Adamw Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Sign up thread - http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/269009-County-Championship-Sign-Up-Experiment 40 counties have been selected by users on this forum, and 4 players, and 1 manager, have each been entered by these counties into a draft. This evening, the draft has been conducted, and each county has randomly received 4 players and a manager. At 9.15pm, I will announce the results of the draft In the mean time, I will talk about the structure of the County Championship There are 4 divisions. The First and Second division contain 9 teams, third and fourth 11 teams There are also 3 cup competitions. The Twenty20 Cup is the main cup and is open only to teams in the top two teirs. The first phase is the group stage, 9 teams in 2 groups, play each other twice in a round robin, and the top 4 advance to the quarter finals, and so on until we have a winner. The winner qualifies for European competition The MCCA Knockout Trophy is similar to this, but it is open only to teams in the bottom two teirs. There are two groups of 11 teams, but a difference is, in this round robin phase, they only play each team once. Likewise, top 4 advance to the quarter finals, etc. etc. The other cup is the County Cup, which contains all teams and is unseeded. It is a straight knockout tournament. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Ooooo this is going to be interesting, how have you decided what divisions the teams are in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 First of all, the players Bedfordshire Ashley Williams, Thiago Alcantara, Richard Kingson, Edinson Cavani Berkshire Joey Barton, Juan Manuel Mata, Boaz Solossa, Rene Adler Buckinghamshire Andres Iniesta, Dani Alves, Robbie Savage, Cesc Fabregas Cambridgeshire Manucho, Darren Bent, Hamka Hamzah, Nicolas Otamendi Cheshire Daniele de Rossi, Guiseppe Rossi, Daniel Larsson, Pablo Piatti Cornwall Nicklas Bendtner, Fredy Montero, Thierry Henry, Sergio Floccari Cumbria Kurnia Meiga, Djibril Cisse, Alberto Paloschi, Xavi Derbyshire Petr Cech, Gianluigi Buffon, Juan Sebastian Veron, Zlatan Ibrahimovic Devon Landon Donovan, Jimmy Bullard, Sean Higgins, Michael Boulding Dorset Ashley Young, Carlos Kameni, Bastian Schweinsteiger, David Goodwillie Durham Scott Dobie, Adam Birchall, Andrey Arshavin, Max Gradel Essex Steven Gerrard, Tom Cleverley, Zezinho, Samuel Eto'o Glamorgan Francis Jeffers, Gonzalo Higuain, Hugo Lloris, Gervinho Gloucestershire Djalma, Hatem Ben Arfa, Eden Hazard, Jon Nurse Hampshire Paulo Henrique, Michael Dawson, Dave Winfield, Russell Anderson Herefordshire Franck Ribery, David Silva, Matt Harrold, Davide Astori Hertfordshire Javier Pastore, Adel Taarabt, Nemanja Vidic, Jose Enrique Isle of Wight Radamel Falcao, Sofiane Feghouli, Alexandre Pato, Bacary Sagna Isles of Scilly Alan Patrick, Darren Fletcher, Neymar, Barry Bannan Kent Romelu Lukaku, Michael Essien, Hulk, Luis Suarez Lancashire Mats Hummels, Manuel Neuer, Tony Roberts, Gareth Bale Leicestershire Aruna Dindane, Fabio Coentrao, Iker Casillas, Cristiano Ronaldo Lincolnshire Javier Hernandez, Filippo Inzaghi, Brice Ntambwe, David Luiz Merseyside Rafael van der Vaart, Jeremie Aliadiare, Haris Vuckic, Danny Green Middlesex Fernando Torres, Wesley Sneijder, Darnel Situ, David de Gea Norfolk Erik Lamela, Mauro Zarate, Patrice Evra, Pepe Reina Northamptonshire Marouane Chamakh, Wayne Rooney, Keith Keane, Alexsandar Kolarov Northumberland Edin Dzeko, Enoch Showunmi, Thiago Silva, Craig Davies Nottinghamshire John Terry, Kasey Keller, Titus Bramble, David Hasler Oxfordshire Ben Foster, Connor Wickham, Rodrigo Palacio, Marco Airosa Shropshire Giorgio Chiellini, Igor Akinfeev, Sone Aluko, Phil Jones Somerset Xherdan Shaqiri, Calvin Zola, Seydou Doumbia, Grant Holt Staffordshire Khouma Babacar, Sergio Aguero, Cheick Tiote, Gerard Pique Suffolk Lionel Messi, George Pilkington, Jason Koumas, Pavel Niakhaichyk Surrey Victor Valdes, Miroslav Klose, Tim Krul, Rory Delap Sussex Pascal Cygan, Marek Hamsik, Jonathan Greening, Guillermo Ochoa Warwickshire Jay DeMerit, Zoltan Gera, Ashley Cole, David Villa Wiltshire Joe Hart, Irfan Bachdim, Robin van Persie, Lisandro Lopez Worcestershire Mamadou Sakho, Romain Vincelot, Jonny Evans, Tomasz Kuszczak Yorkshire Chinedu Obasi, Marc Albrighton, Jan Vertonghen, Geraldo Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 26, 2011 Author Share Posted July 26, 2011 Fear not if you didn't get the players you were expecting, there's always the manager draft Bedfordshire