper, to tap it in...more or less a run/walk over the line sort of goal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rusty_u Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Glen Johnson just banged in a 40-yarder Keeper was somewhat out of position though heh Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 get lost. I've been reporting this issue for years and they've never even looked at it.Besides that, i would report it, yet again, for the third year in a row... Here, you're essentially asserting that it happens in FM'08 as well, which we all have a lot of experience with. Personally, I don't see that issue; I see my players take a touch to settle often enough that I changed a line of commentary in the commentary file to be "X takes a touch to settle" because it matched what I was seeing in 2-D more. That suggests to me that its something you do with your tactics .. .. and if that's the case, it may be that SI have looked at your PKM's, analyzed them, and decided "Yes, his striker is playing to his tactics. Not a bug." Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soup_is_cool Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 yes ive made a topic about this. They shot almost from the midfield to score, and this happens WAY to often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 Here, you're essentially asserting that it happens in FM'08 as well, which we all have a lot of experience with. Personally, I don't see that issue; I see my players take a touch to settle often enough that I changed a line of commentary in the commentary file to be "X takes a touch to settle" because it matched what I was seeing in 2-D more. That suggests to me that its something you do with your tactics .. .. and if that's the case, it may be that SI have looked at your PKM's, analyzed them, and decided "Yes, his striker is playing to his tactics. Not a bug." ffs its not my tactics. I can be playing slow tempo and telling my strikers to hold up the ball and they still will shoot first time far too often. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Socdk Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I had a guy with 16 in his Long Shots attribute and an "Shoots From Distance" PPM who kept shooting long range shot whenever I used him. I told him to tone down on the long shots, bumped his "Long Shots" down to rarely -thus evening it out with his PPM- and gave him a little less creative freedom. So far it have worked. He'll still take shots every game but only if he gets in a good position to shoot. So now more often than not he hits the target and have managed to score a screamer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Terry85 Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I have seen a player clean through just shoot straight on goal when he was far from goal also but it was back on FM07. Sometimes he'd just receive the ball in space and then shoot first time too. P.S Skorp - you rock. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
solstar Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I agree, some of my goals have been great passing shots and in the area. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
benji!!!!! Posted November 4, 2008 Share Posted November 4, 2008 I am constantly missing one on ones, with wolves and man city, think i've scored 1 from about 20 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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