theBantams Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Today I up-graded my laptop from 2GB of ram to 4GB But still the game takes too long to generate fixtures, And my processor usage is still stuck right at the top just wondering if anyone has perfect specs for this game Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkim Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Out of curiosity, what's your processor? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theBantams Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 Genuine Intel® CPU 575 @ 2.00GHz Hope that helps Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BaYa Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 your cpu is not good enough... my laptop has a dualcore at 2.00GHz with 2mb cache and it's still not good enough... you NEED a DESKTOP if you want it running FAST the cache memory is as important as all the rest Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theBantams Posted September 4, 2009 Author Share Posted September 4, 2009 your cpu is not good enough...my laptop has a dualcore at 2.00GHz with 2mb cache and it's still not good enough... you NEED a DESKTOP if you want it running FAST the cache memory is as important as all the rest The guy in pc world recommended this laptop for this game lol sometimes they don't know what there talking about it seems Thanks for the info mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
silva_gunner Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 Perfect? 10GHz CPU 50GB RAM 2TB HDD 2096MB graphics card Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkim Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You don't necessarily need a desktop to run the game "fast". You'd be ill-advised if you think so. Bantams, from my understanding, that's a single-core Celeron processor? A single core processor for a game like FM, unfortunately, is not sufficient enough to run at a good speed. While you may be able to load up quite a few leagues (judging by the 4GB of RAM you mentioned),you will still suffer from lag and slowness while processing, like you mentioned. I would suggest lowering the amount of leagues so that your processor has as little as possible fixtures to process, so that you can get quicker game play. As you can see, leagues and processing times (ie. RAM & Processing power) go hand-in-hand in FM. Best of luck. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainPlanet Posted September 4, 2009 Share Posted September 4, 2009 You listened to a sales rep in PC World? *facepalm* Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabio MVP Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 IMO there is no need for this thread you made... http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php?t=146264 <<< look in here... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I think its clear, do not take advice from anyone that works for PC World I applied there once for part time work while studying my degree. Now I have a Bb in AVCE IT (double A level). They told me i was overqualified! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
theBantams Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 You don't necessarily need a desktop to run the game "fast". You'd be ill-advised if you think so.Bantams, from my understanding, that's a single-core Celeron processor? A single core processor for a game like FM, unfortunately, is not sufficient enough to run at a good speed. While you may be able to load up quite a few leagues (judging by the 4GB of RAM you mentioned),you will still suffer from lag and slowness while processing, like you mentioned. I would suggest lowering the amount of leagues so that your processor has as little as possible fixtures to process, so that you can get quicker game play. As you can see, leagues and processing times (ie. RAM & Processing power) go hand-in-hand in FM. Best of luck. Thanks for the advice Arkim. Yeah I only run 2 leagues when playing never any more than that. decided to take the laptop back as I have only had it a week Plus I was given the wrong advice, When I was sold it. Thanks again Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arkim Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Thanks for the advice Arkim.Yeah I only run 2 leagues when playing never any more than that. decided to take the laptop back as I have only had it a week Plus I was given the wrong advice, When I was sold it. Thanks again That's great. For your next system, look into a dual core processor as the minimum (ex. Intel's Core 2 Duo line, AMD's Turion line). Don't bother asking a sales rep, either. Write down the system configurations and if you can, post on the forums before making your purchase if you're unsure and I'm sure you'll get much better advise. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaglealan64 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 The guy in pc world recommended this laptop for this game lolsometimes they don't know what there talking about it seems I disagree - when do they ever know what they are talking about? :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevio11 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Strange, I have never had a problem with my PC'S from pcworld whilst playing FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
mseel82 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I created my desktop from scratch and i have: AMD 64 5000+ x 2 (running at 2.60 ghz) 2GB Ram 500GB HDD nVidia 9600GT It cost me less the £500 to put together (including Vista 32bit) and i can run between 7-10 nations with all thier respective leagues and a large database without even breaking a sweat. I reckon if i wanted to i could run every league but it would have a long wait time between days due to the amount of games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
tiltman Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I play all leagues in approx 10 countries (playable) and another 10 countries set to unplayable. Covering a big part of europe. Do not have any long waits during play. W3520 @ 4.3Ghz, 6Gb RAM 7-7-7-20, 4xOCZ Vertex SSD's in RAID0, GTX285. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 i7 920 @ 2.66, 3Gb DDR3 Ram @ 1600, X4870 1Gb DDR5 @ 790Mhz (GPU), 935 Mhz (RAM), 128GB SSD My current and dream (water cooled) machine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 I created my desktop from scratch and i have:AMD 64 5000+ x 2 (running at 2.60 ghz) 2GB Ram 500GB HDD nVidia 9600GT It cost me less the £500 to put together (including Vista 32bit) and i can run between 7-10 nations with all thier respective leagues and a large database without even breaking a sweat. I reckon if i wanted to i could run every league but it would have a long wait time between days due to the amount of games. You must be patient. My spec is better than that and I find the processing times intenseely frustrating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
