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2 hours ago, Mac97 said:

What should I be looking for instead of the a9 then? 

 

1 hour ago, Mac97 said:

How about this one ASUS M409DA-EB160T

 

46 minutes ago, Mac97 said:

Which is better Lenovo V145 AMD A9-9425 Or the  ASUS VivoBook X512

We'd need the links to these.

And also your budget - if your budget is below £550 then it's going to be a crapshoot.

You're better off not buying anything, hold onto the money - and save up more to get you over the £550 price - and then you can get a semi-decent laptop for FM.

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Hello again. What do you think of the HP Pavilion Gaming 15-EC-1011NS, which has a ryzen 5 5600H, gtx 1650 4gb, 8gb ram and 512gb ssd?

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15 hours ago, matt_forest said:

What code did you use to get that much knocked off?

I used the discounts for teachers site.

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2 hours ago, tsoares182005 said:

Hello again. What do you think of the HP Pavilion Gaming 15-EC-1011NS, which has a ryzen 5 5600H, gtx 1650 4gb, 8gb ram and 512gb ssd?

You mean 4600H? 

Yes it will be good for FM.

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

Você quer dizer 4600H? 

Sim, será bom para FM.

Yes, i'm Sorry. And this:

Asus X571 Intel Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB SSD/GTX1650/15.6" (PT)

689€ and wheighs 1,8kg.

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3 hours ago, Malicious Penguin said:

I used the discounts for teachers site.

Thanks. After posting that I was thinking maybe it'd be some student/ teacher type discount. I don't really need a laptop at the minute but that one looks so good for the price that I'm very tempted

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1 hour ago, tsoares182005 said:

Yes, i'm Sorry. And this:

Asus X571 Intel Core i5-9300H/8GB/512GB SSD/GTX1650/15.6" (PT)

689€ and wheighs 1,8kg.

So about the same price? The Ryzen should perform better. 

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As it relates to Intel CPU’s.

What’s more important for processing  FM & advancing faster as you are deep into a save
An i5 with a higher clock speed or an i7 with a lower clock speed? Or is it not that simple?

 

Thanks

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Hi there,

Could someone help me out with telling me what I would need to upgrade on this iMac to make it run FM near perfectly - ie. could I run 10 full nations 20 years into the future at a decent speed and run other apps in the background as well?

If I wanted to stream in the future would this do the trick out of the box?

https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/imac/21.5-inch-3.0ghz-6-core-processor-with-turbo-boost-up-to-4.1ghz-1tb#

OR

Would I need to upgrade from the default options to:

Processer to 3.2GHz 6-core eighth-generation Intel Core i7 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz

Memory to 32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory

and the Storage to 1TB of SSD storage.

 

These decisions can double the price so I want to make sure I actually need the upgrades before I buy...

 

Apologies if this is unclear, I'm not very knowledgeable in this area :)

Thank very much!

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4 hours ago, jeaku14 said:

Hi there,

Could someone help me out with telling me what I would need to upgrade on this iMac to make it run FM near perfectly - ie. could I run 10 full nations 20 years into the future at a decent speed and run other apps in the background as well?

If I wanted to stream in the future would this do the trick out of the box?

https://www.apple.com/au/shop/buy-mac/imac/21.5-inch-3.0ghz-6-core-processor-with-turbo-boost-up-to-4.1ghz-1tb#

OR

Would I need to upgrade from the default options to:

Processer to 3.2GHz 6-core eighth-generation Intel Core i7 processor with Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz

Memory to 32GB of 2666MHz DDR4 memory

and the Storage to 1TB of SSD storage.

 

These decisions can double the price so I want to make sure I actually need the upgrades before I buy...

 

Apologies if this is unclear, I'm not very knowledgeable in this area :)

Thank very much!

i5 and i7 are just branding. The important information is the age of the processor (more recent ones are more efficient and faster overall), core and thread count (more is better) and then frequency. Laptop i7's used to  be 2 core/4 thread but now you'll find i5's which are 6 core/12 thread and would therefore be much faster.

6th Gen is 4 years old at this point so would be far slower than a more modern CPU.

Are you set on an Apple or would a Windows or Linux PC be in consideration?

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23 minutes ago, Gangor said:

i5 and i7 are just branding.

Absolutely rubbish! What are you talking about! It's not just branding.

They are guides to general performance. 

