[FM20] Irchester Utd. Tier 10. England. Home. Youth Only.

[Jimbokav1971]

8th fine of the season. Mar 2052. 

We have paid significantly more than £75,000 in fines. 

We lost. 

[Jimbokav1971]

On 16/09/2020 at 11:13, Jimbokav1971 said:

1st fine of the season. Sep 2051. 

£25k for a 1st fine. Wow!  This is going to be an expensive season. 

It wasn't the 6 yellows that cost us, but the 14th minute red card certainly did. We lost. 

 

On 16/09/2020 at 14:45, Jimbokav1971 said:

2nd fine of the season. Oct 2051. 

No messing about. This is a LOT of money.  We won. 

 

On 16/09/2020 at 15:04, Jimbokav1971 said:

3rd fine of the season. Oct 2051. 

Ok. This is getting serious now.  We drew. 

 

On 17/09/2020 at 15:07, Jimbokav1971 said:

4th fine of the season. Dec 2051. 

We lost. 

 

22 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

5th fine of the season. Dec 2051. 

8 yellows and 2 reds isn't going to win us many games. It's certainly going to help us win away to Spurs with a weakened line-up. (Good to see that the back-ups know how to get right stuck-in though). 

I know that the message says it's 2 cards. but I promise you it's 5.

That's 5 fines before New Year. I'm pretty sure we have never managed that before.  

 

17 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

6th fine of the season. Feb 2052. 

6 yellows really isn't a problem, but once again an early red card, (21st minute), is obviously hard to overcome. We drew. 

 

 

2 hours ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

7th fine of the season. Mar 2052.

We are absolutely smashing the ill-discipline, (and everything and everyone else), and we must surely be getting close to whatever the discipline record for the Premier League. 

 

 

5 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

8th fine of the season. Mar 2052. 

We have paid significantly more than £75,000 in fines. 

We lost. 

I've just counted and we have paid £375,000 in fines already this season. 

It should actually have been.... £525,000 so we have got off lightly. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Jimbokav1971

[Jimbokav1971]

Feb & Mar 2052. 

Apologies. I usually save at the beginning of a month but yesterday I was knackered and saved in the middle of the month and as a result I missed the Feb update. 

Premier League. We've been playing well, but we've drawn too many games and it's cost us. Only 2 losses, but also only 2 wins is really frustrating over a 2 month period.

A 21st min red card against Villa definitely cost us 2 points. Despite that, we're 13 points clear of the relegation zone and that's all this season is about. I will admit that when we started winning I had delusions of romping up the table and qualifying for Europe, but I think this modest improvement is more realistic and I'm happy with that. 

Edited September 18, 2020 by Jimbokav1971

[-Jef-]

It's Feb/Mar update, not Mar/Apr

 

Good results. Shame couldn't win one of the many draws

[Jimbokav1971]

Just now, rosque said:

It's Feb/Mar update, not Mar/Apr

 

Good results. Shame couldn't win one of the many draws

Thanks. Not paying attention. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Profit. Apr 2052. 

I'm not sure I have ever seen this page before in FM. I like it. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Apr 2052. 

Premier League. The draws keep coming but I can't complain as we are still 14 points ahead of the relegation zone. The draw against Arsenal was the weakest team we have fielded in ages. 10 of the starting XI came from the 50, 51 and 52 intakes. They battered us, but we held out for a brilliant 0-0.

Our remaining 3 games are against Fulham, Brighton and Man Utd but we are already safe.  

[Jimbokav1971]

May 2052. 

Premier League. I know we haven't won for 10 games, but honestly who cares.  I've been selecting kids and not caring really, (although I did try to beat Brighton). We've stayed up by a massive 14 points. 

[-Jef-]

I think that in any other season you'd be lucky to survive. But kudos for staying up!

[Jimbokav1971]

12 hours ago, rosque said:

I think that in any other season you'd be lucky to survive. But kudos for staying up!

I'm not sure what you are basing that in. 

We finished the season on 38 points and played weakened teams in 6 out of the last 7 games. 

38 points would have kept us up in 2051, 2050, 2049, 2048, 2047, 2046, 2045, 2044, 2043, 2042, 2041, 2040, in fact every Premier League season since 2034, (18 years ago). We would actually have finished as high as 14th on a couple of occasions.

[Pompeyboyz]

19 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I'm not sure what you are basing that in. 

