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    Player position makes zero sense.

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

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    Thanks @The About Average Jake.

    We rate the players for the positions in which they have been seen to play.  Guardiola has only used Silva in a back four formation (thus involving full-backs, rather than wing-backs).  Of course, the idea of a "wing-back" is open to interpretation, as some see full-backs who are attack-minded, or who have been given and attacking remit, as wing-backs.  In the FM positional sense of the term, wing-backs are used when the manager employs a formation that sets up with three centre backs.

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    English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

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    On 12/11/2023 at 14:50, ChrisNUFC said:

    Anfield should have 'Not Used in Continental Finals' selected due to being unable to reach the desired Field of play size to be considered a Cat 4 stadium.
    I believe Old Trafford should also have 'Not Used in Continental Finals' selected, due to the position of their tunnel (as required from 2011) to be on the halfway line

    Anfield, Craven Cottage, Goodison Park, St. James' Park, Tottenham Hotspurs Stadium, London Stadium, Shelhurt Park, Emirates and Molynuex all need digital hordings ticked. 

    That's helpful, @ChrisNUFC - thanks!

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    English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

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    On 13/11/2023 at 00:05, ChrisNUFC said:

    Goalkeepers

     

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    I haven't looked through this in great detail yet, but really confused by how highly rated Caomin Kelleher is. 24 years old with a total of 27 senior appearances, yet they're 15th best GK in PL. based on CA of 141. Some questions over composure 14, first touch 14,  heading 10, passing 14, technique 13. Appreciate he's at Liverpool at might be learning from Alisson, yet it feels very high and if certainly if he was so highly regarded in those areas I can imagine Liverpool would have had several offers for the player given the current trend towards GK being a true outfield player when in possession. Especially considering his concentration and consistency is also 14, along with decisons 13. 

     

    Agility

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    On initial inspection, it looks like there could be some coordination between researchers, or perhaps suggested guidelines to help get a structured approach on agility. There are some very tall and also some heavy goalkeepers who have been rated surprisingly agile. I'd consider agility to be more than a person's ability to simply dive, but also what kind of save they're making. A low down save with hands or feet requires more agility than a top corner dive, another example would be single hand scoop pulling the ball back from behind the GK requires a lot of agility. While its not always the case, GKs with a slight frame tend to be more agile than taller or bulkier GKs. You could also consider a person's age and injury history (certainly if they've had a torn rotator cuff for example). 

    So seeing the likes of 36 year old Darren Randolph (188cm/98kg) with an agility of 14, which is similar to Jose Sa (192cm/84gk) doesn't look right out in the pure data sense, and makes me think one should be lower and another should be higher. 

    I'd also take into consideration a GK's bodyshape when looking at things like balance too, especially their set stance and and footwork. Do they have a straight back or are their sticking their backside out when set. Can they move their feet in quick shuffles sideways to help launch themselves into a dive or do they push/flop from a set position? 

    Cross Claiming and dealing with Corners

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    This is a major issue for GKs at the moment, and I think the above attributes should be grouped together to help deterimine if a GK is good at claiming crosses in open play and during set peices. 

    Aggression - I feel this should be used and judged on how confident the GK is at attacking the ball while it is in flight
    Bravery - Key to the above when dealing with a congested penalty area
    Strength - How well they can move through a crowded penalty area (linked to balance above for footwork)
    Anticipation - Recognising where the location of the highest point they (GK) can catch the ball (Do they often move under a ball when coming to claim?)
    Decisions - Absolute key attribute for GKs, which should be modified by aggression and bravery. For example: Do they come and claim? Do they catch or punch? Is it a single handed punch for extended reach or a double fist puch for security at the expense of reach? Do they recognise they're inability to claim crosses and instead call for the defenders to clear it? Do they spot if it is an outswinger or inswinging cross and change on they'll attack the ball
    Eccentricity - I feel like this is a difficult one for people to come to an agreed decision upon. But for me I'll always think of it as how well does the GK inspire confidence in the rest of the team during a game. Are they consistent with their decision making, technique, secure handling, etc. or is every cross/shot a new experience with parries and fisted saves pushing the ball wildly into the unknown. Similar for GKs who play out from the back, do they stick to the pattern of play or do they scramble and play wild passes into players who wouldn't normally receive a pass when playing out from the back. 

    Jumping Reach and Areial Abiltiy being the GKs overall ability to jump and reach to their highest point
    Command of Area and Communication organisation of the defensive unit, stop the cross, defending the 6 yard, pen spot, 18 yard, push out, etc. 

    With that in mind, if we add up the attributes and minus eccentricity we should get an idea of who the best GKs are with cross claiming:

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    If we compare this with: https://www.premierleague.com/stats/top/players/total_high_claim you can start to see a picture of who might be better than others at deal with crosses. Of course a TOTAL stat doesn't show you success rate. Sky Sports ran this at the start of the season: https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11661/12933578/best-goalkeeper-in-the-premier-league-revealed-andre-onana-david-raya-and-robert-sanchez-transfers-analysed showing the best GKs at claiming crosses were: 

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    Goalkeeper.com data vs (SI)

    1. Martinez (Alisson)
    2. Pope (Ederson)
    3. Alisson (Raya)
    4. Ederson (Onana)
    5. Raya (Vicario)
    6. Leno (Martinez)
    7. Kepa (Neto)
    8. Ramsdale (Areola)* Omitted Dubravka as Sky Sports only used primary GKs from the 22/23 season

    Which suggests that Martinez, Pope, Leno, and Ramsdale have perhaps been slightly undervalued at cross claiming, although, I could have easily overthought how much the attributes matter for cross claiming. 

    If we look at it in a simpler sense:

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    This is how goalkeeper.com's data ranked the GKs last season based on 6 factors: Shotstopping and parries; Sweeping and Cross Claiming; Shot Prevention and Distribution.

