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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Facilities. Oct 2022

We've managed to generate some cash, (no I'm not telling you how), so I have decided to invest it in our facilities. 

 

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

That was before this season's FA Cup run. 

FA Cup. We're still a Tier 9 side, and the chances are we might remain so for some time because there is only 1 promotion spot available from this level. Needless to say I'm REALLY pleased with this Cup run after not winning a single game in any of the Cup competitions last season. It's also worth noting the attendances too. Our average attendance last season was just under 300. This Cup run is going to skew this season's average considerably.

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The only problem is that while we have only played 13 league games this season, we have already played 7 Cup games, (we lost in the FA Vase). The only cup I'm really prioritising is the United Counties League Cup, because we got to the Semi-Final 2 seasons ago and not only is it "winnable", but once we get promoted we won't get another chance to win it. 

I can see the dots to join up here...

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Jobs offered. Jan 2023.

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I'm getting offered a lot of jobs at the moment so I'm only going to attend interviews at clubs playing at Tier 6 and above now, (so that's Conference North/South or National League North/South in new money). 

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6 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2022

Another GK and a couple of centre-mids. What I really want are defenders. At least the number of full-backs is decent. 

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Youth Intake day. Mar 2023.

I didn't notice the intake message so this is being posted 8 days after the intake arrived. While the PPA rating is still the same in that they are all at 5.0, the CA rating is very different to usual. What it usually shows, (on day 1), is just gold stars based on CA compared to the senior squad, but what it's showing now a week later is both gold and silver stars, (the silver stars relating to CA compared to Youth squad ability). 

We have 6 players with at least 1.0 CA when compared to senior squad CA. 

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Squad by PPA. This looks amazing, not because of the CA or PA ratings, but simply because of the Nationalities. 

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I don't really think there is much point posting what the best player looks like, but I can see what the players look like and anyone reading can only go on what I post in the thread, so I think I will start posting 1 player from each intake, based either on CA or..... something. 

(23b) Mark Carroll.

Some of you might look at this and see so few attributes in double figures and think he's rubbish, (and he is), but I am slowly getting used to looking at the detail. What I see when I look at him now is that he has passing of 8, vision of 9 and technique 10. With pace and natural fitness also in double figures his physical ability is decent for this level. I look at him and think that he could be a DLP(s) but on the other hand maybe he is the perfect link up man to play as my left sided AF(a). I'm reluctant to re-train him with such limited resources available though so...... on the other hand, maybe I could play him wide right as a WP(s). 

Something that's really hard in a save like this is working out what players are suited to playing in what roles because their attributes are all so poor that they are basically pretty rubbish at everything. What I have found is that you really have to focus on the positives and ignore any deficiencies. You have to absolutely eke out whatever you can from a player. I'm not using an AMC, I don't particularly think that this player is suited to playing up front, but I have to get something out of him. I suppose the answer is that I will shoe-horn him into whatever position becomes available as and when I have an opening. 

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I often use CA star ratings as a VERY basic guide when judging players, but I'm finding that VERY hard here. Until now I have basically just been slowly building up the squad with products of the Academy, while getting rid of most of the players I inherited at the club. They are not all gone yet, but they will be soon. After 4 intakes, (64 players), we now have 60 players at the club.

Senior Squad. There are still 4 "inherited" players in the Senior squad. 

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U23's. There are another 2 "inherited" players in the U23's and their says are numbered. 

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U18's. The PA rating is completely useless at the moment because only 4 players in the whole club don't have 5.0 PA rating. I'm desperate to improve the CA of our best players so that the PA stars start to become an effective tool. 

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Season Summary. Apr 2023.

United Counties Premier Division. We started off poorly, (again), and I think this is down to player unhappiness that originates from our code of conduct that saw me take no action over any red or yellow card offences. I think I'm going to try and avoid that by introducing a proper code of conduct next season. It's hard to get out of this league because of the single promotion spot and I think the discipline games will have to wait until later in the save. 

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Final League table. I'm happy with 6th. We've continued to smash in the goals, (108 scored this season), but we're still conceding too many, (although things are much improved). 

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FA Cup. I'm really pleased with this. I didn't target this competition at all, but I think the home draws helped, (and Beaconsfield had a player sent off in the 1st half). 

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FA Vase

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United Counties League Cup. I was prioritising this competition and will continue to do so because if/when we get promoted, we won't be able to play in it again unless we are relegated. 