Jimmy Calderwood Berkshire Roy Keane Buckinghamshire Michael Laudrup Cambridgeshire Quique Flores Cheshire Guus Hiddink Cornwall Louis van Gaal Cumbria Andre Villas-Boas Derbyshire Diego Maradona Devon Glenn Hoddle Dorset Harry Redknapp Durham Unai Emery Essex Rafa Benitez Glamorgan Bryan Robson Gloucestershire Ottmar Hitzfeld Hampshire Rahmad Darmawan Herefordshire John Still Hertfordshire Mark Hughes Isle of Wight Jamie Pitman Isles of Scilly Roy Hodgson Kent Arsene Wenger Lancashire Chris Hughton Leicestershire Pep Guardiola Lincolnshire Chris Coleman Merseyside Sir Alex Ferguson Middlesex Steve Bruce Norfolk Vicente del Bosque Northamptonshire Steve Cordery Northumberland Sam Allardyce Nottinghamshire Davide Ballardini Oxfordshire José Mourinho Shropshire Valdir de Moraes Somerset Iain Dowie Staffordshire Lito Vidigal Suffolk Marco van Basten Surrey Edoardo Reja Sussex Brendan Rodgers Warwickshire Roberto Mancini Wiltshire Ian Holloway Worcestershire Derek McInnes Yorkshire Mick Harford Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonbalmy87 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 well i am up poop creek *durham* not bad for wiltshire woohoo got olly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Lincolnshire - Javier Hernandez, Filippo Inzaghi, Brice Ntambwe, David Luiz (Chris Coleman) Middlesex - Fernando Torres, Wesley Sneijder, Darnel Situ, David de Gea (Steve Bruce) Absolutly over the freaking moon with the draft!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
o1000100 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cornwall Nicklas Bendtner, Fredy Montero, Thierry Henry, Sergio Floccari. Everyone is a striker lol!! I actually got the manager I nominated to the draft(van gaal) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bergtaur Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Cumbria: Kurnia Meiga, Djibril Cisse, Alberto Paloschi, Xavi So a world class midfielder, two decent strikers, and a lemon of a GK. Good to see I have AVB to turn these men into stars!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacki 101 Posted July 26, 2011 Share Posted July 26, 2011 Last minute Leicestershire team! Aruna Dindane, Fabio Coentrao (just joined R.Madrid for £30m), Iker Casillas, Cristiano Ronaldo and managed by Pep! Warwickshire: Jay DeMerit, Zoltan Gera, Ashley Cole, David Villa (Mancini) Bloody amazing draw!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Isle of Wight Radamel Falcao, Sofiane Feghouli, Alexandre Pato, Bacary Sagna Manager = Jamie Pitman Isles of Scilly Alan Patrick, Darren Fletcher, Neymar, Barry Bannan Manager = Roy Hodgson Hmm… Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lenzar Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I see the reason I didn't sign up for this (aside from the non-county entities of Cumbria and the two island sides) has come true - the draw's been incredibly unfair to some. Whilst I admit my system of first come first serve isn't ideal too, at least that ensured all the (chosen) teams had strongish players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrros Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Cambridgeshire: Manucho, Darren Bent, Hamka Hamzah, Nicolas Otamendi (Quique Flores) Cheshire: Daniele de Rossi, Guiseppe Rossi, Daniel Larsson, Pablo Piatti (Guus Hiddink) cambridgeshire is a lost case for sure XD chesire FTW! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayatsena Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Berkshire Joey Barton, Juan Manuel Mata, Boaz Solossa, Rene Adler (Roy Keane) Yorkshire Chinedu Obasi, Marc Albrighton, Jan Vertonghen, Geraldo (Mick Harford) Looks like both are for 4th Division... Well maybe Berkshire can compete in 3rd Div.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I see the reason I didn't sign up for this (aside from the non-county entities of Cumbria and the two island sides) has come true - the draw's been incredibly unfair to some.Whilst I admit my system of first come first serve isn't ideal too, at least that ensured all the (chosen) teams had strongish players. The randomness of it will inevitably leave some teams weaker than others, but there was always that risk when people put weaker players into the hat Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 These are the divisions each team are in. The first and second divisions are replicated by the real life cricketing championships, and I did a random draw to decide the position of the 22 remaining teams. All divisions have 2 promotion and relegation places Division One Durham Hampshire Lancashire Nottinghamshire Somerset Sussex Warwickshire Worcestershire Yorkshire Division Two Derbyshire Essex Glamorgan Gloucestershire Kent Leicestershire Middlesex Northamptonshire Surrey Division Three Bedfordshire Cambridgeshire Cheshire Cornwall Cumbria Dorset Lincolnshire Northumberland Oxfordshire Shropshire Staffordshire Division Four Berkshire Buckinghamshire Devon Herefordshire Hertfordshire Isle of Wight Isles of Scilly Merseyside Norfolk Suffolk Wiltshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 nice, D2 and D3 to start, the potential for rise and fall! