New Laptop/PC Advice -Please Read the Opening Post

[corinthiano]

On the restrictions - I asked in the FMT Forum first if running it on Windows would remove these restrictions, otherwise I would have gotten an iPad

Edited September 30, 2020 by corinthiano

[Smurf]

5 minutes ago, corinthiano said:

Thanks Smurf, any concerns in getting the 128 GB version of the Surface Pro? That one is actually the one I was thinking of getting.

128gb is quite a small amount of storage. Not sure if that can be expanded. 

I think it can take an SD card - but something you should check out.

3 minutes ago, corinthiano said:

On the restrictions - I asked in the FMT Forum first if running it on Windows would remove these restrictions, otherwise I would have gotten an iPad

I wouldn't have known. 

[corinthiano]

10 minutes ago, Smurf said:

128gb is quite a small amount of storage. Not sure if that can be expanded. 

I think it can take an SD card - but something you should check out.

I wouldn't have known. 

Thanks!

Would that be small amount of storage for FM or you mean in general? I am not looking to store a lot on it, just play FM really and store important documents as I only have a work laptop. If it impacts FM in any way though I would be happy to upgrade to 256GB  

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, corinthiano said:

Thanks!

Would that be small amount of storage for FM or you mean in general? I am not looking to store a lot on it, just play FM really and store important documents as I only have a work laptop. If it impacts FM in any way though I would be happy to upgrade to 256GB  

An SD card would be cheaper..

[corinthiano]

1 hour ago, Smurf said:

An SD card would be cheaper..

Very true, thank you really appreciate the feedback!

[BluebirdsCCFC]

Evening all, hope you're well. Welcome back, Smurf 

 

I'm looking to invest in a new laptop ready for FM21. Budget of £600-£700. Will only be used for FM, Remote Desktop to a work server and general browsing. 

 

I'd quite like to get it from Argos because I have £200ish worth of vouchers that can only be used there. I see they have 'laptops' and 'gaming laptops'.

 

Should I be looking at a gaming laptop, or are they only really for graphics-intense games? I'm not bothered about using the 3D engine as I've only ever used the 2D dots before. Would be nice to run 7/8 countries with a large DB though.

 

Any advice appreciated - many thanks.

Edited September 30, 2020 by BluebirdsCCFC

[Sweetleftfoot]

8 hours ago, Smurf said:

Firstly, the ARM processors will come in different specs, so it's impossible to know what the new Macbook will offer in terms of types of Arm processors.
It's rumoured that the first will be the A14x - but typical Apple, I can't find any information on it's speed, although the only info I found was that it was on par with the i7-8750H - which would make it good for FM.

Secondly, FM21 is not yet released, so we do not know the minimum specs required for FM21, although it will likely be similar to FM20. 

As long as it meets the minimum specs for the game - then it will run.
If it's below or close to the minimum specs, expect below and up to minimum performance.
The higher it is above minimum spec, expect a higher performance.

 

See i'm willing to spend upto 2.5K pounds for my new laptop, as it will be my daily driver (I only play FM20) so, that is why I would consider laptops like XPS 15 (maybe 13), Razer Blade 15, MSI GS66, or something similar.

 

Can you suggest something in that kinda range?

[World Class Keeper]

Good Evening guys,

Been having a look through and so far no one has mentioned battery life from the 10 or so pages, I currently have a laptop that runs FM okayish and would prefer to renew and future proof so assuming I would get atleast £200/£250 I would have a budget of about £750 give or take £100 and wondering what the best spec laptop I could get that boasts an incredible battery life that won't need charging every 1 hour or so.

Cheers

[Smurf]

11 hours ago, Sweetleftfoot said:

See i'm willing to spend upto 2.5K pounds for my new laptop, as it will be my daily driver (I only play FM20) so, that is why I would consider laptops like XPS 15 (maybe 13), Razer Blade 15, MSI GS66, or something similar.

Can you suggest something in that kinda range?

2.5k is a hefty budget! 

This is a whopper of a computer. 

