[FM24] England Level 10 Now Released

[SIRvMARIO]

4 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Tak, zależy mi na ogólnych obrazach, aby uzyskać odpowiednie kolory

Do you want files with club logos from divisions 1-10, which I did for your fm23 patch, or will it not help you?

[SIRvMARIO]

I will finish correcting the logos in a few days this week. I have about 75 teams left to go through in divisions 1-4. I have finished divisions 5-10 on the Messi database for fm23.

[lionel messi]

15 minutes ago, SIRvMARIO said:

Do you want files with club logos from divisions 1-10, which I did for your fm23 patch, or will it not help you?

I just need images of the home and away kits as i have started to put the kits in at Level 7/8

 

[jameswb21]

I have a free day today if you want me to research this point: (Competion League & Cup history to be added in.)

Just give me a list of competitions and i am happy to help, anything to help this go along nicely.

 

[lionel messi]

28 minutes ago, jameswb21 said:

I have a free day today if you want me to research this point: (Competion League & Cup history to be added in.)

Just give me a list of competitions and i am happy to help, anything to help this go along nicely.

 

Thanks for your help but i think i have most of the info i need.

The League history for Leagues is complete.

[jameswb21]

31 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

Thanks for your help but i think i have most of the info i need.

The League history for Leagues is complete.

No worries! if theres anything that needs researching i am happy to help!

[darkprometheus112]

Random question on this one but this year and I guess since 1983, there has been the Bristol Street Motors Trophy.  Any idea if you will be adding this in?  Not sure if you had it last year or if it is to difficult to do with how the game is now and how random some of the tier 1 teams are picked for the competition.

[lionel messi]

3 minutes ago, darkprometheus112 said:

Random question on this one but this year and I guess since 1983, there has been the Bristol Street Motors Trophy.  Any idea if you will be adding this in?  Not sure if you had it last year or if it is to difficult to do with how the game is now and how random some of the tier 1 teams are picked for the competition.

What is it?

[oche balboa]

9 minutes ago, darkprometheus112 said:

Random question on this one but this year and I guess since 1983, there has been the Bristol Street Motors Trophy.  Any idea if you will be adding this in?  Not sure if you had it last year or if it is to difficult to do with how the game is now and how random some of the tier 1 teams are picked for the competition.

That would already be in the game 

[jakdevlin]

EFL Trophy (formerly known as the Papa Johns Trophy), is now called the Bristol Street Motors Trophy

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2023–24_EFL_Trophy

https://www.efl.com/competitions/bristol-street-motors-trophy/about-the-bristol-street-motors-trophy/

[lionel messi]

got you, just never heard it called that before.

that competion is already in the game.

[jakdevlin]

11 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

got you, just never heard it called that before.

that competion is already in the game.

yeah I know. maybe @darkprometheus112 was just confused with the naming. it has only changed name within the last month, maybe sooner

[darkprometheus112]

15 minutes ago, jakdevlin said:

yeah I know. maybe @darkprometheus112 was just confused with the naming. it has only changed name within the last month, maybe sooner

Yeah i only knew it as the Papa Johns.  I'm sad now that there is no Pizza Trophy now. Saying you are going to win the Car Trophy doesn't have the same feeling anymore.

Edited November 22, 2023 by darkprometheus112

[lionel messi]

1 minute ago, darkprometheus112 said:

Yeah i only knew it as the Papa Johns.  I'm sad now that there is no Pizza Trophy now. Saying you are going to win the Car Trophy doesn't have the same feeling anymore.

or the paint trophy lol

[lionel messi]

I reckon the database is about 70% complete at this moment in time.

[phnompenhandy]

14 hours ago, lionel messi said:

or the paint trophy lol

As a lower league trophy, it would be the "Paint Pot" 

[jakdevlin]

12 hours ago, lionel messi said:

I reckon the database is about 70% complete at this moment in time.

if you need help with anything mate, let us know, im sure a few us wouldn't mind helping out

[daniel negura]

why doesn't england level 20

[lionel messi]

58 minutes ago, daniel negura said:

why doesn't england level 20

Its a Level 10 database.

[matty11207]

how you getting on Lionel? reckon possible weekend release ...... love the work you do btw really appreciate it!

[lionel messi]

34 minutes ago, matty11207 said:

how you getting on Lionel? reckon possible weekend release ...... love the work you do btw really appreciate it!

No it wont be ready by the weekend.