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Both my teams in Div 4, the only way is up! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieCoopz Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Divisions 3 + 4 for Dorset and Devon respectively isn't too bad to begin with. Two decent managers in Redknapp for Dorset and Hoddle for Devon is good news. Good player spread too, mix of banterous but useless as well as the best in the biz. The draw is kind to me! EDIT: Even got Kameni whom I picked! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stuart_aberdeen Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Shropshire Giorgio Chiellini, Igor Akinfeev, Sone Aluko, Phil Jones. Valdir de Moraes Staffordshire Khouma Babacar, Sergio Aguero, Cheick Tiote, Gerard Pique. Lito Vidigal Aiming for 1st and 2nd in division 3 with those players. Edit: Crikey, just seen how good de Moraes is, wow! Shropshire is the place to be Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Before we start the game, here is the situation at the start The top players Player CA Club Lionel Messi 194 Suffolk Cristiano Ronaldo 190 Leicestershire Xavi 183 Cumbria David Villa 182 Warwickshire Iker Casillas 180 Leicestershire Michael Essien 179 Kent Cesc Fabregas 179 Buckinghamshire Andres Iniesta 179 Buckinghamshire Zlatan Ibrahimovic 178 Derbyshire Wayne Rooney 178 Northamptonshire And the top managers Manager CA Club Sir Alex Ferguson 188 Merseyside Jose Mourinho 187 Oxfordshire Josep Guardiola 182 Leicestershire Valdir de Moraes 182 Shropshire Guus Hiddink 180 Cheshire Arsene Wenger 178 Kent Louis van Gaal 174 Cornwall Rafa Benitez 171 Essex Ottmar Benitez 170 Gloucestershire Roberto Mancini 168 Warwickshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
bambi holt Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Pretty happy with my teams, beds and bucks. Especially Bucks- iniesta, alves and fabregas in same team. Oh and of course Robbia savage! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I won't be doing this normally but to give you an idea of where your team might finish at the end of the season, here are the results from the opening two rounds in each division Division One Hampshire 0-3 Durham Somerset 1-2 Lancashire Sussex 2-0 Nottinghamshire Warwickshire 11-0 Yorkshire Durham 2-0 Worcestershire Lancashire 1-0 Hampshire Nottinghamshire 0-5 Warwickshire Yorkshire 2-1 Somerset Division Two Derbyshire 2-4 Kent Gloucestershire 1-5 Essex Leicestershire 8-1 Glamorgan Middlesex 5-0 Surrey Essex 0-6 Derbyshire Glamorgan 3-3 Middlesex Kent 4-2 Northamptonshire Surrey 3-1 Gloucestershire Division Three Bedfordshire 0-3 Lincolnshire Cambridgeshire 5-1 Cumbria Cheshire 2-3 Staffordshire Dorset 5-0 Oxfordshire Northumberland 5-0 Cumbria Cornwall 3-3 Cheshire Cumbria 1-1 Bedfordshire Lincolnshire 0-2 Dorset Oxfordshire 3-0 Shropshire Staffordshire 7-1 Northumberland Division Four Berkshire 2-4 Isles of Scilly Buckinghamshire 1-2 Herefordshire Devon 5-1 Wiltshire Isle of Wight 4-1 Norfolk Merseyside 0-1 Hertfordshire Herefordshire 0-3 Devon Hertfordshire 0-1 Berkshire Isles of Scilly 2-5 Isle of Wight Norfolk 2-1 Suffolk Wiltshire 6-3 Merseyside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonbalmy87 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Wahooo Durham kicking but and Wiltshire bossed my brothers team muhaha stick that in your gob and chew it Sir Alex!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattieCoopz Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Very pleased that both my counties are doing brilliantly tbh. Go on and keep it up boys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacki 101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 My results: Warwickshire - Win 11-0 Win 5-0 Leicestershire - Win 8-1 Teams to beat?? Any chance of syaing who scored?