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Ten-Core Processor i9-10900K (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
 

Price: £2,440.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-17/8QudNJ7rbt/

 

9 hours ago, World Class Keeper said:

Good Evening guys,

Been having a look through and so far no one has mentioned battery life from the 10 or so pages, I currently have a laptop that runs FM okayish and would prefer to renew and future proof so assuming I would get atleast £200/£250 I would have a budget of about £750 give or take £100 and wondering what the best spec laptop I could get that boasts an incredible battery life that won't need charging every 1 hour or so.

Cheers

They don't all specify battery specs

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6E9EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-dk10045na_2958256.html

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6F6EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ec1007na_2958258.html

 

Both of these are good for FM and boast 7-8 hours. But bewarned, FM is a processor game, so it will use more power than average. 

You do have power management settings when not plugged in to reduce the battery usage - https://support.microsoft.com/en-ie/help/4027067/windows-10-how-to-adjust-power-and-sleep-settings

When plugged in - you can set the power management settings to be full to get the best out of FM.

 

[World Class Keeper]

16 minutes ago, Smurf said:

They don't all specify battery specs

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6E9EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-dk10045na_2958256.html

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6F6EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ec1007na_2958258.html

 

Both of these are good for FM and boast 7-8 hours. But bewarned, FM is a processor game, so it will use more power than average.

Hi Smurf,

Thanks for much for you insightful reply, I would like to try and avoid using power management because in my experience is slows the main menus down and as such have seen this laptop last night, I wondered if this would be good for 5 leagues, medium database

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

I figured the less I could spend the better with Christmas coming up and it boasts 8-9 hours. (9 with power management but again not interested in using that) and even if it meant getting 6/7 hours playing FM I'd be more than a happy bunny.

My only worries is, is it worth £600 over my existing laptop:

Intel Core I7-4810MQ @ 2.8GHZ

GeForce GTX 850M

16GB Ram and an SSD

Only thing that let's my current laptop down is battery and not sure if replacing it would help?

[Smurf]

2 minutes ago, World Class Keeper said:

Hi Smurf,

Thanks for much for you insightful reply, I would like to try and avoid using power management because in my experience is slows the main menus down and as such have seen this laptop last night, I wondered if this would be good for 5 leagues, medium database

https://www.box.co.uk/81LK0039UK-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Gaming-L340-15_2934443.html

I figured the less I could spend the better with Christmas coming up and it boasts 8-9 hours. (9 with power management but again not interested in using that) and even if it meant getting 6/7 hours playing FM I'd be more than a happy bunny.

My only worries is, is it worth £600 over my existing laptop:

Intel Core I7-4810MQ @ 2.8GHZ

GeForce GTX 850M

16GB Ram and an SSD

Only thing that let's my current laptop down is battery and not sure if replacing it would help?

Yeh - that would be fine.

[Sweetleftfoot]

49 minutes ago, Smurf said:

2.5k is a hefty budget! 

This is a whopper of a computer. 

Chassis & Display
Recoil Series: 17.3" Matte Full HD 240Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080) + G-Sync
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i9 Ten-Core Processor i9-10900K (3.7GHz) 20MB Cache
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2070 - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3200MB/W)
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB PCS PCIe M.2 SSD (2000 MB/R, 1100 MB/W)
 

Price: £2,440.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/recoil-IV-17/8QudNJ7rbt/

 

They don't all specify battery specs

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6E9EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-dk10045na_2958256.html

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6F6EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ec1007na_2958258.html

 

Both of these are good for FM and boast 7-8 hours. But bewarned, FM is a processor game, so it will use more power than average. 

You do have power management settings when not plugged in to reduce the battery usage - https://support.microsoft.com/en-ie/help/4027067/windows-10-how-to-adjust-power-and-sleep-settings

When plugged in - you can set the power management settings to be full to get the best out of FM.

 

I know its a big budget but I tend to keep my laptops for a long period of time. My current Macbook Pro 15 is from 2013 and still working well, but graphics are weak for today's standard with just 2GB RAM. I got Apple care with it so was sorted for 4 years.

I think 17in screen is too big to carry around freely, that is why I had mentioned 15in (I'm ok to get a 14 or 13 in, as long as they have graphic capabilities). I have heard that the new Intel Gen 11 Tiger Lake processors with Xe integrated graphics have good graphics to handle games. I know so far U processors laptops will be available soon and H will come round something in mid-2021.