Certain i3 and i7 processors support hyperthreading - i5 processors do not support hyperthreading.
Rumour is that hyperthreading may be dropped for all processors except i9 processors.

i3 processors do not support turbo boost, but the i5 and i7 have turbo boost.

The other relevance of i3 vs i5 vs i7 is the Cache sizes:
i3 have usually 3mb cache
i5 between 3 and 6mb cache
i7 between 4 and 8mb cache

And a general guide to performance is
i3 = fairly basic computer performace (although they are very capable i3 processors for FM)
i5 = intermediate peformace (although some i3's can outperform an i5 or even an i7 processor depending on models)
i7 = performance users (good for FM as it's a processor heavy task).

However, the caveat here is that processors are model specific designed for specific types of users, like portability, longer battery lasting, performance, higher cache levels, etc.

 

It's certainly not just branding - they are dividing their range into different branches of users.

 

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How does this one look?

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-inspiron-15-3000-15-6-laptop-amd-ryzen-5-256-gb-ssd-silver-10190038-pdt.html
 

Wont be playing in 3D just want as many leagues as possible while running 5 star please? 

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11 hours ago, Smurf said:

It's certainly not just branding - they are dividing their range into different branches of users.

Perhaps to be more precise I should have said "market segmentation" instead. Consider that this year's i5 is functionally the same as the i7 from two years ago (with a bit of an overclock). What @Smurf says is quite accurate within a specific generation, but you shouldn't be looking at the label on the processor if they are from different generations. My 3rd gen i7 for instance would be smashed by this year's i3. 

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Evening all.

Currently looking at investing in a new laptop. For FM I’d be wanting to run 6-8 nations with all leagues and a large database. I doubt I’d want to run any graphically intensive games on it and aside from FM, will likely just use it for general browsing and office stuff.

Got a 10% off code for Curry’s so looking exclusively on there. Budget around £700 - £750.

Boiled it down to these three:

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/lenovo-series-3-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-256-gb-ssd-10205977-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/dell-g3-15-3500-15-6-gaming-laptop-intel-core-i5-gtx-1650-ti-512-gb-ssd-10206288-pdt.html

https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-5-a514-52-14-laptop-intel-core-i7-512-gb-ssd-silver-10200175-pdt.html

Open to any other suggestions of course!

Any help appreciated - thanks in advance!

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18 hours ago, Gangor said:

Perhaps to be more precise I should have said "market segmentation" instead. Consider that this year's i5 is functionally the same as the i7 from two years ago (with a bit of an overclock). What @Smurf says is quite accurate within a specific generation, but you shouldn't be looking at the label on the processor if they are from different generations. My 3rd gen i7 for instance would be smashed by this year's i3. 

Each model number tells the story.

Of course a 3rd gen i7 would be smashed by an i3 of this year, - there's no denying that - except there are cases where a 3rd gen i7 would be better than newer i3 processor in many regards. 

You can't rely on i3, i5, or i7 as a binding guide - it comes to the breakdown of the number after this.

Your 3rd gen i7 would be i7-3xxx? and a newer i3 would i3-10xxx

Where the bold numbers indicate the generation date - which are 3rd and 10th. 

So a processor from 7 years ago  would not be as good as a new processor - there's that possibilty. But you'd need the model numbers to compare.

 

 

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Decided to go with Alienware via Dell Outlet, 10% off including 2% chat discount. $1,312 US

 

Dell Outlet Alienware m15 R2 Laptop

Intel Core 9th Generation i7-9750H Processor (6 Core, Up to 4.50GHz, 12MB Cache, 45W)

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6

16GB (2x8GB) 2666MHz DDR4

512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive

15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) 240Hz 7ms 300-nits sRGB 100% color gamut Non-Touch Display

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Hey guys,

I haven't played for a few years as my old laptop broke, looking to get a new one as I will be going to uni. Will only need it for general school use, word processing and stuff, and for FM. I don't play 3D and would want around 10 playable leagues with large database. I'd be playing fairly casually but when on, hoping play for hours at a time, and won't be doing much multitasking on the laptop. Bit of a noob with computers but I'm trying to research. Would either of these be recommended? 