We finished the season on 38 points and played weakened teams in 6 out of the last 7 games. 

38 points would have kept us up in 2051, 2050, 2049, 2048, 2047, 2046, 2045, 2044, 2043, 2042, 2041, 2040, in fact every Premier League season since 2034, (18 years ago). We would actually have finished as high as 14th on a couple of occasions.

There is an old adage that 40 points is needed for survival and maybe he based it on that thinking 40 points is a baseline and not a guarantee??

[Jimbokav1971]

Season Summary. May 2052.

Premier League. You might notice that Chelsea are no longer one of the big sides and haven't qualified for Europe in any of the last 5 seasons, (and next season will make 6). 

FA Cup. Survival in the Premier League was our priority. As we start to develop I will start giving higher priority to Cup competitions..

Carabao Cup. This was during a tough period for us where we couldn't buy a win. 

Leasing,com Trophy. (U23's). I have high hopes for our U23's in this competition in the future, but it's probably a bit early yet. I think they are capable of better right now, but perhaps not without me taking control of squad selection which I'm not prepared to do right now. 

Development League. (U23's). After starting off by not scoring any goals in their opening 3 games, they rallied well to win the League and the Playoffs. 

FA Youth Cup. 

U18 Premier Division Cup. We got to the Final but were surprisingly turned over by Derby. 

U18 Premier League. We won the league but then weren't strong enough to beat Man Utd, (winnners of the other League), in the Final. 

Goal-scoring keepers. 0 goals from 4 penalties is a big thing and I think confirms that (47a) Best (F.Det) * will be sold and I will go with 18 year old (50b) Okoro (NED) (F.Det) next season. 

Overall Best XI. 

Awards. Whole there wasn't a dominant Player of the Season winner which often happens when a striker scores loads of goals, it's interesting that GK (47a) Best (F.Det) * was voted in 2nd place despite missing 4 out of 4 penalties. I don't thin the fans will be happy when I sell him. 

Squad by Appearances.

Discipline. We absolutely smashed the previous record, (in fact so did Charlton). 

Our 1st choice right back, left winger and right winger are all on the yellow card list, and the only reason our 1st choice left back isn't there is because of so much rotation. 

Finances. We've got over £100M in the bank for the 1st time in the save. 

Income. £9.5M in Premier League prize money and a whopping £104M in Premier League TV revenue. As long as we stay in the Premier League I don't think we are ever going to have money problems. 

Expenditure. 

Facilities. The Youth Recruitment is stuck on Level 19 and I'm waiting for "something" to pop but I'm not sure what. It's probably reputation so we will keep an eye on that. 

Transfers. 

Tracker. 

[Jimbokav1971]

50 minutes ago, Pompeyboyz said:

There is an old adage that 40 points is needed for survival and maybe he based it on that thinking 40 points is a baseline and not a guarantee??

Had I picked full strength teams in more games we would have taken more points out of 6 out of the last 7 games where I played young players.

We were so far ahead that it was never in doubt in the end.  

[Jimbokav1971]

Wages to Turnover Ratio. May 2052. 

Is this a new feature? I've never seen it before. 

[Jimbokav1971]

New Stadium. May 2052.

This is a shock,  but much needed. 

Could my wait to have a stadium names after me finally be over? 

No, I don't think it is. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Facilities. May 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Job Offer #52. Jun 2052. 

I don't show every job offer I get, but this is the 1st time I have been offered a job by a club that would see me Managing a club in European competition. 

[turnip]

Good first season at the top, Jimbo. Beware of that second season syndrome, though 

[B.W.G]

Congrats on staying up  

Great to see the board looking to get you a new stadium.Looks like it will be a decent size as well which is even better.

[TheMadMonk]

 

Regarding the "19" Youth Recruitment ....above

 

I'm currently in Prem. on my Leeds save and same issue - I've even tried taking on a Continental Affiliate think that may expand are youth recruitment to 20 - but nothing yet.

 

Current thinking is either its never going to get there (as the description is same as Junior Coaching which is at 20) or its a reputation thing ?

 

BTW  - I've no idea how the corporate facilities increases either ...

Edited September 19, 2020 by TheMadMonk

[Jimbokav1971]

9 hours ago, B.W.G said:

Congrats on staying up  

Great to see the board looking to get you a new stadium.Looks like it will be a decent size as well which is even better.

Yeah, I'm really pleasantly surprised all round. 

