jedclough Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 Does anyone else have a problem with the consistency of AMCs playing in the AMC position in the game. I've noticed that at the point of kick off all my team start on 6.4 and somewhat unfairly, my AMC is starting on a 6.2 and gets progressively worse. Good performances are few and far between and this is with good quality players playing in an inferior league. In terms of tactics I've tried a whole host of different ones, none get a good response, especially not the default one. I'd be interested to hear if others are encountering the problem. It's bizarre because it's a position that has always been the easiest to fill Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULHOLMES Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I play Marek Hamsik in that role, and he fluctuates wildly. Some games he's at 7+ by half-time; others he's at 5.8. But I find that if I give him a shot in the arm at half-time -- "Prove a Point" or "You can make a difference" -- he will be at 6.9 by the end of the game, assuming I don't take him off. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deano565 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 AMC ratings are poor for lots of people, including myself, i believe its a bug. Its a similar problem to DMCs in FM08. Hopefully it will be tweaked in 9.0.3 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Campbell1892 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 yeah i have problems with this position more than any other positions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stomalomalus Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I just had David Silva on the wing on a 7. Took off my AM Elano as he had picked up a knock and movedd Silva to AMC. His rating stayed the same until he didn't score when through on goal, then his rating dropped to 5.5! A bit harsh me thinks! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncherdave Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It is a bug and will be sorted with the next patch hopefully Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bcm Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It is a bug and it made me stop playing the game, hopefully it will be fixed. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
uppercut Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 It is a bug and will be sorted with the next patch hopefully it wont be sorted, it'll be moved to another position i bet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obina+10 Posted February 23, 2009 Share Posted February 23, 2009 I also have the same trouble. I thought it was my tactics, but I guess it isn't. I have tried everything to make them play better, but nothing has worked. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 As pointed out, the AMC is not inconsistent; the ratings are. Ignore the ratings and check his player stats until the patch is out. If he's making key passes, lots of completed passes etc. and you can see that's he's playing fine, he is - regardless of the rating. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shevyi Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 If u play with a 4-2-3-1 make him play as a central midfielder with an attacking arrow... Its perfect! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedclough Posted February 24, 2009 Author Share Posted February 24, 2009 I'm glad that others have come across it as well. I must say, at times the performance doesn't fit the rating but there are a number of occasions where they seem to go missing. Anyway, I have faith that the patch will fix it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sporting_Lisbon_2008 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Pablo Aimar - Benfica - great stats. Key player as far as all coaches are concerned. Key player as far as team mates are concerned. Is total crap when you play him in the hole behind the strikers even though it is his natural position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 Same here. Playing with two strikers is almost bearable provided they both score or assist during a match, but trying to get 2 MC's whether AMC or DMC to play together always results in poor ratings. Hopefully tweaked in 9.3.0. To be honest, there's a lot of players who's primary position is AMC and cannot be deployed as an MCA as in real life. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darth Bodde Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 As pointed out, the AMC is not inconsistent; the ratings are. Ignore the ratings and check his player stats until the patch is out. If he's making key passes, lots of completed passes etc. and you can see that's he's playing fine, he is - regardless of the rating. The problem is, his match rating affects his confidence, morale, etc Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stokes_83 Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 its the inconsistent programmers, not the inconsistent AMC This is the #1 thing I am hoping the fix in the update Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.W. Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 dont forget that many AMCs in real life go un talked about or get criticism unless they score, get an assist or have an immaculate passing success rate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