Thanks.

https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/lenovo-15-6-ideapad-slim-notebook-core-i5-81we0001au-slnslim3i5#specifications

https://www.centrecom.com.au/msi-alpha-15-a3dc-243au-156-fhd-ryzen-5-3550h-rx-5300m-laptop

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14 hours ago, Heywood JaBlowme said:

Decided to go with Alienware via Dell Outlet, 10% off including 2% chat discount. $1,312 US

Dell Outlet Alienware m15 R2 Laptop
Intel Core 9th Generation i7-9750H Processor (6 Core, Up to 4.50GHz, 12MB Cache, 45W)
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 2060 6GB GDDR6
16GB (2x8GB) 2666MHz DDR4

512GB PCIe M.2 NVMe Class 40 Solid State Drive

15.6 inch FHD (1920 x 1080) 240Hz 7ms 300-nits sRGB 100% color gamut Non-Touch Display

That's very decent. I take it you're buying in the US?

If so, I don't know where to buy in the US or if you're getting a good deal.

Specs look good though. 

2 hours ago, ajadvor said:

Hey guys,

I haven't played for a few years as my old laptop broke, looking to get a new one as I will be going to uni. Will only need it for general school use, word processing and stuff, and for FM. I don't play 3D and would want around 10 playable leagues with large database. I'd be playing fairly casually but when on, hoping play for hours at a time, and won't be doing much multitasking on the laptop. Bit of a noob with computers but I'm trying to research. Would either of these be recommended? 

Thanks.

https://www.officeworks.com.au/shop/officeworks/p/lenovo-15-6-ideapad-slim-notebook-core-i5-81we0001au-slnslim3i5#specifications

https://www.centrecom.com.au/msi-alpha-15-a3dc-243au-156-fhd-ryzen-5-3550h-rx-5300m-laptop

The 2nd one is better.

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On 09/07/2020 at 10:24, Malicious Penguin said:

Sorry to be a pain...!

 

Is the Dell worth £170 more than the HP?

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Hi Guys

I'm looking for a fast gaming desktop pc will only be playing FM and motorsport games on it.

Can anybody point me in the right direction under £400 if possible,

I've looked at a couple but not being a genius on these things I am not sure either of them would be the one to buy.

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2 hours ago, thnigelfc said:

Hi Guys

I'm looking for a fast gaming desktop pc will only be playing FM and motorsport games on it.

Can anybody point me in the right direction under £400 if possible,

I've looked at a couple but not being a genius on these things I am not sure either of them would be the one to buy.

In that price range look for a 2nd hand pre-built with an i5 of some description and 8gb of RAM and then install a GTX 1650 graphics card (make sure you get a 75w version) in it.

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11 hours ago, Malicious Penguin said:

Sorry to be a pain...!

 

Is the Dell worth £170 more than the HP?

From those two I'd still stick with the HP. I haven't had the best experience with Dell computers in the past so maybe I'm a little biased against them, but I don't see enough there to make it work an extra £170.  The comparison I've linked below doesn't show a huge difference between the CPUs and I doubt the better GPU will have much difference when it comes to FM. The specs say the Dell has a bigger SSD but slower RAM than the HP, but both of those could be added to/ upgraded. So the money you save getting the HP could go on adding internal storage or getting an external hard drive for a few quid.

https://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i5-10300H-vs-AMD-Ryzen-5-4600H/m1027882vsm1110331 

These reviews aren't exactly the same models but I guess a lot of the points would relate to the laptops you'd picked

HP - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m72MYwUqG9s

Dell - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d03OQFx1b-Q

 

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On 11/07/2020 at 09:37, ashey said:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-V15-ADA-15-6-Laptop/dp/B0876B3MLS/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=lenovo+v15&qid=1594451440&sr=8-3

Would this laptop be suitable to run FM20 at a decent speed? FM is the only game I play so I'm not after spending loads on an expensive gaming laptop. Thanks

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/-82c70010uk/version.asp#!#maindesc

I found the same laptop for £100 less but you'd have to install windows yourself. Personally I wouldn't touch this laptop for gaming but I've had workmate asking me to find a machine for FM below or around £300, which brought me to this

[EDIT] Looking in to this one a little more I found a mistake in the one I linked to from LaptopsDirect. They have it listed as having a Ryzen 3 3500u but I don't think that exists. Its more likely they mean its a Ryzen 3 3250u whichmeans I'd be even less likely to buy this laptop for FM

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12 hours ago, Gangor said:

In that price range look for a 2nd hand pre-built with an i5 of some description and 8gb of RAM and then install a GTX 1650 graphics card (make sure you get a 75w version) in it.