So what would you suggest? Do you think the Xe will be able to handle FM20 and going forward FM21+? Or should I stick to the H processors?

Note: I will be using the laptop in work settings too so anything with flashy LED keyboards etc will not work.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Sweetleftfoot

[Smurf]

47 minutes ago, Sweetleftfoot said:

I know its a big budget but I tend to keep my laptops for a long period of time. My current Macbook Pro 15 is from 2013 and still working well, but graphics are weak for today's standard with just 2GB RAM. I got Apple care with it so was sorted for 4 years.

I think 17in screen is too big to carry around freely, that is why I had mentioned 15in (I'm ok to get a 14 or 13 in, as long as they have graphic capabilities). I have heard that the new Intel Gen 11 Tiger Lake processors with Xe integrated graphics have good graphics to handle games. I know so far U processors laptops will be available soon and H will come round something in mid-2021.

So what would you suggest? Do you think the Xe will be able to handle FM20 and going forward FM21+? Or should I stick to the H processors?

Note: I will be using the laptop in work settings too so anything with flashy LED keyboards etc will not work.

It's impossible to answer questions on something not released yet.

15 inch 
- I don't know what battery life would be like - you could ask them directly - but nowhere near as good (although still excellent)

Chassis & Display
Vyper Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD 144Hz 72% NTSC LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Eight Core Processor 10875H (2.3GHz, 5.1GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
32GB Corsair 2400MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® RTX 2080 Max-Q - 8.0GB GDDR6 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
Thermal Paste
ARCTIC MX-4 EXTREME THERMAL CONDUCTIVITY COMPOUND
 

Price: £2,032.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/vyperIII-15/VpTBWCSX!C/

 

 

14 inch 
More than capable

Chassis & Display
Fusion Pro Series: 15.6" Matte Full HD sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i7 Six Core Processor 10750H (2.6GHz, 5GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (1 x 16GB)
Graphics Card
NVIDIA® GeForce® GTX 1650 Ti - 4.0GB GDDR5 Video RAM - DirectX® 12.1
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
1TB SAMSUNG 970 EVO PLUS M.2, PCIe NVMe (up to 3500MB/R, 3300MB/W)
 

Price: £1,289.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure: https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/FusionIV-pro-15/j3q3qHTChG/

 

As you go down in size of screen - the lesser your options can become. 

 

I checked other sites - and I don't believe I see better value than the above.

 

[Stu1892]

Typical.  When i went back to check over the spec, add more storage and Windows Pro and one or two other things.  The processor is no longer available.

But this is what i was looking at.  Again, my biggest requirement is the laptop not to sound like it's taking of from my lap when playing a match on FM.  

 

Quote

Chassis & Display
Fusion Pro Series: 14" Matte Full HD sRGB 100% LED Widescreen (1920x1080)
Processor (CPU)
AMD Ryzen™ 7 Eight Core Processor 4800H (2.9GHz, 4.2GHz Turbo)
Memory (RAM)
16GB Corsair 2666MHz SODIMM DDR4 (2 x 8GB)
Graphics Card
AMD® Radeon™ RX Vega 7 – 1,600 MHz, 7 Core (with Ryzen 7 4800H)
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
128GB ADATA SX6000 LITE M.2 2280 (1800 MB/R, 1200 MB/W)
AC Adaptor
1 x 90W AC Adaptor
 

 

[Smurf]

9 minutes ago, Stu1892 said:

Typical.  When i went back to check over the spec, add more storage and Windows Pro and one or two other things.  The processor is no longer available.

But this is what i was looking at.  Again, my biggest requirement is the laptop not to sound like it's taking of from my lap when playing a match on FM.  

 

 

You can get in touch with them and go through the spec - they are very helpful.

I can't attest for battery life/sound of fans etc. You'd need to have a chat.

[Stu1892]

9 minutes ago, Smurf said:

You can get in touch with them and go through the spec - they are very helpful.

I can't attest for battery life/sound of fans etc. You'd need to have a chat.

Cheers.  I've had a word about the Ryzen 7 4800H being out of stock.  I'd kind of sold myself on the 4800H.  So back to the drawing board if i want one soon.

I'll look at  the and look at the reviews for the machine itself.

Thanks again.
 

