robbo1948 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Great work Immuner, To those who have tried other scout programmes, this has got to be the best one I've tried for '09. My only issue, like others have said on this page - is that when I search players with an age and PA parameter (e.g 0-18yrs and 175-200 PA) it returns a list of everyone, old players and naff players! Do I still need 0.99 version, instead of 1.0 (latest) which I am running? thanks - and nice to see you are replying to everyone, Immuner!! Excellent work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Flag Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Great work Immuner,To those who have tried other scout programmes, this has got to be the best one I've tried for '09. My only issue, like others have said on this page - is that when I search players with an age and PA parameter (e.g 0-18yrs and 175-200 PA) it returns a list of everyone, old players and naff players! Do I still need 0.99 version, instead of 1.0 (latest) which I am running? thanks - and nice to see you are replying to everyone, Immuner!! Excellent work Agree, this is the best scout out there. I'm back to using 0.99 until 1.1 is out, it works just fine for me. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 13, 2008 Author Share Posted December 13, 2008 new version will include positional rating and search by positional rating. will also include export to shortlist by selected rows, export to csv, txt and other cool features. i will also make it an editor but only as an option which you will have to enable in the preferences as this was initially a scout and i dont want people to get confused but there are just too many people asking for editing values(which i respect). i would like to clarify something though. i understand that for some people positional ratings is better than CA/PA but i hadnt included it so far because this is not a feature included in the game as far as i know and it will be a 3rd party implementation (as it has been until now). i am against those. i have worked in games before and not being knowledgeable of the AI is a minus setback for anything like that (that mostly goes for potential ratings). i assume if someone is advanced enough to look for a 3rd party scout for the hidden attributes of the game, then he can also guess if he sees a player with very high PA and his current attributes whether they will involve. For example a regen DC with PA 194, short height and tacking 2 at the age of 18 would never be a very good defender. However, there is a way to predict that and this is what i have implemented. I hope it will be helpful for you people who need it. Again v1.0 is buggy use v0.99. v1.1 will be different in terms of layout (hopefully faster scouting-editing for you). All the features that are currently available in the scout are the only ones that are available in the framework. As soon as anything else becomes available, i will include it. This goes for all your requests. I hope i have answered some of your questions. Thank you guys! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Am i missing something? I want to search say all players with a PA of 170. When i specify this and search it just searches every player in the game?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReneW Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 hope the regens will show up too in the shortlists loaded in FM Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 cant get this to run - it says fmsearch has stopped running when i tried to start it up. any ideas? Got vista 64 so dont know if this is the reason. Tried version 1.0 and also 0.99 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave byrd Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Am i missing something? I want to search say all players with a PA of 170. When i specify this and search it just searches every player in the game?? Anyone know? Does the seach by PA/CA even work? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
White Flag Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Anyone know? Does the seach by PA/CA even work? No it doesn't - addressed earlier in the thread. Use 0.99 until 1.1 is released. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmizzles Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Where do i find 0.99? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
schmizzles Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 my bad.... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
XenoExclusive Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 EDIT: Ignore Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ryan377 Posted December 13, 2008 Share Posted December 13, 2008 Thanks for this! Will really help me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Umberto Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 Up News for this Scout? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have finished the scouting version, but i have some issues with positional ratings. I also need to finish implementing the editing part. As soon as these are ready, I will send a test version to the people who have requested it and a couple of days later will release it. Need to make sure there are no weird bugs for anyone. Also a new version of the framework will be released soon which will fix several problems (one of them the EU member support). If you wish, i could release a public test version rather than a limited one, but it will be for bug testing mainly. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJLM82 Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I have finished the scouting version, but i have some issues with positional ratings. I also need to finish implementing the editing part. As soon as these are ready, I will send a test version to the people who have requested it and a couple of days later will release it. Need to make sure there are no weird bugs for anyone.Also a new version of the framework will be released soon which will fix several problems (one of them the EU member support). If you wish, i could release a public test version rather than a limited one, but it will be for bug testing mainly. I'm in favour for public testing. You'll get more bug reports and iron them out quicker. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 alright then . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
X-Pac Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 I'd like to be able to search by players that would be interested in joining my team, will that ever be possible? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 how would someone show interest in your team? in terms of ambition? in terms of your teams reputation? in terms of him expressing interest in your team? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Men Of Low Moral Fiber Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 id assume you would need to find out which criteria the 'ask assistant to filter out unrealistic targets' uses in game. A work around at the moment is to just save as shortlist then open in game and get the assman to filter Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 16, 2008 Author Share Posted December 16, 2008 that is based on your assistant manager's ability though right? so if you have a bad one, he will do bad filtering. maybe that's a hint on how to look for it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Men Of Low Moral Fiber Posted December 16, 2008 Share Posted December 16, 2008 yeah probably, id guess it is based loosly on club reputation with your own rep, league rep, and club nation all having smaller effects on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nikeddy Posted December 17, 2008 Share Posted December 17, 2008 Your scout is the best!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 Thank you nikeddy. If anyone is willing to translate the scout to different languages for v1.2 send me an email. It will already be translated onto italian by Umberto. I can do greek myself, but i would prefer if someone else would do it, that's fine Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ernest166 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 immuner - just one question. I dunno why but it seems that if the editor says the sale value of player is X it means i need to pay atleast double than it to buy the player. for example: if the sale value of a player is 30M pounds(int he editor) it means i need to offer over 50M pounds just to buy it. is it my problem or the editors ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 are you sure you are using the correct currency? its by default in euros. sale values are different in fm09 as far as i know. sale value is more like a reference value rather than a static one as in previous versions, so it could easily vary (that much though? i'm not sure). Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