[Jimbokav1971]

10 hours ago, TheMadMonk said:

 

Regarding the "19" Youth Recruitment ....above

I'm currently in Prem. on my Leeds save and same issue - I've even tried taking on a Continental Affiliate think that may expand are youth recruitment to 20 - but nothing yet.

Current thinking is either its never going to get there (as the description is same as Junior Coaching which is at 20) or its a reputation thing ?

BTW  - I've no idea how the corporate facilities increases either ...

I've assumed, (possibly incorrectly), that it's linked to reputation. My Irchester reputation is currently National (

If I look at the top clubs in England, and then look at their facilities, this is what I find. 

Man City. 20.20.18.19. Worldwide (9,826)
Arsenal.18.18.19.20. Worldwide (8,884)
Wolves. 19.19.18.29. Worldwide (9,822)
Man Utd. 19.19.20.20. Worldwide (9,507)
Liverpool. 19.19.20.20. Worldwide (8.945)
Spurs. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,473)
Brighton. 18.18.17.20. Continental (8,211)
Chelsea. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,379)
Middlesbrough. 16.17.18.20 Continental (7,999)
Bristol City. 16.18.16.16 Continental (8,053)
C.Palace. 18.19.20.20. Worldwide (8.250)
Fulham. 16.16.17.20 Continental (7,372)
Everton. 16.17.18.20 Continental (7,874)
Bournemouth. 16.16.17.17. Continental (8,108)
Aston Villa. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,281)
Leeds. 19.19.19.20. Continental (7,884)
Irchester. 20.19.20.19. National (6,509)
(R)Sheff Utd. 17.17.18.20. National (6,719) Well that's thrown a spanner in the works.  It could be though that their reputation has just been reduced as a result of their relegation?
(R)Charlton. 13.15.15.14. National (6,174)
(R)Burnley. 20.20.26.20. National (6.706) Again, maybe their reputation has just been downgraded as a result of relegation. 

What is your Leeds reputation in your game? 

[Edit]

Just to clarify, I have looked at the teams at the top of the Championship to see if they would shed any light on things. 

(P)West Brom. 16.17.18.20. National (7,230)
(P)Leicester. 16.15.15.19. National (7,076)
Newcastle Utd. 15.17.15.17. National (6.534)
Nottm Forest. 14.16.17.14. National (6.093)
West Ham. 17.18.15.18. National (7,130)

So this actually suggests that it's NOT linked to reputation. 

Edited September 20, 2020 by Jimbokav1971

[OldManGravz]

1 hour ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

I've assumed, (possibly incorrectly), that it's linked to reputation. My Irchester reputation is currently National (

If I look at the top clubs in England, and then look at their facilities, this is what I find. 

Man City. 20.20.18.19. Worldwide (9,826)
Arsenal.18.18.19.20. Worldwide (8,884)
Wolves. 19.19.18.29. Worldwide (9,822)
Man Utd. 19.19.20.20. Worldwide (9,507)
Liverpool. 19.19.20.20. Worldwide (8.945)
Spurs. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,473)
Brighton. 18.18.17.20. Continental (8,211)
Chelsea. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,379)
Middlesbrough. 16.17.18.20 Continental (7,999)
Bristol City. 16.18.16.16 Continental (8,053)
C.Palace. 18.19.20.20. Worldwide (8.250)
Fulham. 16.16.17.20 Continental (7,372)
Everton. 16.17.18.20 Continental (7,874)
Bournemouth. 16.16.17.17. Continental (8,108)
Aston Villa. 18.18.20.20. Worldwide (8,281)
Leeds. 19.19.19.20. Continental (7,884)
Irchester. 20.19.20.19. National (6,509)
(R)Sheff Utd. 17.17.18.20. National (6,719) Well that's thrown a spanner in the works.  It could be though that their reputation has just been reduced as a result of their relegation?
(R)Charlton. 13.15.15.14. National (6,174)
(R)Burnley. 20.20.26.20. National (6.706) Again, maybe their reputation has just been downgraded as a result of relegation. 

What is your Leeds reputation in your game? 

[Edit]

Just to clarify, I have looked at the teams at the top of the Championship to see if they would shed any light on things. 