englandmanager Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 them idiots at pc fail do my head in.. they know nothing i went to a self-employed specialist. They sold me a great build up pc for less money than a pc world one and it's running great Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 i got my system off the net, got it all for just a few hundred more than an underpowered store bought system. It works a beaut and can run pretty much anything, good for a user created content creator like myself, as well as being a PC gamer. You will never see me going back to consoles unless its for Wii Sports Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Funnily enough, processing is faster if you play with the game settings on 'slowest - play in background'. I seldom see any processing for anything longer than a few seconds. The two most important components here are CPU and RAM. You'll need at leaast 2 cores @ circa 2GB, and at least 2GB of RAM. That said, the faster the RAM, the better. I'd say DDR2 PC6400 @ 800MHz as a minimum. In laptop you'll likey get DDR2 PC6400 @ 533MHz which'll do. My Desktop runs an Intel E6850 3.00GHz Core2Duo with 8GB of DDR2 PC8500 @ 1066Mhz and FM humps along like a dog on viagra. My Laptop is an XPS-M1530 runs an Intel T9300 2.5GHz Core2Duo with 4GB of DDR2 PC6400 @ 800Mhz and is slightly slower than desktop but still entirely fast enough. Hard Drive size is almost irrelevant. So it always makes me laugh when people quote their hard drive as if 500GB makes any difference over 120GB. In truth what matters is free space, read/write speeds, transfer speeds, rpm, and fragmentation. As for a perfect spec? You need to balance that with cost. I guess a DDR3 driven Core i7 machine would be the top end, but since DDR3 offers little over high end DDR2 at present, and since i7's are massively overprived in comparison with some of the Quad Core predecessors you could build a thumping base with a Q9550, 4GB of DDR2 at 1066Mhz or above, and a decent up to date 512MB Graphics card. Depends on what you want to spend, or can spend. Frankly I could easily afford to buy the new top of range i7 coming out and build a £2k system, but since my current system eats even the heaviest of games happily I'm not gonna bother - it's about what does the job. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
drunkpunk Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Inie75: just reminded me I need to do a defrag Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Ohh me too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nine_iron Posted September 6, 2009 Share Posted September 6, 2009 Hard Drive size is almost irrelevant. So it always makes me laugh when people quote their hard drive as if 500GB makes any difference over 120GB. In truth what matters is free space, read/write speeds, transfer speeds, rpm, and fragmentation. I got a SSD so I like to say about mine cos I feel special! and yes, my rig is i7 DDR3 People quote some strange things though, Ive seen: Laptop Weight Webcam Quality Colour Carry Case included Printer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Inie75: just reminded me I need to do a defrag Ohh me too! You guys might wanna try out Puran Defrag 6. I've been amazed with performance, seems to slick things up compared to the memory hogs that Perfect Disk and Diskeeper have become. I got a SSD so I like to say about mine cos I feel special! and yes, my rig is i7 DDR3 People quote some strange things though, Ive seen: Laptop Weight Webcam Quality Colour Carry Case included Printer I'd love an SSD. I'm running Raptors in a striped RAID0 at the mo which will do until a 320GB SSD comes down in price. How much did you spend on your i7? I don't mean to be dismissive of them, they are awesome chips, but there's always been a bang for buck element, (a curve, if you will) that I'm pretty tight in sticking too. I'm a bit annoyed with Intel at mo as every CPU upgrade seems to lead to a new MoBo too! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr_knutsen Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Today I up-graded my laptop from 2GB of ram to 4GB But still the game takes too long to generate fixtures, And my processor usage is still stuck right at the topjust wondering if anyone has perfect specs for this game I now have a Intel Q9000 on my laptop (quad core 2Ghz and 4GB DDR3) it runs like H*** http://www.nice-pc.co.uk/acatalog/info_VFY_X3670MPVX3GB.html Earlier I used maybe 15 minutes to get through a week with national matches if I were on holliday and now it takes maybe two minutes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falastur Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Perfect?10GHz CPU 50GB RAM 2TB HDD 2096MB graphics card Wouldn't help that much. The gfx card might make the ME load in double-quick time but the vast majority of that RAM would be redundant and thus a waste of money and resources, and the same goes for the CPU - it would only just perform better than a 4GHz, maybe. Windows has a bit of a thing for only utilising extra resources when it becomes an industry standard (or a high-end standard). XP doesn't even recognise if you have more than 2Gb RAM, and while Vista is much better for open-endedness, there still comes a point at around 8Gb RAM where you won't notice a difference between having 8 and 80Gb. In fact, the difference between 1Gb and 2 is far more obvious than the difference between 4 and 8, it's somewhat of an inverse exponential relationship. There will come a time when 50Gb will mean the world, but it ain't yet. Of course, on the other hand there's no such thing as a perfect system, so the best you can do is cram in every bonus to power you can find, so in that respect you have a point. For my part, I'm running a quad-core, 3.5GHz CPU Intel machine, 9600GT gfx card etc. I can process about 60 leagues of matches at about 30 seconds per matchday. That said, I don't keep my machine in the best condition, and I have been known to crash FM by trying to start a game up running too many leagues at once. Also, if I switch to a different window when FM is running all the new data generated on July 1st then it will crash FM. IIRC SI hasn't mastered multi-threading yet, so in that respect when the workload is highest, my four cores don't help me much more than a single core would... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted September 7, 2009 Share Posted September 7, 2009 Well said. I agree. The more RAM you have the higher the controller footprint, there's always a trade-off. I seldom see anything use more than 2GB of my machines RAM, but then my RAM is about speed not just capacity, and I've not even got anything particulary fast, it's just enough to not bottleneck my which a lot of prebuilt PC's seem to have a problem with by default. The problem with all this Quad Core hoo haa is that there's simply not much written either app or OS to take advantage properly. All this chat about multitasking, but in essence your OS all spread across all 2 or 4 cores. So is your antivirus/spyware/malware or combination thereof. Your software firewall, if you use one, is also spread across the cores. Live Messenger, Trillian, Yahoo Messenger, Quicktime, Email App, Xmarks, Steam.... everything is already running even before you fire up FM. FM then simply lies over the top of it. What would be cool is an easily accessible way of saying 'FM is to run high priority on 1/2/3 cores exclusively with the OS and Apps residing in the remainder, but we are a long way from having it that easy. In the meantime I think it's just brute force. FM never reaches 100% on my E6850 @ 2x3.0Ghz, it seldom runs over 50%!! So what a Quad Core going to give me? Nothing much. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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