Jops14 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 I've had a couple of saves on this FM where i've seen big clubs (perhaps not giants but big nonetheless) freefalling through the divisions. In one save i witnessed Fulham go from the premiership to the conference south in about 10 years, and in another save i've seen Everton fall the the premiership down to league 2 (and eventually get back to the championship). Often i've noted that the reason for this freefall is a distinct lack of money and these clubs continually getting punished for this with point deductions. Consequently one thing i've noted is you end up with these teams in the bottom division still playing in 30,000 capacity stadiums. Now surely if the finances were so poor a club would have to sell their stadium and eveventually move out if they still could not pay the rent (a likely situation for a club with small gates). This is something i've never seen and was basically wondering if it was at all possible, or if it would be a good idea to include it in a future version. Therefore making it slightly more realistic and meaningful when trying to revive one of these clubs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 The problem is clubs will be in a catch-22 situation. Their existing stadium acts like a millstone around their neck yet if they sell up & move to a smaller purpose built ground then theye giv up the one thing that will help them should they rise up the divisions. In reality former big clubs that fall on hard times either recover or the ground slowly rots until it has to be demolished. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 Darlington's 27000 stadium named after infamous former owner George Reynolds - a financial millstone for years - but not a giant in the first place Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kccircle Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Is there a way to find quickly the biggest 5 grounds in the world on the game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott MUFC Posted August 1, 2012 Share Posted August 1, 2012 Fulham survived on mine by the skin of thier teeth, from relegation and the 10 point deduction on 1 of mine. and there are some crazy freefalls (had 2 teams drom from L1 to BSQ in 2 seasons) but the real big clubs i see never fall, although Leeds look like being relegated on my utd save Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jops14 Posted August 1, 2012 Author Share Posted August 1, 2012 I've not seen the huge ones fall either, though rarely when people do the holiday experiments you see a Man u or newcastle etc down there stillplaying in 50000+ stadiums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BenArsenal Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Sheff Wed, Leeds and Nottm Forest still had pretty big stadiums (30,000 odd I believe) when they went down to League One Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionel messi Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 oldham athlectic have droped right down to the north west counties league on my game, that is a huge drop lol. ive also seen alot of stadiums reduced in capacity. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krald Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Wigan got relegated from league 2, and look set to get relegated again. Know what does seem interesting? their stadium seems to be half the capacity it is IRL, as if they closed some stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nobby_McDonald Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Stands have been closing in the game since CM01/02. Clubs can't maintain them to the required standard and they get closed down on health and safety reasons. If a club recovers and finances improve, then they can reopen the stands. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krald Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Yeah I've seen it before, I just didn't expect it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted August 2, 2012 Share Posted August 2, 2012 Is there a way to find quickly the biggest 5 grounds in the world on the game Yes, go into the editor and do a filtered search of the stadiums. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattias333 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 or genie scout. You can see all stadiums and size there very easily if you have access to genie scout. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jops14 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Stands have been closing in the game since CM01/02. Clubs can't maintain them to the required standard and they get closed down on health and safety reasons.If a club recovers and finances improve, then they can reopen the stands. Huh wow thats great to know thanks, only asked just because in 12 years of fm ive never really noticed it, next time i see a big club do poorly for a long time imma check it out! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
siambluebird Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 I have had Chelsea, Liverpool, and Spurs get relegated in a long term save. Liverpool actually avoided relegation to L1 on the last day of a season. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
css_matt Posted August 5, 2012 Share Posted August 5, 2012 As a supporter of Charlton, the last thing I would ever, ever want the club to do is leave The Valley again. For those than dont know we lost the ground and spent years and years trying to get it back. We had to groupshare with mikey West Ham and The Nigels. A club would only sell its stadium as a last resort before liquidation of the club itself. It is such an important asset which mostly is irreplaceable (from a fans pov) On FM, I have seen liverpool get relegated twice. Once because of my hilariously bad mates managing skills. After seeing him sell Torres, Gerrard, Alonso and Masch (big accepted for him by the board) Chelsea were bottom after 12 games until I joined from 2nd place Swansea. Signed benzema and ganso and gonna climb up the table now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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