(P)West Brom. 16.17.18.20. National (7,230)
(P)Leicester. 16.15.15.19. National (7,076)
Newcastle Utd. 15.17.15.17. National (6.534)
Nottm Forest. 14.16.17.14. National (6.093)
West Ham. 17.18.15.18. National (7,130)

So this actually suggests that it's NOT linked to reputation. 

Could it be linked to having affiliates where you choose the option "recruiting better foreign youth players" or whatever the exact wording is

[Jimbokav1971]

37 minutes ago, OldManGravz said:

Could it be linked to having affiliates where you choose the option "recruiting better foreign youth players" or whatever the exact wording is

Possibly but I don't think so. 

I created an affiliate and then converted the affiliate to incorporate the "Youth benefits" one. 

Although maybe that's not the link you mean and there is another one that's similar. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Job Offer #54. Jul 2052. 

Another International job offer. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Enormous deal incoming. Absolutely Gigantic. Jul 2052. 

• £40M cash offer. 
• 5 year deal. 
• £4.1M a year in wages. 
• £5M bonus. 
• Total cost of the deal = £65.5M 

[Pompeyboyz]

You buying back JFC?

[Jimbokav1971]

Just now, Pompeyboyz said:

You buying back JFC?

I'm afraid not. 

There is no way on Earth I could afford either the transfer or the wages. 

I should add that I was also in for (37b) Júnior (POR) F.Det * recently, but despite having a fee of £40M agreed, He wouldn't even negotiate with me, (which is not a surprise considering that he is also at Wolves now and is being paid £9.1M per year. 

[Pompeyboyz]

That leaves either Komba or Gerard then I suppose?? 

[Jimbokav1971]

Just now, Pompeyboyz said:

That leaves either Komba or Gerard then I suppose?? 

I was also in for (37c) Komba (TAN) *, but I couldn't get anywhere near to his wage demands as he went to Saudi Arabia on a free. 

[Jimbokav1971]

24 minutes ago, Jimbokav1971 said:

Enormous deal incoming. Absolutely Gigantic. Jul 2052. 

• £40M cash offer. 
• 5 year deal. 
• £4.1M a year in wages. 
• £5M bonus. 
• Total cost of the deal = £65.5M 

In order to justify spending £40M on 1 player, after just 1 season in the Premier League, I decided that I had to have at least the potential to sell him on and make some money back if we were relegated. 23yo (46a) Gérard (FRA) (F.Pro) * gives us just that opportunity. 

I don't think the USA move was good for him and I think his development has suffered as a result. It will be interesting to see how much, (if anything), I can get out of him. I thought he was going to be amazing when I sold him. 

The truth is that he's not worth £40M. I'm not going to try and pretend that he is, but when you have so few players in the pool to buy from, he probably is worth £40M to us. 

It's interesting that although we never got our £14M for his 50% sale from Atlanta to Porto, we have had the 50% clause activated since then when payments are made. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Records. Jul 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Wonderkid. Aug 2052. 

(50b) Okoro (NED) (F.Det) is obviously the future, but I don't want to start playing him as 1st choice until I have a buyer at a decent price for (47a) Best (F.Det) *. I will still be playing (50b) Okoro (NED) (F.Det) in Cup games and when I rotate the squad. 

Not only is (50b) Okoro (NED) (F.Det) a wonderkid, but he is also dubbed the new van der Sar.

[Jimbokav1971]

Wage Expenditure in the Premier league. Sep 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Summer Transfer Window. Sep 2052. 

(44d) Gough (LIB)(F.Amb)6'2" did well for us when called upon, but he's not Premier League level and there is no point pretending that he is. We are better off playing a poorer player with better PA and improving them. I doubt if letting him leave will cause us to get relegated. 

(44i) McDonald (GUY) (F.Pro) * is a player that I really liked in the past, but he was always behind even better players in the left hand side position. I've loaned him out for the last 3 seasons but it's time for him to move on.

(43f) Fabian (JAM) (Pro) * is a GK who 1st choice GK for a couple of seasons, but who has seen much better players come through since then and was 3rd choice at best. It made sense to cash in on him. 

(51o) NdM (BEL) (Pro) is a really strange one, because he's actually a player that I really like, but for a few reasons has never been given a chance. To start off with he's a small left winger, and anyone paying attention will know that I'm squeezing "big" players in there to try and take advantage of their size via set pieces. In addition to that he was (51o) meaning that he came through ranked 15 of 16 in that intake. I was keeping an eye on the reports, (in the hope that it changed), and although it did change, it didn't change enough to warrant finding a place for him. I've sold him for a modest £200k (rising to £600k), but it will be interesting to look back in future seasons and see did we get this one wrong.