Thanks Gangor, Any idea How much one would cost to have everything installed already?

To play these games?

 

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15 hours ago, matt_forest said:

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/-82c70010uk/version.asp#!#maindesc

I found the same laptop for £100 less but you'd have to install windows yourself. Personally I wouldn't touch this laptop for gaming but I've had workmate asking me to find a machine for FM below or around £300, which brought me to this

[EDIT] Looking in to this one a little more I found a mistake in the one I linked to from LaptopsDirect. They have it listed as having a Ryzen 3 3500u but I don't think that exists. Its more likely they mean its a Ryzen 3 3250u whichmeans I'd be even less likely to buy this laptop for FM

Thanks, the one I found was a Ryzen 3 3250u so I’d assume the other one is too. Would it run the game at a decent speed? 

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6 hours ago, thnigelfc said:

Thanks Gangor, Any idea How much one would cost to have everything installed already?

To play these games?

 

Something like this? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ULTRA-FAST-Gaming-PC-Bundle-Intel-i7-8GB-1TB-Win-10-4GB-GTX-1650-DUAL-SCREEN-PC/254344517363?hash=item3b381d56f3:g:QbQAAOSwzJJdZ~F1

If you can I'd choose an i7 since in the older generations i5's were 2 core/4 threads or 4 core/4 threads which wouldn't cope nearly so well with modern games. 

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8 hours ago, ashey said:

Thanks, the one I found was a Ryzen 3 3250u so I’d assume the other one is too. Would it run the game at a decent speed? 

It'll run the game but if it were me I'd hold off and save up a little more. For just an extra £60 you can get the same model but with the 3500u CPU from BOX, but then save another £100/£150 and you can get something far better.

https://www.techradar.com/uk/deals/cheap-gaming-laptop-deals-under-1000

This link has a few deals near the top that I'd save towards rather than dropping £400 on a poor-to-okay machine when an extra £200 could get you one that will last for years.

After the £699 monster directly from HP I'd be tempted by the £599 Pavilion from Amazon. Seems far better value than the £390 Lenovo plus there's the option to spread the cost over 5 months without interest or a credit check. BUT obviously that is only if you will 100% be able to cover each payment

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I knew nothing when I found your forum today, only that I wanted to start my FM journey. I’ve studied the front page and read a lot of your comments and feedback on other pages. You guys are doing a awesome job and you’ve won my trust. This forum is very educational to read! I started with a £300 budget and now understand I have to go to £500 but can’t justify going any higher. I’ve found a few with decent specs for the price range but believe you guys can show my something better for the price.

   1.https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9396461 this one is ok but I think the graphics will just be too low         for me.

   2.https://www.argos.co.uk/product/5029976 this one looks good but I have no idea about the quality of the integrated graphics card for the 3D 

   3.https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-1-tb-hdd-black-10203784-pdt.html this looked alright but has no mention of the graphics card.

None of these seem to have a disc drive so do you have to buy an external one to stick the game in? (I’m allowed one stupid question, obvious to you I’m sure but I’ve been pure iPad for over 10 years lol). Also, how does 1tb of HDD compare to 256gb of SSD? Which is better?

This may be a bit ambitious or achievable but this is what I’m looking for out of the game for £500. 5-6 leagues, medium to large database, medium setting 3D matches. I’m a qualified football coach in real life so I’m quite meticulous and my game weeks will probably take longer than most. Please recommend a beast that fulfills my criteria, or can get me closer than those above with a few settings tweaks. Thanks in advance.

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17 hours ago, I.jamz said:

I knew nothing when I found your forum today, only that I wanted to start my FM journey. I’ve studied the front page and read a lot of your comments and feedback on other pages. You guys are doing a awesome job and you’ve won my trust. This forum is very educational to read! I started with a £300 budget and now understand I have to go to £500 but can’t justify going any higher. I’ve found a few with decent specs for the price range but believe you guys can show my something better for the price.

   1.https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9396461 this one is ok but I think the graphics will just be too low         for me.

   2.https://www.argos.co.uk/product/5029976 this one looks good but I have no idea about the quality of the integrated graphics card for the 3D 

   3.https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/acer-aspire-3-15-6-laptop-intel-core-i5-1-tb-hdd-black-10203784-pdt.html this looked alright but has no mention of the graphics card.