[themodelcitizen]

Keep up the good work mate

[lionel messi]

14 hours ago, themodelcitizen said:

Keep up the good work mate

Yes I'm working on it as quick as I can.

Got 4 days off work after today so will be hard on it to get a lot done.

 

[Chris1803]

Cannot believe the effort and time you put into this, really is absolutely incredible, and is obviously well appreciated by non league fans all over! 

Quick question - on last years, managing in the Northern Counties East League Premier Division, it was only possible to offer players part time contracts up to £50pw which seemed to be in as a league rule.

Can/will that be different on this one? I know a few clubs in the league that are putting significant money in this year (for the level) - Silsden AFC perhaps most notably who've a number of players on £200+ a week.

Thanks!

[lionel messi]

2 hours ago, Chris1803 said:

Cannot believe the effort and time you put into this, really is absolutely incredible, and is obviously well appreciated by non league fans all over! 

Quick question - on last years, managing in the Northern Counties East League Premier Division, it was only possible to offer players part time contracts up to £50pw which seemed to be in as a league rule.

Can/will that be different on this one? I know a few clubs in the league that are putting significant money in this year (for the level) - Silsden AFC perhaps most notably who've a number of players on £200+ a week.

Thanks!

Yes i think it will be different on this one, i have restrictions set but i may move them completly yet.

All contracts at Level 9 & 10 are currently set to non contract where they get paid per appearance plus they can earn more through bonuses.

At Level 7 star player and regualar starter can be offered part-time contracts.

and at Level 8 just star players can be offered part-time contracts.

 

P.S. thanks for your kind words.

Edited November 25, 2023 by lionel messi

[wheatoplays]

9 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Yes I'm working on it as quick as I can.

Got 4 days off work after today so will be hard on it to get a lot done.

 

No rush, mate. Hope you're enjoying your days off.

[Chris1803]

5 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Yes i think it will be different on this one, i have restrictions set but i may move them completly yet.

All contracts at Level 9 & 10 are currently set to non contract where they get paid per appearance plus they can earn more through bonuses.

At Level 7 star player and regualar starter can be offered part-time contracts.

and at Level 8 just star players can be offered part-time contracts.

 

P.S. thanks for your kind words.

You're very welcome for the praise - it's well deserved. 

Getting rid of the restrictions seems like an understandable move, as I say, the money seems to be crazier, but I know there's players at NCEL level who rejected Northern Prem clubs, because the were offered better contracts in the NCEL than they were offered higher up the leagues. 

I appreciate squads aren't often full of real players at steps 9/10 but if you need any info on the NCEL prem sides, and the Yorkshire clubs in the North West Counties League too, I'll try and help in anyway possible. I do however get that, that might lead to a lot of headaches if certain step 9 leagues had squads that were more complete than others. 

[lionel messi]

A little update.

Im about halfway through putting the kits in for Level 9/10 Leagues.

I could have a playable version ready by a week on monday i think, it will not be the complete version but it would be totally playable and it would allow people to test it to see if everything is running good up to yet and to report any issues they notice while playing.

[IgnorantLobster]

43 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

A little update.

Im about halfway through putting the kits in for Level 9/10 Leagues.

I could have a playable version ready by a week on monday i think, it will not be the complete version but it would be totally playable and it would allow people to test it to see if everything is running good up to yet and to report any issues they notice while playing.

Exciting - thanks for your excellent and hark work on this, as always.

[themodelcitizen]

Beta version sounds great, I'm sure loads of us will test it

[okulcio]

lionel messi- Are you planning to add "Senior cup"?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/County_football_association

I just finished the version I'm making for myself.
My version includes these cups.
If anyone wants, can I post a link to my version?

Edited November 27, 2023 by okulcio

[themodelcitizen]

Not if you're building off his work. You'd have to build the database up yourself from scratch to share it. Believe he usually adds county cups though.

On that note, FYI @lionel messi  I can see Skipton Cup was played again this year. Sort of a community shield specifically for Guernsey FC and Isle of Man FC

[gmilitao_scr]

16 horas atrás, lionel messi disse:

A little update.

Im about halfway through putting the kits in for Level 9/10 Leagues.

I could have a playable version ready by a week on monday i think, it will not be the complete version but it would be totally playable and it would allow people to test it to see if everything is running good up to yet and to report any issues they notice while playing.

Don't worry. SI says there's another patch comes in early december. So, i think will be in time for me wait the new patch and your file.

[lionel messi]

3 hours ago, themodelcitizen said:

Not if you're building off his work. You'd have to build the database up yourself from scratch to share it. Believe he usually adds county cups though.