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Goal-scoring keepers. No goals from free-kicks this season, (after 5 and 1 from open play last season), but (20e) Saydee did manage to convert 8 from 8 penalties at 100%.

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Overall Best XI.

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Awards.

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Squad by appearances

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Discipline. I purposefully increased the pitch size at the beginning of the season to help with results and the knock-on effect is that we were less effective at collecting cards. I think I'm going to put the ill-discipline part of the save on the back-burner for a while. 

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Finances

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Facilities

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The above 2 upgrades have not been reflected in the Facilities yet, but I will edit when it pops. 

[Edit] Yes, they have both popped from 3 to 6 about a month later. 

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Transfers

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Records.

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I'm surprised to see you delegating all tasks as I would think with a youth only you'd want to have more control over developing the newgens.

Following though as I enjoy these lower league saves and maybe I might pick up some tips for my German lower league save :brock:

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Aug 2023

United Counties Premier. We're 1 of 4 unbeaten sides in the league after the 1st month, but the other 3 have each played a game less. 

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FA Cup. The difference between a home tie and an away tie is significant. 

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Goal-scoring keepers. It's 5 goals in the 1st month for (20e) Saydee as he scored 3 penalties from 3 attempts and 2 nice free-kicks. He's scored 5 goals in 8 games in the 1st month. He only scored 8 goals in 49 games last season.

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3 minutes ago, metallimuse said:

I'm surprised to see you delegating all tasks as I would think with a youth only you'd want to have more control over developing the newgens.

Following though as I enjoy these lower league saves and maybe I might pick up some tips for my German lower league save :brock:

Before you take any advice from me at all, please be aware that I am still receiving counselling for a Youth Only save managing Regensburg where I was unceremoniously sacked. :lol:

I delegate as much as I can. At this stage i'm delegating the appointment of all staff, (because they are all rubbish), but I will look to appoint some with better personalities/Nationalities later in the save. 

I keep control of individual training, (and I'm particularly fond of using PPM's), but I delegate team training. I delegate just about everything else and didn't even bother to "meet the media" in this save. As I play using an IR button, team-talks and tunnel interviews are largely irrelevant. 

The biggest issue in the way I play and the development of youth is that you can't put youngsters on the bench and then blood them from the bench when the game is on, (because you are not in charge of substitutes and the Ass Man simply won't play a youngster who is not ready). Instead, what you have to do is START the youngster, hope that you can survive until half-time and then rely on the Ass Man dragging him off and replacing him with a stringer player. 

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16 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Before you take any advice from me at all, please be aware that I am still receiving counselling for a Youth Only save managing Regensburg where I was unceremoniously sacked. :lol:

I delegate as much as I can. At this stage i'm delegating the appointment of all staff, (because they are all rubbish), but I will look to appoint some with better personalities/Nationalities later in the save. 

I keep control of individual training, (and I'm particularly fond of using PPM's), but I delegate team training. I delegate just about everything else and didn't even bother to "meet the media" in this save. As I play using an IR button, team-talks and tunnel interviews are largely irrelevant. 

The biggest issue in the way I play and the development of youth is that you can't put youngsters on the bench and then blood them from the bench when the game is on, (because you are not in charge of substitutes and the Ass Man simply won't play a youngster who is not ready). Instead, what you have to do is START the youngster, hope that you can survive until half-time and then rely on the Ass Man dragging him off and replacing him with a stringer player. 

I use IR too - the annoyance of having your Ass Man make 3 subs at half time to take off the youngsters, just because they are youngsters. I normally try and start 4 or 5 of them in the beginning to ensure that at least 2 of them can get a full 90 in

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4 minutes ago, KibworthBull said:

I use IR too - the annoyance of having your Ass Man make 3 subs at half time to take off the youngsters, just because they are youngsters. I normally try and start 4 or 5 of them in the beginning to ensure that at least 2 of them can get a full 90 in

What I would say is that depending on their age, you actually don't want to play them a full 90. It takes it's toll later in their career if you play them too much too early. Playing them for 45 mins is plenty. It also has less of an impact on performances. 

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23 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Before you take any advice from me at all, please be aware that I am still receiving counselling for a Youth Only save managing Regensburg where I was unceremoniously sacked. :lol:

I delegate as much as I can. At this stage i'm delegating the appointment of all staff, (because they are all rubbish), but I will look to appoint some with better personalities/Nationalities later in the save. 