(47h) Munton (Spirit) ML * was a player I was never overly keen on, even when he was playing. He played almost 100 league games for us, but I was always looking for someone better to come in . Now I feel I'm able to cash in on him and move him on. The fact that I got such decent money for him, (and the fact that he's had a decent start at MK Dons in the Championship), suggests that the problem was mine and not his. 

(39a) Harri (M.Pro) * was an actual Icon for us. Our all-time record goal-scorer with 252 goals and also all-time record league goal-scorer with 216 league goals. The problem is that he was way off the pace last season and although I wanted to keep him around for mentoring purposes, (and for our rotated squad), he wasn't interested in negotiating a new contract and left on a free.  He will surely continue scoring goals at a lower level soon, (although I'm astonished that nobody has signed him up yet). I know he only scored 2 Premier League goals last season, but I'm personally delighted that he scored at least 1 because it meant that he scored at every level from Conference National to Premier League. Brilliant stuff. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Aug 2052. 

Premier League. It's been a tough start to the season but Chelsea were much better than last season and Wolves are just a big big big club now. We should have beaten Leicester and should have hammered West Brom, but they scored and we didn't. Our aim is still to finish 4th bottom again, but this time we need to do so while collecting more points. 

Cup games. Well that's 1 Cup win more than we managed last season. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Form. Sep 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

1st fine of the season. Sep 2052. 

We drew. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Sep 2052. 

Premier League. We were great against Liverpool and desperately unlucky not to collect all 3 points. Don't bother at looking up the table. All we care about is the 2 below us and Leeds at this stage. We will do better when the fixtures start coming thick and fast anyway, (I hope). 

Cup games. I rotated the squad ridiculously, and we lost out on penalties. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Boom!  1st Premier League win of the season. Oct 2052.

This was the 1st goal of the game. 

It's fair to say that it was from a fair way out and there was a little bit of curvage on the shot. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Facilities. Oct 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

New Affiliate club. Oct 2052. 

Obviously there are no active players at this club because the German structure isn't active, but you never know. 

[DaneBramage]

I really should have commented on this earlier, but this is a great save. An amazing achievement to get promoted this many times, let alone with the youth only restrictions.

All the details you highlight and pay attention to were a key part in inspiring me to finally update to the newest version, and I dare say a lot of the ways you play the game have influenced most people on this forum.

I'm on my first proper FM20 save after having played FM07 for so long, and on that version players didn't tend to accumulate anywhere near as much fatigue. Copying your rotation policy and playing the second string for the harder games has definitely helped me gain some unexpected results.

[Jimbokav1971]

Oct 2052. 

Premier League. We grab our 1st and 2nd wins of the season to drag ourselves clear of the relegation. Importantly too, we we also have 2 games in hand. (Remember that we are ground-sharing with MK Dons and our fixtures are sometimes re-scheduled as a result). 

 

[Jimbokav1971]

16 hours ago, DaneBramage said:

I really should have commented on this earlier, but this is a great save. An amazing achievement to get promoted this many times, let alone with the youth only restrictions.

All the details you highlight and pay attention to were a key part in inspiring me to finally update to the newest version, and I dare say a lot of the ways you play the game have influenced most people on this forum.

I'm on my first proper FM20 save after having played FM07 for so long, and on that version players didn't tend to accumulate anywhere near as much fatigue. Copying your rotation policy and playing the second string for the harder games has definitely helped me gain some unexpected results.

Thanks very much for taking the time to comment. 

Glad the rotation strategy is working for you. I think that playing weaker players is a strategy often over-looked by FM players. 

[Jimbokav1971]

2nd fine of the season. Oct 2052. 

6 yellows is fine, but a 43rd min red card isn't. We lost. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Nov 2052. 

Premier League. Only 1 win, but it's against one of the teams around us and keeps us out of the relegation zone. We still also have 1 game in hand on Leeds and 2 games on everyone else. 

[Jimbokav1971]

3rd fine of the season. Dec 2052.

Again, 6 yellows is fine, but a 12th min red card is tough, especially against Man City. We lost. 

[Jimbokav1971]

Youth Intake preview. Dec 2052. 

[Jimbokav1971]

4th fine of the season. Dec 2052. 

We lost.