On that note, FYI @lionel messi  I can see Skipton Cup was played again this year. Sort of a community shield specifically for Guernsey FC and Isle of Man FC

What do you mean?

[themodelcitizen]

11 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

What do you mean?

Was just noting another cup that's played between lower league teams if you felt like creating it. But it's a bit niche and can be accomplished by scheduling a friendly (just no trophy that way)

[lionel messi]

1 hour ago, themodelcitizen said:

Was just noting another cup that's played between lower league teams if you felt like creating it. But it's a bit niche and can be accomplished by scheduling a friendly (just no trophy that way)

i meant the comment from the other user building off my work.

[themodelcitizen]

7 hours ago, lionel messi said:

i meant the comment from the other user building off my work.

I meant to say, if he took an earlier build of your db or ported over FM23 and just added a bunch of stuff, that would not be kosher. Mind you I just realized there haven't been any early versions

[lionel messi]

All the kits are now in down to Level 10

onto the next thing lol

[wheatoplays]

46 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

All the kits are now in down to Level 10

onto the next thing lol

You're doing a fantastic job, as always. Thanks again for all your hard work.

[iGoldenBen]

Hi mate, 

Will you be keeping teams like Bury FC untouched, as in season ticket holders etc, as I noticed that on other databases Bury AFC's season ticket holders, ticket price etc were used, which are much lower than what they are now. 

Edited November 28, 2023 by iGoldenBen

[Liffa]

1 hour ago, iGoldenBen said:

Hi mate, 

Will you be keeping teams like Bury FC untouched, as in season ticket holders etc, as I noticed that on other databases Bury AFC's season ticket holders, ticket price etc were used, which are much lower than what they are now. 

Interesting... I was actually thinking of Bury FC as i saw them high on this list: https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/

[iGoldenBen]

2 minutes ago, Liffa said:

Interesting... I was actually thinking of Bury FC as i saw them high on this list: https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/

I started a save with them on another English database which isn't as good, so waiting for this to be released to restart

[lionel messi]

1 hour ago, iGoldenBen said:

Hi mate, 

Will you be keeping teams like Bury FC untouched, as in season ticket holders etc, as I noticed that on other databases Bury AFC's season ticket holders, ticket price etc were used, which are much lower than what they are now. 

I haven't touched season ticket holders or ticket prices.

I have adjusted attendances as a lot of teams at the lower levels did not have any set.

 

[lionel messi]

39 minutes ago, Liffa said:

Interesting... I was actually thinking of Bury FC as i saw them high on this list: https://www.nonleaguematters.co.uk/global/attendances/

Yes some teams get good attendances at lower levels

[iGoldenBen]

26 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

I haven't touched season ticket holders or ticket prices.

I have adjusted attendances as a lot of teams at the lower levels did not have any set.

 

Nice one, and yes agreed on the lower league attendances being incorrect/missing by default. 

[iGoldenBen]

6 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Yes some teams get good attendances at lower levels

Bury's is far and away the best for the level, I was getting attendances of 7500 in the fa cup preliminary rounds on another English database, that's insane. I would imagine a full capacity Gigg lane wouldn't be out the question against bigger opposition

Edited November 29, 2023 by iGoldenBen

[lionel messi]

19 minutes ago, iGoldenBen said:

Bury's is far and away the best for the level, I was getting attendances of 7500 in the fa cup preliminary rounds on another English database, that's insane. I would imagine a full capacity Gigg lane wouldn't be out the question against bigger opposition

Just done a test for a season and their average league attendance was 3,753

They got a crowd of just over 10,000 for a FA Cup game

Edited November 29, 2023 by lionel messi

[Gr1ssom]

4 minutes ago, lionel messi said:

Just done a test for a season and their average league attendance was 3,753

I like the sounds of a test season, hopefully meaning we're close! Waiting on this instead of going on to year 2026 on a different database due to WorkTheSpace recommendation and seeing your level of detail and care. Appreciate your work and can't wait to start my actual Park to Prem!

[iGoldenBen]

10 hours ago, lionel messi said:

Just done a test for a season and their average league attendance was 3,753

They got a crowd of just over 10,000 for a FA Cup game

3,753 is insane for that level 

[phnompenhandy]

9 minutes ago, iGoldenBen said:

3,753 is insane for that level 

They used to average over 3000 as a league club; now they're in the 400s.

https://www.footballwebpages.co.uk/bury-town/attendances