I keep control of individual training, (and I'm particularly fond of using PPM's), but I delegate team training. I delegate just about everything else and didn't even bother to "meet the media" in this save. As I play using an IR button, team-talks and tunnel interviews are largely irrelevant. 

The biggest issue in the way I play and the development of youth is that you can't put youngsters on the bench and then blood them from the bench when the game is on, (because you are not in charge of substitutes and the Ass Man simply won't play a youngster who is not ready). Instead, what you have to do is START the youngster, hope that you can survive until half-time and then rely on the Ass Man dragging him off and replacing him with a stringer player. 

Ah so you are still doing training, I thought you'd delegated all aspects of the game and you were just choosing tactics and starting 11.

That makes a bit more sense.

I remember your posts in one of the youth only challenge threads last year, taught me so many things and opened my eyes a bit. 

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21 minutes ago, metallimuse said:

Ah so you are still doing training, I thought you'd delegated all aspects of the game and you were just choosing tactics and starting 11.

That makes a bit more sense.

I remember your posts in one of the youth only challenge threads last year, taught me so many things and opened my eyes a bit. 

I think I delegated absolutely everything during the 1st season, but that was really just so I could speed through. I hate 1st seasons in saves even when they're not youth only. 

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Doing great  so far in new season! 

The amount of interviews is crazy ! Do you do any qualifications as you go along or you waiting for higher tiers ?

 

Do you expect to make it to PL with youths ? 

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1 hour ago, rrozek93 said:

Doing great  so far in new season! 

The amount of interviews is crazy ! Do you do any qualifications as you go along or you waiting for higher tiers ?

Do you expect to make it to PL with youths ? 

It was a great start. Unfortunately it hasn't continued. :lol:

I'm surprised by how many interviews too. No, I don't have any qualifications yet and I started with Sunday league reputation. 

Do I expect to make the Premier League with Youth Only? I haven't a clue to be honest. That's obviously 1 of the aim but time will tell. I'm pretty relaxed about how this save goes. Just going with the flow at the moment. I've never started at a club with 1.1.1.1 facilities so this is new to me. Also never played this low down anywhere. 

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28 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

It was a great start. Unfortunately it hasn't continued. :lol:

I'm surprised by how many interviews too. No, I don't have any qualifications yet and I started with Sunday league reputation. 

Do I expect to make the Premier League with Youth Only? I haven't a clue to be honest. That's obviously 1 of the aim but time will tell. I'm pretty relaxed about how this save goes. Just going with the flow at the moment. I've never started at a club with 1.1.1.1 facilities so this is new to me. Also never played this low down anywhere. 

It will take years but I think the youth intake depends on Nation Youth Rating so this probably determines how rare good youths are and how far you will be able to advance with Youth Only. 

Anyway can't wait to see what happens. 

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11 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

You've had 2 different nationality Jimbo's so far. What are you going to do if the same Nationality gets repeated? 

It has just happened with the latest intake! 

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10 hours ago, rrozek93 said:

It will take years but I think the youth intake depends on Nation Youth Rating so this probably determines how rare good youths are and how far you will be able to advance with Youth Only. 

Anyway can't wait to see what happens. 

Yes, it took a looooong time in Wales and that was with the Youth Rating, (I couldn't work out how to see it in the editor), probably at a significantly lower value in Wales than it is in England. 

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10 hours ago, Nobby_McDonald said:

Racing through the seasons as normal Jimbo. Not making to rapid progress yet though. Still time though. Knowing you you'll fly up soon.

Yeah, it's hard to to do too much too early when I've got a 32 year old and a 24 year old and everyone else in the squad is under 21. We're still really weak defensively and nowhere near consistent enough for promotion. It's obviously made harder too by the fact that there is just a single promotion spot. (Speaking of which, assuming that the database is correct, why are there no Playoffs at Tier 9?) :mad:

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Just now, nie jem frytek said:

Another great Jimbo thread :applause:

Thanks very much. :thup: It's such early days at the moment that there isn't an awful lot to say. We're just plodding along waiting for everything to improve and see what goes from there. 

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7 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2023

A Golden Generation is expected at the moment because of the poor CA of our players. 

