opul Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 at what age do you put u19 players into your reserves? I used to do it at age 17 immediately, so they get full training, lately I have been leaving them in the u19 until they either turned 19 during their last season down there, or when I had a really amazing talent, which would IMO be wasted in the u19. and does the training difference at that age make a massive difference, or will a talent develop either way? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neji Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Depends on their talent. If they are good enough for the reserves then I will bump them up. I don't tend to do it unless I have a good player though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SWaRFeGa Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I do it on ability, rather than age. If they're good enough, they're old enough. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bodis Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 Training and competitive matches each play their part. I give fulltime contracts to the 17 year olds I feel deserve them, then I move them up to the reserves. I leave the rest in the U19's until their contract expires or they convince me (attribute wise) that they deserve a fulltime contract and a trip to the reseveres. I'm sure if you ask 10 different people you'll get 10 different answers though Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I don't usually bother and send them away to affiliates. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 The only affiliate that will actually play and of my players is Antwerp, who are an affiliate from game start. None of the ones I've set up will play them. It's very frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nomis07 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 ^^ That's why I usually go for a lesser option when picking feeder clubs, I picked Alaves once and they never played anyone I sent, whereas a Belgian/Austrian club will play them nearly every match. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike7077 Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I have Hibernian as a feeder club. Being Man. United, I'd have thought they'd play at least some of the youngsters I send them. A couple of seasons back, they played Febian Brandy a lot. But nothing since. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SCIAG Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 I promote my u18s when they're needed. I want my back ups to be the reserves, and the under 18s to play in the under 18s. In other words, I'll promote them if there's a free spot in the reserve side, but only then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Klimowicz Posted August 21, 2008 Share Posted August 21, 2008 i'm trying to blood some 16/17 year olds in my first team. i called one up for international duty last time out, he was the best available aml, even though he's not great at the moment, although he is going to be good enough anyway. generally, if the coach recommends a player in the new intake of yth players, he will be offered a full time deal and put straight in the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I put them in when they are too old to play in the youths. I don't want to blood a 17 year old in the first team straight away, as I will want a good but gradual 12 years out of him, not 4 years of fleet-footed talent and 8 of injury and failure to live up to expectations. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m-platt Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Funny you should ask, was thinking the same thing when playing earlier! Have just bought a 17yrs striker who has amazing potential according to my scouts. Now I don't know what to do with him?!? Think I will use the same technique as some mentioned and look to try and be as real as possible, such as Wenger with Walcott. I'm pretty certain (please correct me if I am wrong) that Walcott was playing in the reserves when he first moved to Arsenal rather than the U18's, as this would obviously not have much beneficial effect on a player who has already played senior football. And Wenger does not seem to do too bad with his 'kids,' maybe we should follow his lead? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I also like to loan my young players for at least a season before I bring them into my main squad - I need to see they can perform well and consistently in matches that mean something. 90% of my main squad are generally 22-29. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rafa2007 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 What I tend to do is, leave them in U18, but if they are one of the bigger talents in the squad, I try and give them about 10 games (if possible) in the 1st team a season so that they can get a taste of first team football, and this tends to have benefits for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crafty bison Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I never actively move players from the U18s to the Reserves because I find that if they're good enough, they play for the Reserves as well anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScouseFromTheSouth Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 As most of the people here have said, the more talented U18s will be moved to the reserves, regardless of how young they are. I don't do it on age. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
abyss616 Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 Once players have signed a full-time contract and can train full-time, I move them up to the reserves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirTodge Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 in the past i would look at my yoots PA and just dump anyone with less than 150 (yeah i know its cheating but it was ages ago!) and promote the ones i had up to the reserves as soon as they looked like more rounded talents instead of just raw nobodys. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pelicanstuff Posted August 22, 2008 Share Posted August 22, 2008 I never actively move players from the U18s to the Reserves because I find that if they're good enough, they play for the Reserves as well anyway? Yes, this is true. It can be a problem, as sometimes the ass man doesn't understand they need a rest. I've ended up with 17 year olds playing 20 matches for the U18s and another 20 for the reserves in a season - a bit much for someone of that age. But I never move them up till I have to, they need time to develop mentally. More time scrubbing boots and turning out in front of 200 people on wet wednesday evenings is good for them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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