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    The above are the top 20 GKs in the PL based on CA. 

    goalkeeper.com vs (SI)

    1. Martinez (Ederson)
    2. Alisson (Alisson)
    3. Leno (Martinez)
    4. Raya (Raya)
    5 Pope (Onana)
    6. Kepa (Pickford)
    7. Ramsdale (Vicario)
    8. Guaita (Kepa)
    9. De Gea (Pope)
    10. Ederson (Neto)
    11. Fabianksi (Ramsdale)
    12. Neto (Leno)
    13. Pickford (Sanchez)
    14. Henderson (Steele)
    15. Sa (Kelleher)
    16. Sanchez (Areola)
    17. Mslier (Turner)
    18. Ward (Flekken)
    19. Lloris (Sa)
    20. Bazunu (Johnstone)

    Again this is only one dataset comparison, so hardly conclusive, but it does show that perhaps a few GKs have been undervalued and perhaps some have been overvalued in their worth. 

    So let's check: https://fbref.com/en/comps/9/2022-2023/keepersadv/2022-2023-Premier-League-Stats which provides a little more detail

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    Their Top 5 is:

    1. Martinez
    2. Raya
    3. Pope
    4. Sa
    5. Bazunu

     

    GK - fbref - SI

    1. Martinez  - Martinez - Alisson
    2. Pope - Raya - Ederson
    3. Alisson - Pope -  Raya
    4. Ederson - Sa - Onana**
    5. Raya - Bazunu - Vicario***
    6. Leno - Meslier - Martinez
    7. Kepa - Steele - Neto
    8. Guaita  - Leno - Areola* Omitted Dubravka as Sky Sports only used primary GKs from the 22/23 season
    9 Ramsdale - Sanchez - Flekken
    10 Sanchez - Henderson - Ramsdale*Omitted Lloris as Vicario is now 1st choice at Tottenham

    The noticable name here is Martinez, who seems to have had his ability to deal with crosses overlooked.

    **Onana ranked 11th in Serie A last season for crosses stopped % with 5.3%, which would have had him ranked 20th overall in the 22/23 EPL season.
    ***Vicario ranked 9th in Serie A last season for crosses stopped with 5.6%, which would have had him ranked 18th overall in the 22/23 EPL season. 

    I'm sure the same could be done for distribution, sweeping, held shots vs parries, etc. but I've only had time to look at cross claiming. In short, EPL GKs, from what I can see, need some consistency to their ratings and look either overvalued or undervalued perhaps due to CA guidelines. 

     

    Below are the GK cross stats so far this season. 

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    Thanks very much for the detailed analysis, @ChrisNUFC - we will be looking into that, carefully.

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    Inaccuracy of data of season ticket holders

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

    Posted

    29 minutes ago, herne79 said:

    Just as a follow up to this (I also get 77000 season ticket holders - real life = 55000):

    At the end of season 1 the Board advise they are going to build a new stadium to increase capacity due to ticket demand (see below).  Then at the beginning of the following season the matchday and ticket revenue chart shows West Ham way out in front by a comfortable margin.  I guess this is all related to the season ticket holders.

    As a West Ham fan thanks for the extra income (is it actually received or just a report glitch?) however I shudder to think what a new stadium would cost us!

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    Thanks @herne79 - this is a coding glitch that has been fixed, and will be available in a forthcoming update.

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    English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

    Posted

    1 hour ago, robterrace said:

    Last information I had was that Lewis Barker left and went to Grantham Town on a free in 2022. I'll double check that.

    George Hemmings is on my list of players to sort out, and, as far as I'm aware, Evan Boulter is 15, so won't be added into the game this time round.

    The Theo Avery one is strange, he appears twice in the DB, and, as one has a random DOB, it hasn't been picked up as a duplicate. I'll arrange to get that one sorted. @Pete Sottrel 

    Thanks @hasanrocksworld and @robterrace - I will attend to that duplicate of Theo Avery - apologies for that; it will be fixed for a future update.

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    English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

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    14 hours ago, ChrisNUFC said:

    St. James' Park is set as having a grass pitch. It is a mix of synthetic/grass
    St. James' Park does not have Digital ad hoardings checked (isn't this a requirement for all Premier League clubs?)
    St. James' Park is set as 'Very Good' state, when in truth its Good at best
    Environment is set as 'State of the Art', hard to comment without knowing what this actually does but St. James' Park is anything put State of the Art :lol:

    Fan expectations of 14 seems very high
    Fan Temperament of 13 doesn't feel right at all

    Support Objectives - Play high tempo pressing football. This isn't really a fan expectation or demand, but we won't complain if its done. 

    Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan have each other as favourite 'backroom staff'. They're married.
    Jamie Reuben should be added as a friend to Amanda Staveley and Yasir Al-Rumayyan and vice-versa. 

    Eddie Howe only has 100 board confidence

    Shwan Jalal is set as First Team GK Coach, but has a 1 in role perference for GKing. Profile looks unfinished and very messy. 

    Thanks very much for this, @ChrisNUFC - I will look into all the issues that you have raised.  Are you sure about Amanda Staveley?  A quick google search shows that she is married to Mehrdad Ghodoussi.

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    English Premier Division Data [Discussion]

    in England Premier Division Data Issues

    Posted

    10 hours ago, ajw10 said:

    Really frustrated that the clauses bug hasn't been fixed for release date. Arsenal records still not showing up either.

    Can't start a save until this clauses bug has been fixed. Feel like I've wasted my money

     

    Hello @ajw10 - I am really sorry.  The duplicate clauses issue has been logged and has been worked on as a high priority item by our coding team.  Again, I apologise that a fix for this has not been ready for the release.

    The club records issue has also been logged, and is being looked at.

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