A GK, a winger and 2 centre-mids. :thup:

No defenders though. :thdn:

A Colombian GK!  (Higuita). :cool:

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Youth Intake. Mar 2024

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Squad by PPA

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3.5 CA is the best we have produced so far and (24k) Gustavo Miranda (COL) is certainly worth taking a closer look at. It's hard to make head or tail of the PA at the moment because everyone is just at 5.0 so it doesn't mean anything. (24k) Gustavo Miranda (COL) is very similar in CA to current starting GK (20e) Saydee, (and both have 5.0 PA), so it remains to be seen if I should swap things round or stick with what I know. The fact that we are conceding so many goals is a vote in the minus column, but his ability to put the ball in the opposition net is a tick the plus column. 

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I really like the look of (24a) Karl Leggit. Good mentals and has the basics of a decent technical ability, although physicals are a little lacking. Still like him though.

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I've mentioned before that I don't use AMC's, so the question is where to play (24e) Jason Peet? I think he looks like a DLP(s) to me with technique, first touch and vision. 

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I wonder if (24f) Derrick Kizito (UGA) might be the 1st International player produced by our Academy. Is he good enough to play for Uganda and if so will he choose Uganda over England

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Wow. :eek: Wasn't expecting this! (24j) Alarcón (ESP) looks fantastic and I just don't understand how he is only rated at 1.0 CA. He looks phenomenal! He will be an immediate starter with that passing and vision. 

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This is a proper picture of the trophy. 

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Season Summary

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United Counties Premier Division. We started off great, but the problem with such a young squad is that they are just so inconsistent. 

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Final League Table. This is a slightly false league position because I concentrated on the United Counties League Cup throughout, and also concentrated much more on PA than CA when selecting the squad once it became apparent that we weren't going to win the league. 

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FA Cup

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FA Vase

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United Counties League Cup. Our 1st trophy is done and dusted. 

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Goal-scoring keepers. (20e) Saydee finishes the season with 11 goals and 8 assists. 8 penalties from 11 attempted and 3 direct free-kicks. He has been our 1st choice GK since he came through the Academy, but the list is toggled by CA so the suggestion is that (24k) Gustavo (COL) is already better than him. When I filter the GK's by PA, then it's (20e) and (22a) who top the list followed by (23c) and (24k). It would seem that the keepers with the best CA have the poorest PA. Usually what I would do is just pick the player with the best PA, but they are all showing as 5.0 PA so the difference might be minimal and there is no guarantee that the PPA which is how they are listed, is actually the same at the actual PA. At the moment I have to stick with CA until the PA rating starts to be of use. 

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Overall best XI. (20e) Saydee now has the most appearances for the club with 188. (21a) Keith Morre (WAL) is just 6 goals shy of the club record held by inherited player Parkinson (ATG). I will be much happier when a product of the Academy holds the scoring record at the club.

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Awards.

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Squad by appearances.

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Discipline. (This is very much on the back-burner).

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Finances.

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Facilities

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Transfers.

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Tracker

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Records

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Squad Dynamics. I'm in the process of phasing Parkinson (ATG) out, and that will leave us with 0 leaders and just 1 highly influential player. Of the influential players, Luke Civil is also going to be released which weakens things still further in this area. 

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10 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Yes, it took a looooong time in Wales and that was with the Youth Rating, (I couldn't work out how to see it in the editor), probably at a significantly lower value in Wales than it is in England. 

Go to nation Edit Nation Details -> Generated Players tab. there it is 0 - 200. Unfortunately I think this value is static, I will be observing it in my save whether it actually increases if you overachieve with a team in a smaller country. 

I edited this once to 200 and first youth intake brought loads of players with PA over 160 with best being 189

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42 minutes ago, rrozek93 said:

Go to nation Edit Nation Details -> Generated Players tab. there it is 0 - 200. Unfortunately I think this value is static, I will be observing it in my save whether it actually increases if you overachieve with a team in a smaller country. 

I edited this once to 200 and first youth intake brought loads of players with PA over 160 with best being 189

ahhh ok. Thanks. :thup:

The following contains info about the National rating level in the editor, so if this isn't your think then just don't click on the spoiler. 

Apologies to anyone who has already seen info they would prefer not to see. 

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Wales was 71 which explains the issue I had there in my last save. 

Scotland 83.
Ireland 83.
England has 120. 
Holland 122.
France 140.
Spain 140.
Argentina.
Italy 144. 
Brazil 163.

I wish it wasn't static. 

I wish it was linked to something fluid. 

That being said. It is static and it is *the above figure* so that's what we've got and I have to get on with it. 