[Smurf]

9 minutes ago, Stu1892 said:

Cheers.  I've had a word about the Ryzen 7 4800H being out of stock.  I'd kind of sold myself on the 4800H.  So back to the drawing board if i want one soon.

I'll look at  the and look at the reviews for the machine itself.

Thanks again.
 

The website might say out of stock - but they might be in stock - who knows if the website is fully up to date.

Worth the call/email.

[Stu1892]

I'll try again then.  I got two one-word answers when i asked if it was out of stock and if i just had to wait.

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

[Smurf]

21 minutes ago, Stu1892 said:

I'll try again then.  I got two one-word answers when i asked if it was out of stock and if i just had to wait.

Yes.

 

Yes.

 

Depends who you get on the day then - jeez superhelpful lol

There's other sites

https://www.box.co.uk/GA401IU-HE001T-ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-G14-GA401IU-HE001T-(No_2860291.html

https://www.box.co.uk/GA502IU-AL011T-ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-G-GA502IU-AL011T_2860295.html

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6F7EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ec1009na_2958259.html

You'd have to check them out for battery life, weights, noise levels - or any other concerns.

 

[Mr Tom]

Hi,

I need help

i know that intel are better in single core but don’t know if intel is more optimised and smoother than amd.

 

i don’t know if it worth getting a laptop with a i5 10300h, 512 ssd and 1650/ti. Or is a i7 9750h or 10750h much of a improvement in fm. Because the single core is similar.

or get a laptop with a Ryzen 4600h & RX 5500m. 

 

[Smurf]

31 minutes ago, Mr Tom said:

Hi,

I need help

i know that intel are better in single core but don’t know if intel is more optimised and smoother than amd.

i don’t know if it worth getting a laptop with a i5 10300h, 512 ssd and 1650/ti. Or is a i7 9750h or 10750h much of a improvement in fm. Because the single core is similar.

or get a laptop with a Ryzen 4600h & RX 5500m. 
 

Performance, six of one, etc. 

Don't think you'll see much gains across similar rated, what you gain in one you might lose in another. 

What's your budget and we can take it from there.

Edited October 1, 2020 by Smurf

[Fola]

Hello.

My current laptop runs fm very slowly so I am looking for a new one for fm20 and fm21 when it comes out.

My budget is around £700. I only use my laptop for browsing the Internet and mostly this site. I dont use it for movies or any other games other than fm. I play 2d classic so don't need fancy graphics.

I am pretty clueless on computers so would love some recommendations. My current save takes about 2/3 just to process one day on fm! 

I run 5/6 countries with a large database usually. I am currently using England only but with a custom lower league database and it is going crazy slow.

Pretty much looking for a laptop that for fm is very quick and will allow me to enjoy the game as I hope but I dont use 3d graphics. I would love a laptop to just fly through fm as I do spend a lot of time pressing the space bar!

Thanks 

[Stu1892]

3 hours ago, Smurf said:

Depends who you get on the day then - jeez superhelpful lol

There's other sites

https://www.box.co.uk/GA401IU-HE001T-ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-G14-GA401IU-HE001T-(No_2860291.html

https://www.box.co.uk/GA502IU-AL011T-ASUS-ROG-Zephyrus-G-GA502IU-AL011T_2860295.html

https://www.box.co.uk/1L6F7EAABU-HP-Pavilion-Gaming-15-ec1009na_2958259.html

You'd have to check them out for battery life, weights, noise levels - or any other concerns.

 

A little steep for me. Looking around £800 but could stretch. Not dead set on AMD. Just that deal really. Open to anything. 

Mainly (entirely) FM (journeyman 3D) over the next few years and the generic use, sat on the sofa. No other games. 

Only thing that I'm bothered about is the laptop taking off when I went to match on my Macbook  Air. I know its not for gaming. But I'll) at the things you mentioned on that! 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Stu1892

[Fola]

1 hour ago, Fola said:

Hello.

My current laptop runs fm very slowly so I am looking for a new one for fm20 and fm21 when it comes out.

My budget is around £700. I only use my laptop for browsing the Internet and mostly this site. I dont use it for movies or any other games other than fm. I play 2d classic so don't need fancy graphics.

I am pretty clueless on computers so would love some recommendations. My current save takes about 2/3 just to process one day on fm! 