sefko1 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Here is a copy/paste patch for displaying real asking price for players in FM09. The file (xml) was originally published by watszn from game.ali213.net and might be derived from some FM08 skin pack (Sorry I don't know the skin name). Instruction 1. Download the file (7kB in rar) here http://www.megaupload.com/?d=AJCSPIT7. 2. Unzip the file, a folder named 'panels' should be generated, which has two xml files in it. 3. Put that folder into "X:\Documents and Settings\*****\My Documents\Sports Interactive\Football Manager 2009\", unless you have set your own 'User Data Folder'. 4. Run FM2009, uncheck 'Use Skin Cache' and tick 'Always Reload Skin On Confirm' in Peferences, and confirm. 5. Go to squad list of any club, select 'Views->Transfer', or go to your Shortlist (by default should be View->Others), 'Price' column will be displayed which shows the asking price. ps, generally it is accurate, but if you want to buy a player from one of your rivals, blah blah blah... Is it posible to implement this thing to your tool? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 18, 2008 Author Share Posted December 18, 2008 what do you mean? so to get a better asking price? i had a look and it has a min and max asking price.....i guess thats the issue. we need to get that in the framework....ill try Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
cmcleish90 Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 Hi immuner, i'm new to this and require a bit of help!! When i click load on your scout an error pops up saying something along the lines of "unhandled exception has occured... could not load file or assembly" any idea what my problem is? Any help would be greatlty appreciated! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aytumious Posted December 18, 2008 Share Posted December 18, 2008 what do you mean? so to get a better asking price?i had a look and it has a min and max asking price.....i guess thats the issue. we need to get that in the framework....ill try The "price" column is what you are after. It isn't normally available in game. The min and max asking price is always available under the scouting section if you've scouted a player. The "price" column only shows up if you use the modded .xml files, and that appears to be the accurate asking value. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heron Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 Hi immuner, i'm new to this and require a bit of help!!When i click load on your scout an error pops up saying something along the lines of "unhandled exception has occured... could not load file or assembly" any idea what my problem is? Any help would be greatlty appreciated! Do you have the .NET framework 3.5 SP 1 installed? That was my problem when I got this message? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kees04 Posted December 19, 2008 Share Posted December 19, 2008 I've noticed this(v0.9) isn't working with patch 9.2.0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyoxx Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 none of these are working with the new patch any ideas why? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aytumious Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 none of these are working with the new patch any ideas why? Because the new patch just came out and the creators of the editors have to make them compatible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-99 Posted December 20, 2008 Share Posted December 20, 2008 i had this problem too, it won't work with the new patch. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
greys Posted December 21, 2008 Share Posted December 21, 2008 Me three. If you need testers for the new version, I'm volunteering. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 21, 2008 Author Share Posted December 21, 2008 Sorry for taking longer. Had some personal issues to take care off, plus one thing led to another and added more things to the tool. Probably will release the new version tomorrow afternoon (GMT time). Seems it wont work with new patch, but i will release test version first to have something to test and then install the patch and give it a go from there . Have a nice night people Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-99 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 cheers immuner good luck with the test, thanks for all your work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty01 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Immuner, I have a suggestion. Can you separate digits with comma such as 20,000,000 instead of just 20000000 for instance. It's much easier to read if the value is 20M or 2M. Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 marty yes have fixed all these things...this should be named v4.0 instead of v1.1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
heron Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Sounds great. Keep up the good work, immuner! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kees04 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 immuner, any ideas when you'll finish testing? I can help testing if you want..:? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 thank you.....will release the test version in a couple of hours. i'm still at work . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Would it be possible to add an option so that CA and PA does not by default limit searches to values between 100 and 200. Playing in the very low leagues, this is a (admittably minor) annoyance! Keep up the good work! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 i will default it to 0, is that ok? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
oyz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Superb, Immuner! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty01 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 marty yes have fixed all these things...this should be named v4.0 instead of v1.1 Thanks, great job with the scout by the way Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheHolyGoalie Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Cheers for your hard work immuner. Looking forward to using this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
private pyle Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 immuner - any chance of the next version having accurate sale values? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
immuner Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 same accuracy as before im afraid, need to change the framework for that. Test version is out! Play with it and let me know. Thanks to all the people who have sent me an email or pm to participate on that. I have made it public, so that i can get better feedback. Thank you again. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
james-99 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 mine won't work, i have the framework, it opens up the scout system but won't load my game, when i do have it open. Any ideas??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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