None of these seem to have a disc drive so do you have to buy an external one to stick the game in? (I’m allowed one stupid question, obvious to you I’m sure but I’ve been pure iPad for over 10 years lol). Also, how does 1tb of HDD compare to 256gb of SSD? Which is better?

This may be a bit ambitious or achievable but this is what I’m looking for out of the game for £500. 5-6 leagues, medium to large database, medium setting 3D matches. I’m a qualified football coach in real life so I’m quite meticulous and my game weeks will probably take longer than most. Please recommend a beast that fulfills my criteria, or can get me closer than those above with a few settings tweaks. Thanks in advance.

I'm not sure about the CPU on the 2nd and 3rd one, I thought FM needed a CPU that does at least 2GHz where those sites list it clocked at 1GHz. I think you'd get the game running on these systems but I wouldn't expect to great graphics if you want to play in 3D

As for the hard drives, the 1TB drive in the 3rd laptop is 4 times bigger than the others but is mechanical so will be slower. On my previous computer it would take a lot longer to load and save a game (5-10 season played) from the HDD than it does now with a solid-state drive.

I like the bit about being meticulous and taking your time with the game. I think I could spend a third of my time in the game just doing preseason and planning for the actual games.

Please recommend a beast that fulfills my criteria, or can get me closer than those above with a few settings tweaks

https://www.amazon.co.uk/HP-Pavilion-15-ec1001na-Gaming-Laptop/dp/B0877L4KMD?tag=georiot-trd-21&ascsubtag=trd-gb-1916831990227079400-21&th=1

I know it's more than your budget but if you're after a beast then I'd recommend this one. I've been looking for a cheaper laptop for a work mate and can't see anything for less (aside from 2nd ones on ebay) that I'd advise ahead of this.

At the minute Amazon have it available to buy with 5 instalments so your budget would all but cover the first 4 payments. Save £37.50 each month and that's the final one covered and you'll have a beast laptop with dedicated graphics that will be more than good enough to play FM for many years

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@I.jamz I'd echo what Matt has said above.  The difference between £500 and the £650 one he has recommended is huge, If you are in a position to wait and save for it or get it on credit as suggested then I would if I were you.  The new Ryzen 4th gens are absolute beasts at that price point

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8 minutes ago, Th said:

Check the last 2 posts 

Best deal out there at the moment, excellent machine

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1 minute ago, Th said:

Yes it would

 

2 minutes ago, Brother Ben said:

@I.jamz I'd echo what Matt has said above.  The difference between £500 and the £650 one he has recommended is huge, If you are in a position to wait and save for it or get it on credit as suggested then I would if I were you.  The new Ryzen 4th gens are absolute beasts at that price point

I know it's technically buying on credit but it's without interest or a credit check which would usually be the downside of paying in this way.

Like I said, if you have £500 in your pocket that would cover most of the payments. The extra cost spread over the months between payments wil be more than worth it. I'm literally offering to buy this for a friend whos looking to spend just £300-£400 on a laptop to play FM. I know they'll get nothing decent for that amount and it'll be money wasted.

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Hi guys. Thanks for the response. I have the cash but I just can’t spend more than £500 on a machine to play a game. I’m a family man and I can’t be too extravagant with this. I’ve happily raised my budget from £300 to £500 because I’ve seen gangor and Smurf quoting £5-600 a few times as being the basement for a decent one. I believe there is one out there for me that gets me what I need. How about this?
 

https://www.ebuyer.com/981542-lenovo-ideapad-s145-ryzen-7-8gb-256gb-ssd-14-win10-home-laptop-81uv000ruk?affid=294583&affname=Latest+Deals&MID=4358&awc=4358_1594830532_e36eb8780acf22174ef25ee86ab24bcc&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Discount+Code&utm_source=LatestDeals+Ltd&utm_content=0&utm_term=294583

 

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26 minutes ago, I.jamz said:

Hi guys. Thanks for the response. I have the cash but I just can’t spend more than £500 on a machine to play a game. I’m a family man and I can’t be too extravagant with this. I’ve happily raised my budget from £300 to £500 because I’ve seen gangor and Smurf quoting £5-600 a few times as being the basement for a decent one. I believe there is one out there for me that gets me what I need. How about this?
 

https://www.ebuyer.com/981542-lenovo-ideapad-s145-ryzen-7-8gb-256gb-ssd-14-win10-home-laptop-81uv000ruk?affid=294583&affname=Latest+Deals&MID=4358&awc=4358_1594830532_e36eb8780acf22174ef25ee86ab24bcc&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=Discount+Code&utm_source=LatestDeals+Ltd&utm_content=0&utm_term=294583

 

That looks decent.

