notoriousGHT Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Twice in my experience I have taken over a club with rubbish "coaches" but excellent "youth coaches". So the solution is sack the "coaches" and promote youth coaches to "coaches" by offering new coaches. Is there anything wrong with doing this? Am I missing anything? Whats therefore is the point in youth coaches? GHT Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
max-riot Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 umm - to coach the youth team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gauvner Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Coaches in general coach all players. Youth Coaches = under 21 players only. 1st Team Coach= You get the general jist of things Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
R-dizzle Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If you buy kids then they won't become nearly as good as they could be if you have no youth team coaches... youth team coaches are just as if not more important than your first team coaches in reference to grooming young talent Edit: As stated above, if you have general coaches with good 'Working with Youngsters' then they could cover that I guess. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DivineOne Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Yes, you can have only normal coaches to coach both first team and youth team. However it is less effective. That and some youth coaches don't want to be first team coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ackter Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Youth coaches are more effective training youth players, first team coaches are more effective training first team players, and general coaches are for teams that can't afford to specialise* The difference isn't something you're going to notice unless you pay real attention to training, which is why I always just hire general coaches. *depending on their attributes of course. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harryseaess Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 To coach your youth players . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinxin Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If I'm not mistaken youth coaches generally want less payment than 1st team coaches Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eles Gergo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If I'm not mistaken youth coaches generally want less payment than 1st team coaches or not depends on their reputation and ambition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
vrisk85 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Is there a reliable source for this ? I'd assume a 7 star coach trains players the same as a 7 star youth coach.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
afced7 Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Give scouting knowledge if they're from different countries, and I believe that they may help finding good regens Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
notoriousGHT Posted June 2, 2009 Author Share Posted June 2, 2009 Give scouting knowledge if they're from different countries, and I believe that they may help finding good regens I seem to find that making Youth Coaches full "coaches" means paying them a bit more. But the result is that you have their skills shared through the whole squad. I'd also like to know the evidence that suggests a "youth coach" is better/enhanced by coaching the youth players or only youth players. Equally, the reverse for 1st Team Coach. Whats the point in having an average 1st team only coach? My problem is sacking the rubbish ones costs me a fortune! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
m_fenton Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 No, Youth Coaches train players on youth contracts, not players under 21. You can have an 18 year old on a senior contract, he'll be coached by the First Team coaches. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cornwallgunner Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If I have 5 first team coaches and five youth team coaches that would be more effective than 10 general coaches each split between the two? (assuming equal stats etc) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jakobx Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 No one knows except SI. IMO they added them to the game but forgot to implement the training module as originally intended and as a result they are kinda useless. Ive had no problem training youth players with normal coaches. Besides they are in your u18 at most for a year or two. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ezequiel_Lavezzi Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 I dont bother with youth coaches or really bother too much with training. Most youth players will be no-where near their PA until 22-24 years of age and as far as I can tell, and from the tests i have seen in the other forums, it doesn't make much of a difference how good their coaching was during 14-18. If you want good youth players, scout ones with high PA through scouts, train them on specific styles and then give them lots of play time. They will more often than not reach their high PA, regardless of how good the youth coaches were. The game usually favours high proffessionalism & determination in players. Also those with high ambition. This is more important for a player to reach their potential, above youth coaching. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
r0x0r Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 Another issue is that some of the best coaches will only sign a "first team coach" deal. Now to cover them not coaching the youths, you could bring in an extra full coach, or pay half as much for a youth coach. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Lloyd Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 If anyone can provide evidence that a youth coach with exactly the same stats as a general coach will coach youth players better, I would be very interested. My understanding is that the only difference is what players can be trained by a particular coach. As an analogy, a GK coach with 16 for the "coaching GKs" attribute would be less effective at coaching GKs than a general coach with 17 - no? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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