I run 5/6 countries with a large database usually. I am currently using England only but with a custom lower league database and it is going crazy slow.

Pretty much looking for a laptop that for fm is very quick and will allow me to enjoy the game as I hope but I dont use 3d graphics. I would love a laptop to just fly through fm as I do spend a lot of time pressing the space bar!

Thanks 

I have attached my current laptop 

[kevhamster]

22 hours ago, BluebirdsCCFC said:

Evening all, hope you're well. Welcome back, Smurf 

 

I'm looking to invest in a new laptop ready for FM21. Budget of £600-£700. Will only be used for FM, Remote Desktop to a work server and general browsing. 

 

I'd quite like to get it from Argos because I have £200ish worth of vouchers that can only be used there. I see they have 'laptops' and 'gaming laptops'.

 

Should I be looking at a gaming laptop, or are they only really for graphics-intense games? I'm not bothered about using the 3D engine as I've only ever used the 2D dots before. Would be nice to run 7/8 countries with a large DB though.

 

Any advice appreciated - many thanks.

Hi mate.

If FM is the only game you play, then a dedicated graphics card really isn't needed, especially if you only play in 2D.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8114448

That should suit your needs perfectly.  It'll be able to play FM at the level you've described really nicely, and the integrated graphics will be good enough if you do want to play in 3D at any point.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Fola said:

I have attached my current laptop 

That laptop shouldn't really have any issues running FM, unless you have virus issues or some of the hardware is failing?

Have you checked for viruses etc?  Just to make sure you're not rushing into a purchase you don't necessarily need.

[Fola]

1 minute ago, kevhamster said:

That laptop shouldn't really have any issues running FM, unless you have virus issues or some of the hardware is failing?

Have you checked for viruses etc?  Just to make sure you're not rushing into a purchase you don't necessarily need.

I have had it for around 4 years now so I just put it down to that. Let me have a check and I will get back to you. Thanks 

[Welshace]

1 hour ago, Fola said:

I have attached my current laptop 

As Kev above has eluded too, that laptop is well above acceptable for FM ... it should run it like a dream... the only thing you need on that is more ram i'd say... if it's running slow.. consider a clean wipe of the computer and start from scratch and try not to fill it with crap!

 

For you're budget of around £700, you'd struggle to come up with a better laptop...

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, Fola said:

I have had it for around 4 years now so I just put it down to that. Let me have a check and I will get back to you. Thanks 

Obviously, the hardware is a few years old but that CPU is still pretty decent even by today's standards even though it wouldn't be classed as top of the range any more.

[kevhamster]

1 hour ago, Stu1892 said:

A little steep for me. Looking around £800 but could stretch. Not dead set on AMD. Just that deal really. Open to anything. 

Mainly (entirely) FM (journeyman 3D) over the next few years and the generic use, sat on the sofa. No other games. 

Only thing that I'm bothered about is the laptop taking off when I went to match on my Macbook  Air. I know its not for gaming. But I'll) at the things you mentioned on that! 

This should fit your needs:

https://www.box.co.uk/M509DA-BQ321T-ASUS-M509DA-BQ321T_2886177.html

[Fola]

30 minutes ago, Welshace said:

As Kev above has eluded too, that laptop is well above acceptable for FM ... it should run it like a dream... the only thing you need on that is more ram i'd say... if it's running slow.. consider a clean wipe of the computer and start from scratch and try not to fill it with crap!

 

For you're budget of around £700, you'd struggle to come up with a better laptop...

Okay thanks for letting me know. I think I will do that- start from stratch! Can you buy more RAM? Is that possible?

[BluebirdsCCFC]

49 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

Hi mate.

If FM is the only game you play, then a dedicated graphics card really isn't needed, especially if you only play in 2D.

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8114448

That should suit your needs perfectly.  It'll be able to play FM at the level you've described really nicely, and the integrated graphics will be good enough if you do want to play in 3D at any point.

Thank you, Kev. I really appreciate that. Will be buying it tomorrow.

[kevhamster]

15 minutes ago, Fola said:

Okay thanks for letting me know. I think I will do that- start from stratch! Can you buy more RAM? Is that possible?