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 I was planning on running this on full detail but it's been taking ages and the game's only up to February. I'll leave it until the end of the season and then put it on lower detail. There should be an update later tonight with the first season, if it actually finishes! If not then tomorrow morning Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ihsaan Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Oh dear, the draft has not treated me well! Herefordshire and Worcestershire. Relying on Ribery and Silva singlehandedly carrying Herefordshire to success. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevv2204 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 lookin at a bad bad season am afraid n shut it toon ya mug lol or il get me fellow scousers t sort ya yeah Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 Not gonna give too much away, but the game is in February and already the Division One title has been wrapped up, the team's main striker has already scored 59 league goals :o You'll have to wait to see which team that is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hacki 101 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 David Villa!! I entered him into the draw, drew him and hopefully he has now rewarded me with 59 goals for Warwickshire!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 27, 2011 Author Share Posted July 27, 2011 In Division Two, a striker scored 83 goals, but his team didn't get promoted, amazingly Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
toonbalmy87 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 well i am guessing for division one its a player from warickshire Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 In Division Two, a striker scored 83 goals, but his team didn't get promoted, amazingly this is the effect of getting 4 strikers and no defence or GK Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
as260191 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 I put 5 lemons in and got 5 stars out. Score! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jayatsena Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 A 11-0 loss but a nice 2-1 win in the second match for yorkshire, not to bad Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 County Championship 2010-11 Warwickshire dominated the season right from the off. Despite losing 3 of their original players in the January transfer window, their key striker, David Villa, stayed, and scored 67 goals in the process. They'll need him for the upcoming Champions League campaign, but they can they hold on to him this time? Lancashire and Worcestershire also had strong seasons and will be in the Europa League next season. At the other end of the table, it was a three way battle for two relegation spots, but a strong end of the season, including a last day win over Somerset, for Durham, ensured they would be staying up at the expense of Sussex and Somerset. It was neck and neck throughout the season, but Kent edged Leicestershire to claim the Division Two title. Glamorgan's Gonzalo Higuaín scored 83 times but clearly it wasn't enough. Gloucestershire had a shocker of a season, and Essex lost their last 7 games to ensure those two would be playing in Division Three next season. 65 goals from Edinson Cavani no doubt helped Bedfordshire to the title, whilst Cambridgeshire edged Cheshire to the other promotion spot. Cornwall and Lincolnshire were the teams condemned to life in the bottom teir. The Isle of Wight's Pato helped his team by scoring 69 goals, deservedly winning the Division Four title. The race for second was tighter, and it went to the final day to decide it, with both teams facing each other, but a 2-0 win for Berkshire ensured their place in Division Three Cups In the Twenty20 Cup, the final was contested between Leicestershire and Warwickshire. Warwickshire, who had been so dominant in winning the Division One title, were beaten heavily by 6-2. Cristiano Ronaldo scored 4 times, Aruna Dindane with the other two for Leicestershire. Regen Lee Bartle and David Villa got on the score sheet for Warwickshire, but it was Leiestershire's day, and they have earned themselves a place in the Europa League The MCCA Knockout Trophy saw Staffordshire and Bedfordshire compete, and there was nothing to separate the sides, with a 1-1 draw, goals from Sergio Aguero and Edinson Cavani respectedly. The match went to penalties, and Bedfordshire won 3-2, to complete a double. The County Cup was fought between Division Two Kent and Division Three Shropshire, and it was a 4-2 victory for Kent, goals from Luis Suarez (2), Gael Nlundulu and Hulk, despite Shropshire leading 2-1 at half time, with Sone Aluko and regen Eifion Stephens scoring. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Isle of Wight Champions of Division 4! \o/ Isles of Scilly bottom of Division 4! Can't have them all, Isle of Wight Division 3 Champions Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 a third in T2 and relegation to tier 4 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
