Vane Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 How come both SI and BGS (CM2009) are both releasing Fifa style 3D match engines with full player animations in the same year? Is everyone going to the same 3D engine classes or something? I think we need to know!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 The 3D isn't like fifa's. That's what makes it cool. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dada Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Maybe one company heard through the grapevines that the other was releasing their 3d engine this year and decided theirs was at a sufficient enough stage to also release as a counter. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomHAVFC Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Aren't SI and CM someway connected. Not sure but I've heard they are. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 SI used to make CM, they have nothing to do with it anymore. I think it's just the fact that both need to keep on innovating. CM to catch up and FM to stay on top. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Vane - its not like its been a secret, in the industry, that SI have been hiring 3D animators and programmers. I imagine if I'd heard that, its easy enough to imagine that BGS had heard it .. or if BGS started first, that SI had heard it about them. Its surprisingly tough to "steal a march" on somebody in the games industry. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted September 11, 2008 Author Share Posted September 11, 2008 Well the guys at SI will know the guys at BGS but you wouldn't expect loose talk over something which could be a big selling point. Just for clarification, the impressive CM engine is shown on a YouTube teaser video, so we believe, and not an official announcement yet, so I might be a bit premature with my thread. Edit: To Amaroq: Yeah, I know these things can happen but just thought that it was amusing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tameeris Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 Well imagine if you and your neighbour are selling lemonade, and your neighbour gives people a free cup of sugar, you would do it also so that you don't stay behind... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmurfDude Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 CM can add 3D till their heart's content, it won't change the fact their match engine is terrible. A pig wearing lipstick is still a pig Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Ter Posted September 11, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted September 11, 2008 We've been planning to go 3D for a few years now so there are no conspiracies I'm afraid. The match engine has always been more or less in 3D anyway. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amaroq Posted September 11, 2008 Share Posted September 11, 2008 A pig wearing lipstick is still a pig You sexist jerk! . (Aside to non-Americans who might not get the joke - Barack Obama recently derided the Republican party's attempt to re-cast itself as the "maverick party" in the upcoming U.S. election, saying that John McCain's policies weren't much different from incumbent George Bush's by using that phrase. The Republicans launched an ad claiming it was sexism to mention lipstick because McCain's Vice-Presidential running mate is female. I suppose a joke which requires that much explanation is no longer funny .. but SmurfDude's timely use of the phrase made me laugh ) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jedi5diah Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 fm is separated from the original CM but they are the match engine developer. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smac Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 fm is separated from the original CM but they are the match engine developer. The boat has left Jedi, and I'm afraid you missed it! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suzie MUFC Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 (Aside to non-Americans who might not get the joke - Barack Obama recently derided the Republican party's attempt to re-cast itself as the "maverick party" in the upcoming U.S. election, saying that John McCain's policies weren't much different from incumbent George Bush's by using that phrase. The Republicans launched an ad claiming it was sexism to mention lipstick because McCain's Vice-Presidential running mate is female. I suppose a joke which requires that much explanation is no longer funny .. but SmurfDude's timely use of the phrase made me laugh ) It made me laugh and I know exactly what he meant, just all the more hilarious that it could be taken two ways! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HD Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 (Aside to non-Americans who might not get the joke - Barack Obama recently derided the Republican party's attempt to re-cast itself as the "maverick party" in the upcoming U.S. election, saying that John McCain's policies weren't much different from incumbent George Bush's by using that phrase. The Republicans launched an ad claiming it was sexism to mention lipstick because McCain's Vice-Presidential running mate is female. I suppose a joke which requires that much explanation is no longer funny .. but SmurfDude's timely use of the phrase made me laugh ) Heh. If you have to explain a joke it's not worth telling in the first place. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodis Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 fm is separated from the original CM but they are the match engine developer. As far as I remember, Eidos only owned the name Championship Manager, not the code of the game, so the CM match engine today is not based on the CM match engine SI made. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nehpets81 Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 You sexist jerk! . (Aside to non-Americans who might not get the joke - Barack Obama recently derided the Republican party's attempt to re-cast itself as the "maverick party" in the upcoming U.S. election, saying that John McCain's policies weren't much different from incumbent George Bush's by using that phrase. The Republicans launched an ad claiming it was sexism to mention lipstick because McCain's Vice-Presidential running mate is female. I suppose a joke which requires that much explanation is no longer funny .. but SmurfDude's timely use of the phrase made me laugh ) Also, it's interesting to note that McCain made the very same comment with reference to Hilary Clinton... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suge Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 Does anyone actually play CM anymore? Why would you settle for soup when you could have caviar? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I played it right after 3D was announced. Their match engine is..tilted. But really sucks. Right clicked and deleted. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vane Posted September 12, 2008 Author Share Posted September 12, 2008 I'll be trying all the football manager games this year because I think they'll all be taking big steps forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DietSpam Posted September 12, 2008 Share Posted September 12, 2008 I have to say: CMS 3D looks pretty good. I guess i'll be trying their demo as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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