Yes, generally the RAM is one of the few things you can upgrade on a laptop (but that does depend on the laptop model - it's not always possible).  I'd check with your local computer repair store if you have one, but you'd probably be able to upgrade to 16GB RAM.

[Fola]

Just now, kevhamster said:

Yes, generally the RAM is one of the few things you can upgrade on a laptop (but that does depend on the laptop model - it's not always possible).  I'd check with your local computer repair store if you have one, but you'd probably be able to upgrade to 16GB RAM.

Okay thanks mate. I am just moving my FM stuff onto on external hardrive then I am going to wipe my computer and start from scratch. Would you recommend that?

[kevhamster]

7 minutes ago, Fola said:

Okay thanks mate. I am just moving my FM stuff onto on external hardrive then I am going to wipe my computer and start from scratch. Would you recommend that?

Yep, sometimes a Windows refresh does the world of good.  Back up anything you want to keep (your FM saves will be in your Documents folder, in case you didn't know).  You may see a decent upgrade in performance as a fresh install should get rid of all the bloat you accumulate in your system over time.

[Fola]

Just now, kevhamster said:

Yep, sometimes a Windows refresh does the world of good.  Back up anything you want to keep (your FM saves will be in your Documents folder, in case you didn't know).  You may see a decent upgrade in performance as a fresh install should get rid of all the bloat you accumulate in your system over time.

Okay I will do that then.

I have moved my saves and tactics onto an External hardrive. Everything else can go- I will delete all the facepacks and everything too and reupload. 

Sorry if this is a silly question but I have never rebooted and wiped a laptop before. Is this how to do it? https://www.techradar.com/uk/how-to/computing/how-to-factory-reset-a-laptop-1318286 

[kevhamster]

3 minutes ago, Fola said:

Okay I will do that then.

I have moved my saves and tactics onto an External hardrive. Everything else can go- I will delete all the facepacks and everything too and reupload. 

Sorry if this is a silly question but I have never rebooted and wiped a laptop before. Is this how to do it? https://www.techradar.com/uk/how-to/computing/how-to-factory-reset-a-laptop-1318286 

Bear in mind that a lot of the sites with the facepacks, logo packs etc took these offline at the start of FM20 due to copyright issues, so you may struggle to get the same packs as you had.

I'd follow this guide, as some of the steps in the one you've linked look like they're for an older version of Windows: https://uk.pcmag.com/windows-xp-2/118555/how-to-factory-reset-windows-10

[Bayern Bru]

Hi, would this be suitable for running 2-3 nations saves? I only ever really play one save long term for 10 seasons or so, with top league loaded and nearby nations. 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8181756

Budget is about £600. Only requirements out with processor/ram is needs to be 14 inch HD screen.

 

Edited October 1, 2020 by Bayern Bru

[Mr Tom]

9 hours ago, Smurf said:

Performance, six of one, etc. 

Don't think you'll see much gains across similar rated, what you gain in one you might lose in another. 

What's your budget and we can take it from there.

I’m looking at a laptop with a i5 10300h, 1650, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(2933mhz)
&

laptop with Ryzen 4600h & rx 5500m, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(3200mhz)

so don’t know if Ryzen or intel is more optimised for fm?

[kevhamster]

11 hours ago, Bayern Bru said:

Hi, would this be suitable for running 2-3 nations saves? I only ever really play one save long term for 10 seasons or so, with top league loaded and nearby nations. 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/8181756

Budget is about £600. Only requirements out with processor/ram is needs to be 14 inch HD screen.

 

It should work ok, even though the clock speed is below the minimum recommended for FM due to the way these newer processors work.

Another one to consider is this one.  I can speak from experience with the previous generation of this particular CPU (I have a laptop with the Ryzen 5 2500U) and managed a more demanding game setup than you're after and found the processing to be quick:

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9085538

[Smurf]

6 hours ago, Mr Tom said:

I’m looking at a laptop with a i5 10300h, 1650, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(2933mhz)
&

laptop with Ryzen 4600h & rx 5500m, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(3200mhz)

so don’t know if Ryzen or intel is more optimised for fm?

 

The Ryzen would be better I would think.

[kevhamster]

7 hours ago, Mr Tom said:

I’m looking at a laptop with a i5 10300h, 1650, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(2933mhz)
&

laptop with Ryzen 4600h & rx 5500m, 256 ssd and 8gb ram(3200mhz)

so don’t know if Ryzen or intel is more optimised for fm?