letissierandhenryaregreat Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hampshire and Hertfordshire both safe in mid-table positions... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Transfers Below are the top (but not all) transfers from each division. As you can see, the majority are players leaving clubs. Managers There were some managerial changes in the season Division One 16.2.11 - Sussex: Brendan Rodgers (sacked), replaced by Terry Burton (previously assistant manager at Cardiff) 5.3.11 - Somerset: Iain Dowie (sacked), replaced by Peter Shirtliff (previously assistant manager at Swindon) Division Two 14.5.11 - Essex: Rafa Benitez (sacked), replaced by Richard O'Kelly (previously assistant manager at Doncaster) 2.2.11 - Gloucestershire: Ottmar Hitzfeld (sacked), replaced by Martin Ling (previously unemployed) Division Three 11.5.11 - Lincolnshire: Chris Coleman (sacked), replaced by Lee Robinson (previously assistant manager at Lincolnshire) Division Four 5.2.11 - Isles of Scilly: Roy Hodgson (sacked), replaced by Obbjørn Joensen (previously unemployed) There have also been some changes in terms of the chairman, with some takeovers and attempted takeovers. Berkshire - Just after the end of the season in May, a member of the Fans Trust, Martin Lisberg took control Derbyshire - In August, right at the beginning of the season, local Faroese businessman Óli Hansen became the new chairman Northamptonshire - Tycoon Japie Dixon failed in September to take over the club, but in March, a consortium, led by Frenchman Simon Tahar, succesfully took control. Suffolk - In early August, just before the start of the season, Danishmen Flemming Østerngaard led a consortium that took control of the East Anglian side. Surrey - In September, a consortium led by Frenchman Charles Villeneuve took control. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MacLovin Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Neymar sold for 1.2 million? Sack the Chairman! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 unfortunatly after seeing the transfer lists ive kind of lost interest very quickly. De Gea sold for under £2M?! replaced by some guy from Oldham? sorry... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrros Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 All the transfers seem to be for really small amounts...... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 unfortunatly after seeing the transfer lists ive kind of lost interest very quickly.De Gea sold for under £2M?! replaced by some guy from Oldham? sorry... Middlesex have still got Torres and Sneijder! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 All the transfers seem to be for really small amounts...... Yeh I don't really know why. All the clubs have a fair amount of money so it's not like they all needed to sell for the first offer Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fyrros Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yeh I don't really know why. All the clubs have a fair amount of money so it's not like they all needed to sell for the first offer hmmm what's the starting reputation of all the teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 The reputation I put was 4000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
o1000100 Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 All the players will leave within 2 seasons because they want to join clubs with bigger reputation... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adamw Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Hmmm Do you think therefore that it would be a good idea to start again and set the reputations higher (say, 7000), or should it just be left and we carry on the way it is? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
arkitekt Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Middlesex have still got Torres and Sneijder! but im left without a keeper which is suicidal! id put the reps at more like 9000 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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