Omg pa=199!!

Hi Guys,

I was using fm genie for the first time and found that a gk regen that I have had since the start of my save has a pa of 199!! he is now 23 and doesnt look great can I have any advice on how to help him reach his ability thanks!

Having him tutored to raise determination, work rate and other mental stats. At 23 it may be a it late though.

What's his CA?

And a screenshot will help.

kk 2mins until screenshot

His CA is 150

Teamwork 1 and Work rate 4 probably hindered his development I think.

He's pretty good already. Still chance to improve his CA.

Since you are using an editor, what's his ambition and professionalism? Also include his tutor options.

yeh thats what I thought

Teamwork 1 and Work rate 4 probably hindered his development I think.

No they don't but not playing him does.

Teamwork 1 and Work rate 4 probably hindered his development I think.

Teamwork does not influence development while there is no conclusive evidence that workrate is important in GKs.

12 and 7....

i do play him but it is only even a couple of games into season

12 and 7....

And tutor options?

I'm sure I read that workrate plays a part in the development of youth players, are you certain it doesn't?

I'm sure I read that workrate plays a part in the development of youth players, are you certain it doesn't?

just common sense says that it does

Professionalism, ambition and workrate for outfield players. I'm not inclined to believe that workrate matters for GKs as it's not a crucial attribute for most GKs.

I'm sure I read that workrate plays a part in the development of youth players, are you certain it doesn't?

just common sense says that it does

i used lloris and akinfeev as tutors

Professionalism, ambition and workrate for outfield players. I'm not inclined to believe that workrate matters for GKs as it's not a crucial attribute for most GKs.

Surely it affects how he applies himself in training?

by the way, why you're managing Man City and you have nick "MUFC95"?

And tutor options?

Pretty, please? You might still get some fast CA gains for a year or so.

Pretty, please? You might still get some fast CA gains for a year or so.

i said lloris and akinfeev

i do play him but it is only even a couple of games into season

He's never going to fulfill his potential unless you play him for at least 10-15 games a season

Surely it affects how he applies himself in training?

Workrate is how hard he works in a match isn't it? Can't see GKs running all over the field.

i used lloris and akinfeev as tutors

Both are good tutors. Get him tutored by Lloris, then Akinfeev.

Workrate is how hard he works in a match isn't it?

And in training. It stands to reason.

And in training. It stands to reason.

In theory, but game-wise I think it just applies to matches.

No they don't but not playing him does.

This. If you play him a little more it will help him improve. Play him 2-3 times a month.

Pretty sure it just applies to matches, lots of regen GK's seem to have poor workrate and teamwork or at least they do on most of my games.

I'd think at 23 , he is too old to be tutored.

But, remember, that GKs don't peak until around 28 to 33, much later than outfield players. So, I'd say he still has a good chance to come very close to his PA. As some others have mentioned, he will ned regular first team games to have any hope.

A loan might be an option, but as he is an established international already, I would think it will be unlikely he will go anywhere.

seen a few with 200, though they always seam to be let down in one or two key attributes where ever they play. Like natural fitness being 6 or stamina being 7. While that does not effect your GK it totally ruins the rest of your players. Even on the GK I found with 200 he had awful mental stats and never got on with any GK I tried to coach him with, tbh I don't think I have ever had a successful GK tutoring.

23 yo is still young enough to be tutored. You can sometimes go up to 26 even.

seen a few with 200, though they always seam to be let down in one or two key attributes where ever they play. Like natural fitness being 6 or stamina being 7. While that does not effect your GK it totally ruins the rest of your players. Even on the GK I found with 200 he had awful mental stats and never got on with any GK I tried to coach him with, tbh I don't think I have ever had a successful GK tutoring.

National Fitness is an indication of how fast they recover in between matches so it's not a key attribute. Stamina 7 is bad for outfield players but doesn't matter to GKs as they don't run around the field. I personally think GKs are the easiest to tutor though, as long as you have a nice tutoring GK.

what training schedule are you using? You dont want just focus on tutoring him and not developing his physical stats too

Doesn't his physical attributes look decent enough for a GK?

Like I said it wouldn't effect the GK in those areas. I really must be unlucky with GK's and tutoring, I can't remember one that had a positive effect. :/

Doesn't his physical attributes look decent enough for a GK?

not with a PA of 199. They could all get 1 or 2 points more with the right training.

not with a PA of 199. They could all get 1 or 2 points more with the right training.

The current attributes are good enough tbh.

your joking right? If i had a goal keeper with 199 PA i wouldnt be happy with 15 for command of area, 13 for communication and rushing out, surprised anyone would be?

your joking right? If i had a goal keeper with 199 PA i wouldnt be happy with 15 for command of area, 13 for communication and rushing out, surprised anyone would be?

what training schedule are you using? You dont want just focus on tutoring him and not developing his physical stats too

You were talking about physical attributes, which I think is decent enough already. Ofc I want key attributes like command of area, communication, rushing out to be higher.

ok my bad, still a keeper with 9 for agility? Surely thats not what you would consider good? Remembering that 199 is near enough the highest rating a player can have?

Still has the potential but i think too much focus is being thrown on the mental side rather than his actual ability

Aerial ability is what counts for GKs, not agility. His mental attributes need to be high for faster development. As it is currently, his further development is shunt by his relatively poor mental attributes.

agree to disagree mate, not worth going around in circles. I believe that his actual training is just as important as his mental, you dont and thats your opinion which you are more than welcome to, best of luck to you

Actual training is important, yes. But if the mental attributes are not right, even the best training and best coaches may not improve him much. If you go into the tactics forum and read the many good articles like SFrazer's, you will find that mental attributes of professionalism, ambition, workrate and determination (in that order) are the most crucial, followed by game time amongst others. Training / coaches will just distribute points to the respective attributes.

I had a IV striker, PA 189 and with the potential to be a next Drogba. Professionalism? 8. Ambition? 1. Even with the best coaches and tutors, he didn't improve and is in no-man's land now. Ambition 12 and Professionalism 7 isn't very good for the OP's player.

Best of luck to you in whatever way you think too. It's your game and it doesn't affect me at all. I just feel the OP should be properly informed.

My fav. is Barca's regens. Every year they get about 5 regens over 180 pa.

Yes, 200 potential ability. A Spanish guy named Yeong Ci Chun is interesting either

This one's attributes are more logical by the way. It is all about luck i think.

The name's a bug you get with Spanish, Brazilian players with Genie Scout.

Nice starting attributes although I would have preferred anticipation to be higher. With the right tutor, he can become very good.

I am sure he has a 2nd nationality much like my Portugal U21 newgen I had called Takeshi Yamashita.

The screenshot only shows him as having Spanish nationality though.

It's a known bug anyway.

mine show him only having Portugal nationality. The other only shows up on the personal screen.