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1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

ahhh ok. Thanks. :thup:

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Wales was 71 which explains the issue I had there in my last save. 

Scotland 83.
Ireland 83.
England has 120. 
Holland 122.
France 140.
Spain 140.
Argentina.
Italy 144. 
Brazil 163.

I wish it wasn't static. 

I wish it was linked to something fluid. 

That being said. It is static and it is *the above figure* so that's what we've got and I have to get on with it. 

Off there is still a good chance to get really good regen with high PA but it's just less likely unfortunately.
Maybe its not static? 

Imagine what needs to happen in real life to for the football to pick up to next level. A lot of clubs need a lot of good facilities, good coaches etc.

Maybe it's not static but needs generations and clubs facilities across the league or country to increase. Would be good to check the value in your Wales save and see if it improved a little. 

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2 minutes ago, rrozek93 said:

Off there is still a good chance to get really good regen with high PA but it's just less likely unfortunately.
Maybe its not static? 

Imagine what needs to happen in real life to for the football to pick up to next level. A lot of clubs need a lot of good facilities, good coaches etc.

Maybe it's not static but needs generations and clubs facilities across the league or country to increase. Would be good to check the value in your Wales save and see if it improved a little. 

I'm 99.99% sure it's static. 

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Facilities. May 2024

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I don't think that the Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment upgrades happen immediately. I think there is a delay so I think if I check back in 1 month, (so on 24th Jun), it will have popped to better than 6. 

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36 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Facilities. May 2024

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I don't think that the Junior Coaching and Youth Recruitment upgrades happen immediately. I think there is a delay so I think if I check back in 1 month, (so on 24th Jun), it will have popped to better than 6. 

Update. Jun 2024.

Sure enough, 1 month later and the Youth Recruitment value has "popped", but the description remains the same. It's interesting that the "pop" has taken the level from 6 to 9. 

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Our bank balance is only £71,118 so we can't afford either a Training or Youth Facility upgrade.

The date is Jul 2024 and I'm delighted that we have got Junior Coaching to Level 10 and Youth recruitment to Level 9

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Favoured personnel. Jul 2024

I forgot to check this at the end of last season. 

When I checked it last week, (21a) Keith Moore (WAL) had popped to Legend and I had been added as Favoured Personnel. A week later and I've vanished. :(

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3 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Favoured personnel. Jul 2024

I forgot to check this at the end of last season. 

When I checked it last week, (21a) Keith Moore (WAL) had popped to Legend and I had been added as Favoured Personnel. A week later and I've vanished. :(

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I guess you have been there before in your Wales save. However I read about it that's it's difficult to have legends status. Me after 10 seasons at 1860 munchen winning bundesligas and CL was only an icon 

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9 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Favoured personnel. Jul 2024

I forgot to check this at the end of last season. 

When I checked it last week, (21a) Keith Moore (WAL) had popped to Legend and I had been added as Favoured Personnel. A week later and I've vanished. :(

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I've never really looked at the following page too much. 

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I don't know at what level you go onto the favoured personnel list, but there is some point at which your position on the list becomes permanent. 

(21a) Keith Moore (WAL) and Parkinson (ATG) are both on the list permanently now, but I don't have a permanent tick. I will keep an eye on this. 

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8 minutes ago, rrozek93 said:

I guess you have been there before in your Wales save. However I read about it that's it's difficult to have legends status. Me after 10 seasons at 1860 munchen winning bundesligas and CL was only an icon 

I can't remember actually, but I assume so. I've never had a problem getting on the list in the past. My problem has always been that a player usually gets to ICON on the list before me and the New Stadium is always named after him or the club and never me. :mad: :lol:

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Oh, but I've just seen another part of that page. 

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So "Can Name Stadium After Person" isn't ticked for any of the 4 on the list. I will keep checking on that too. 

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Aug 2024

United Counties Premier. We've kept 2 clean sheets at home, but we've conceded 6, 5, 5 and 3 goals away from home. We're not going to get promoted until I can fix our away defensive woes. On the other hand, we're scoring goals for fun and away from home have scored 5, 3, 3 and 3 goals, but they earned us only 2 points. 

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FA Cup. If anything I picked a stronger side for the replay, but the difference between home and away is significant at the moment. 

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Goal-scoring keepers. (20e) Saydee has scored 3 penalties from 3 attempts to bring him to 36 career goals. 

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Records

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