Traditionally, you would say Intel because of their single core performance, but that's not necessarily quite so true these days.

With these two CPU's specifically though, I'd go for the Ryzen.  The Intel scores marginally higher in single core performance (which is the biggest factor in FM, but it is a marginal difference), but the Ryzen has more cores and more threads so you will see a stronger overall performance from the Ryzen.

[Terry1406]

Hey, new to the forum. I recently got a laptop for my son for his birthday and wanted to know if it would run the upcoming FM game? Sadly I can not afford to get a better one so if it isn't good is there any settings i can use to make it better? He said something about adding a megapack to the game that is 16GB for faces, could the laptop handle that?

 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9206197

[kevhamster]

40 minutes ago, Terry1406 said:

Hey, new to the forum. I recently got a laptop for my son for his birthday and wanted to know if it would run the upcoming FM game? Sadly I can not afford to get a better one so if it isn't good is there any settings i can use to make it better? He said something about adding a megapack to the game that is 16GB for faces, could the laptop handle that?

 

https://www.argos.co.uk/product/9206197

In terms of running FM, it should be able to handle it.  The CPU is pretty decent.  4GB RAM isn't ideal and may slow things up a bit, but it shouldn't be unusable in any way.  He probably won't be able to have the 3D match graphics at the highest settings, but I'd imagine it should handle medium settings well enough.

With regards to the graphic packs, that should be fine as long as he has left sufficient space on the storage to download them.

Edited October 2, 2020 by kevhamster

[Bayern Bru]

Thanks for reply. So both of these would run 2-3 nations comfortably then? Worried that Laptop 1 only has "1.6GHz processor speed with a burst speed of 4.2GHz". Would this be sufficient?

Laptop 1

Laptop 2

Thanks 

[Smurf]

4 minutes ago, Bayern Bru said:

Thanks for reply. So both of these would run 2-3 nations comfortably then? Worried that Laptop 1 only has "1.6GHz processor speed with a burst speed of 4.2GHz". Would this be sufficient?

Laptop 1

Laptop 2

Thanks 

I'd go with Laptop 2

[Terry1406]

45 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

In terms of running FM, it should be able to handle it.  The CPU is pretty decent.  4GB RAM isn't ideal and may slow things up a bit, but it shouldn't be unusable in any way.  He probably won't be able to have the 3D match graphics at the highest settings, but I'd imagine it should handle medium settings well enough.

With regards to the graphic packs, that should be fine as long as he has left sufficient space on the storage to download them./

Thank you very much for the reply. In regards to the ram can I make that better? And my son wanted to know how many leagues would it be able to handle? He wanted to run England, Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Thank you

[Bayern Bru]

1 minute ago, Smurf said:

I'd go with Laptop 2

Thanks @Smurf - would Laptop 1 run relatively comfortably still? 

[kevhamster]

1 minute ago, Terry1406 said:

Thank you very much for the reply. In regards to the ram can I make that better? And my son wanted to know how many leagues would it be able to handle? He wanted to run England, Germany, Spain, Italy and France. Thank you

You can generally upgrade the RAM, but I would imagine modifications like that would void the warranty, so I would exercise caution in that regard.  If you have a computer repair store locally, ask them what the costs would be to increase the RAM to 8GB, and check with the manufacturer if it would affect the warranty.

However, I don't imagine it will struggle to run the setup you've described.  4GB is still above the minimum suggested requirements - it's just not necessarily optimal.  I'd see how it handles before looking at any changes though as you may find your son is more than happy with how it runs it all.

[Terry1406]

4 minutes ago, kevhamster said:

You can generally upgrade the RAM, but I would imagine modifications like that would void the warranty, so I would exercise caution in that regard.  If you have a computer repair store locally, ask them what the costs would be to increase the RAM to 8GB, and check with the manufacturer if it would affect the warranty.

However, I don't imagine it will struggle to run the setup you've described.  4GB is still above the minimum suggested requirements - it's just not necessarily optimal.  I'd see how it handles before looking at any changes though as you may find your son is more than happy with how it runs it all.

Thank you very much, good to know. He's been panicking about it all week!