given1legend Posted February 24, 2009 Share Posted February 24, 2009 very true J.W. It takes an outstanding AMC to get the recognition. Regularly they are inconsistent in real life like mine are in the game. Look at Elano for example, outstanding last year usually but this season he has been poor. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimmyWangYang Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'm curious as to how much this is a "bug", and how much this is deliberate by SI. All I know is that no matter who I play in the AMC with Liverpool, they all get poor ratings - except when I use the world class Steven Gerrard. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I've found that if you switch your AMC to the wing, for example, his ratings magically shoot up, even though you've not played more than a minute more. Then you can move him back and they go down again. It's a bug, I'm sure. I think that SI have said that it's a 'known issue'. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Same here. My wingers get great rating constantly, but I could get neither Cahill, nor Vukcevic, van der Vaart or Pirlo get to get any decent average rating on an MC position even with mainly offensive duties. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I tend to actually shift my AMC to the wing and then sub him just before the end of the match. That means that he ends up with a reasonable rating and so you don't get the problems with him getting poor morale and the fans moaning about him. It's a nuisance though. Hope they fix it in the patch (I think that they said that they will). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I tend to actually shift my AMC to the wing and then sub him just before the end of the match. That means that he ends up with a reasonable rating and so you don't get the problems with him getting poor morale and the fans moaning about him.It's a nuisance though. Hope they fix it in the patch (I think that they said that they will). Wait. If you shift an AMC to the wing for a short time , he'll get a considerably better rating? For how long? And why does he 'need' to be subbed for that? If that workaround works, there could hardly be any better prove that there is a serious ratings flaw Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I didn't discover this. Someone else did (sorry, for the life of me I can't remember who it was or where I saw it) and I read his post and tried it and it worked (for me, anyway). If you move the AMC, I've found that his rating changes almost at once. Try it! The AMC isn't actually playing badly as I understand it, it's just that the rating is all wrong. If you leave it, he ends with a rating of 5.4 or something, when he didn't deserve it. So I swap his position and sub him just before the end of the match so that his full time rating is 6.7 or whatever it turns out to be. Edit: People have also said that this problem only started after Patch 9.2. So that would prove that it was a bug I'd have thought. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oncho Shaldzhiyan Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I hope they will fix it with the patch (if there will be such some day). I love this position, and every tactic, I am using has an AMC. 3 and a half months AMC position has not been corrected from the creators of the game. Lets hope we have waited enough! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jedclough Posted February 25, 2009 Author Share Posted February 25, 2009 I play a 4-2-3-1 formation with two holding midfielders and two wingers and an AMC. I've found that by setting my AMC up to rarely make forward runs and run with the ball often, as well as direct passing he performs much better, linking with midfield and playing plenty of through balls. The only issue with that is, he's rarely in the box and it's impacted on my more attacking holding midfielder. Suddenly, the player in that position is performing poorly, or at least his ratings are poor. It's like squeezing a half filled balloon, the problem pops up somewhere else. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Edit: People have also said that this problem only started after Patch 9.2. So that would prove that it was a bug I'd have thought. That's correct. IIRC, out of the box, the DMCs got the rubbish ratings, so SI fixed that for 9.1.0 Unfortuntely then the strikers who didn't score or head the ball got rubbish ratings. In fixing that for 9.2.0 they shifted the bug to AMCs Let's hope that in 9.3.0 another position isn't affected and all the ratings are fair. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indi75 Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Everyone should start on 6.4. This affects MC's as well as AMC's, and i'm not convinced LM/LMA don't get a harsh rub of the green as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Let's hope that in 9.3.0 another position isn't affected and all the ratings are fair. Perhaps the new patch will have it affecting ALL positions...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I didn't discover this. Someone else did (sorry, for the life of me I can't remember who it was or where I saw it) I'll still cherish you for providing that info to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rupal Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 I'll still cherish you for providing that info to me Have you found that it works all right? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayahr Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 No, I'm at work, but I'm sure it does Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jamiehex Posted February 25, 2009 Share Posted February 25, 2009 Use him as a playmaker and he will consistantly get 8.0+. The only time he will get 5's is when he deserves it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
phnompenhandy Posted February 26, 2009 Share Posted February 26, 2009 Use him as a playmaker and he will consistantly get 8.0+. The only time he will get 5's is when he deserves it. Not true at all; my AMCs (Fabregas/Modric) are my playmakers and they often get poor ratings whilst playing well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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