I know what you mean about not wanting to spend too much though. So I'd ask if what you're after has to be a laptop or would a tower do instead? Personally I think you get better value in a tower, especially if you look in to building it yourself, but then I guess you dont get the convenience and portability of a laptop.

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I don’t really have space for a tower. I thought the spec on my last find is quite good, isn’t it? I appreciate your feedback Matt. It’s nice to have a place to get some help. The 1ghz feedback earlier was really useful on the others.

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I can’t buy the last laptop I posted as I’ve just checked out the selling company Ebuyer.com on trustpilot and there are loads of shocking reviews. The search continues and suggestions are very welcome.

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30 minutes ago, I.jamz said:

I can’t buy the last laptop I posted as I’ve just checked out the selling company Ebuyer.com on trustpilot and there are loads of shocking reviews. The search continues and suggestions are very welcome.

Never used them myself but I'd usually take the really negative comments with a pinch of salt. Looking at the reviews it like the feedback we have where I work, swinging wildly from really positive to really negative, sometimes people just have to vent.

A thing I've tried is to send a query about a product before buying from a new site. If you get poor customer service when you're telling a company you want to give them money then you know they're gonna be pretty bad when it comes to handling any problems. Or if they don't respond to your question I'd assume you'd get the same treatment after buying from them, so I go elsewhere.

https://www.box.co.uk/82C70005UK-Lenovo-V15_2928664.html

There's one similar to the ASUS you linked in the original post. A bit chearper and I've never had trouble buying from BOX

 

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In the graphics cards benchmark list on the first page of this forum, Radeon vega 8 is down in the low mid range and I’m using that as a gauge as to what I want to achieve. Both of those suggestions have those graphics. I want to just poke my head into the mid range. Other criteria I’m aiming for is either Ryzen 5 or Intel i5 minimum at at least 2GHz, 8GB RAM,  Windows 10, 256GB SSD all minimum. Not urgent but will buy immediately if the right one comes up. Thanks for those suggestions guys.

I agree about taking reviews with a pinch of salt as there are always things that happen unexpectedly but these reviews rang big alarm bells in my head lol. Check it out https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.ebuyer.com   Especially the one where the customer claims that Ebuyer were sending out electronic items with a lower spec than they were advertising 

 

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8 hours ago, I.jamz said:

In the graphics cards benchmark list on the first page of this forum, Radeon vega 8 is down in the low mid range and I’m using that as a gauge as to what I want to achieve. Both of those suggestions have those graphics. I want to just poke my head into the mid range. Other criteria I’m aiming for is either Ryzen 5 or Intel i5 minimum at at least 2GHz, 8GB RAM,  Windows 10, 256GB SSD all minimum. Not urgent but will buy immediately if the right one comes up. Thanks for those suggestions guys.

I agree about taking reviews with a pinch of salt as there are always things that happen unexpectedly but these reviews rang big alarm bells in my head lol. Check it out https://uk.trustpilot.com/review/www.ebuyer.com  Especially the one where the customer claims that Ebuyer were sending out electronic items with a lower spec than they were advertising

That's what I thought Laptops Direct might be doing when I noticed the specs didn't match the CPU they claimed a laptop came with. Emailed them about it but didn't hear anything back, so would never buy from them in the future.

 

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24 minutes ago, matt_forest said:

That's what I thought Laptops Direct might be doing when I noticed the specs didn't match the CPU they claimed a laptop came with. Emailed them about it but didn't hear anything back, so would never buy from them in the future.

 

Just for balance I've always had a good experience with laptops Direct/Box.co.uk.  I had a faulty Windows tablet that i bought for £400 in the sale and they replaced it with the more current version which they had listed on their website at £850.  The spec issue may just be carelessness more than anything

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3 hours ago, matt_forest said:

That's what I thought Laptops Direct might be doing when I noticed the specs didn't match the CPU they claimed a laptop came with. Emailed them about it but didn't hear anything back, so would never buy from them in the future.

 

Hit them up on Facebook. I expect they will be quick to remedy the problem. Comments on any of their posts should pop up for their CS team. 

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