knap Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Tested with MU in FMT no OIs 22213 !!FM18.3.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap22213P103.fmf !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213MUP104ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf Tested with Arsenal in FMT no OIs FM 18.3 I think this was a requested formation !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213P101.fmf !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213VOLANTEP101.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 Looking solid so far... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
stefanopedini89 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 all your tactics work with instant result?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 All P&P tactics should work with Instant Result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 As effective as Hammerhead or less/more so? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 No idea. but MR L should be testing soon. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 4 minutes ago, knap said: No idea. but MR L should be testing soon. Having decent success with hammered in my England Team save. i'll get this up to familiarity in the 2nd slot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
MR4-4-4-2 Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 lower team or just top team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 26, 2018 Author Share Posted March 26, 2018 Top team but including lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted March 26, 2018 Share Posted March 26, 2018 3 hours ago, stefanopedini89 said: all your tactics work with instant result?? That’s the only way I play and I’ve had fantastic results. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
8328265 Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 It's not good to kick on the road. Are there any conservative formations? Please give me a link. Thanks to the landlord! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Rough guide as what tactics to use Top team can be used for Home games or easy games - sub top even games - under dog Away or difficult games Also Try CONTROL or COUNTER for difficult Away game if necessary and a SUS Tactic to close out game. Top team BLUE MATTER 343 BLUE MATTER 4213 BLUE MATTER 433 ARGUS 343 ARGUS 352 ARGUS 3511 ARGUS 433 GOODBYE 442/4231/451 WOF 343 PILGRIMAGE 343 PILGRIMAGE 3511 WOKING 451 BLUE MATTER 4312 GOODBYE 3421 MIDSOMER 442 Sub Top WOF 343 Volante 442 including BBM and BWM PILGRIMAGE 343 GOODBYE 343 ARGUS 343 ARGUS 352 ARGUS 3511 GOODBYE 442 THE WALL 4141 ARGUS 3412 WHITE EUROPE 4231 TWEAK HOME Underdog Volante 442 anchor GOODBYE VOL 2 ARGUS 343 THE WALL 4141 WOF 352 ARGUS 3430 WHITE EUROPE 451 TWEAK AWAY Strikerless Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 BLUE MATTER 4213 VOLANTE FM 18.3 !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213VOLANTEP101.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corei Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 51 dakika önce, knap said: BLUE MATTER 4231 VOLANTE FM 18.3 !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213VOLANTEP101.fmf It's 4-2-1-3, I was hyped when I saw 4-2-3-1 but... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Have you tried the GOODBYE 4231 and White Europe tweak. Corrected thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 58 minutes ago, knap said: BLUE MATTER 4213 VOLANTE FM 18.3 !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213VOLANTEP101.fmf More defensive? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Yes - Less goals scored and conceded, so maybe an away tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Results using original tactic. Also won CL. All with Instant Result. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Nearly unbeaten in League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Have you ever done a really defensive based tactic ? I really don't enjoy the 3 strikers formations and 130 goals a year formations as they are not realistic to me. I'm a Juventus fan and i would really like to play a formation wich break records defensively, like your team is known as a fortress. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 THE WALL 4141 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Ok thanks, looks solid i like it Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Also the White Europe tweak of the goodbye 451 found in GOODBYE 4231 Thread Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
raf0u Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 Thanks mate, i will play with both for a season to test it out wich one is the most solid defensively. Wich one of "The Wall 4141" and "White Europe away 451" offers the best result in your opinion ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 I've never used White Europe tweak but good feedback. White Europe is very good at tweaking tactics especially for underdogs. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted March 27, 2018 Share Posted March 27, 2018 442 Anchor is pretty solid defensivly too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 27, 2018 Author Share Posted March 27, 2018 Walker as an attacking ball playing central defender yet red role in FM. Another good tweak, in fact never lost a game with MR L Testing league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 Just saw that 'Rough guide as what tactics to use'. I might have missed it, but don't you have sub top tactic for a team like Fiorentina with 3 forwards and 4 defenders? The only ones with 3 forwards i found had 3 CB's. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 28, 2018 Author Share Posted March 28, 2018 It is based on past experience and feedback, so if you did well with Florentino I would add a 433 into sub top. In general a 343 will be a more defensive formation than 433. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkdsoul Posted March 28, 2018 Share Posted March 28, 2018 On 3/26/2018 at 19:11, knap said: No idea. but MR L should be testing soon. Decided to do a mashup of how i had hammerhead into this,with 2 sitting midfielders, and KDB in an AP-Support role. ... amazing front line in this one, was 5-0 up by half time in the Manchester Derby. Aguero lethal. Played out the second half on retain posession & control. (my squad has a few injuries i needed to save the legs). still bagged another though Might see if i can tweak the DMC one into a time waste version Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 What would you say is the "ideal" away/hard game tactic (playing with arsenal and spurs over 2 savegames) while using this one as the home/easy/standard tactic? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 In theory the best Away tactic would be the highest point scoring. I would tend to use ARGUS 343 as an Away tactic perhaps on counter. However, as a negative defensive tactic changing ARGUS to this formation may be an option Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, knap said: In theory the best Away tactic would be the highest point scoring. I would tend to use ARGUS 343 as an Away tactic perhaps on counter. However, as a negative defensive tactic changing ARGUS to this formation may be an option Makes sense thanks! For some reason im getting way better results with the Blue Matter 343 than with this one. Spurs and Arsenal just happen to have very good AMC's so i like to use AMC Might just migrate to the BM 343 and use ARGUS 343 as the away tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jimmyrh94 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Hey knap! You give a lot of suggestions based on what you feel is the best or based on what others have come back with. I'd love to hear how you personally play the game, whether that be FMT or full fat? Do you have a typical home and away set, or do you just use one tactic and make tweaks as you go? Perhaps you just purely plug and play and never change a thing? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 Am i the only one who concedes on almost every single cross into the box? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 I just use 1 tactic, and I only change if down to 10 when I may use a SUS. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 An exception is I sometimes run a lower league game and change tactic every 5 games, just to test if it works in lower leagues. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jmmf91 Posted March 30, 2018 Share Posted March 30, 2018 1 hour ago, knap said: I just use 1 tactic, and I only change if down to 10 when I may use a SUS. Whats the best SUS tactic? When you are down to 10 what do tou do? Ive been using the bluematter 433 and my CB's see a red card every 2 games... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted March 30, 2018 Author Share Posted March 30, 2018 The formation above should be good for a SUS without a MC if down to 10. Mentality can be dropped to contain with time wasting. Defensive is also a good mentality. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 Knap this tactic is by far the best around and the most overachieving, i tried most of the tactics from this and other forums Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted April 22, 2018 Author Share Posted April 22, 2018 I often use the less popular tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cuper Posted April 22, 2018 Share Posted April 22, 2018 last year it was the same, most people claimed 343 352 and similar were best formations for FM17, but IMHO the best tactic you made was the narrow 4312 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
konvas Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 I first used Knaps 4213 in online save deep into 2026. I made these 2 tweaks for attacking and control mentality. Tweaks involved player instructions to suit my players strengths. As I have mentioned, I am doing maxing out tests, i.e trying to dominate as much as possible and break the performance boundaries. This was about maxing out goals in the 38 games of the EPL. So its not tested on any of the starting teams or any of the sub-top or underdog categories. So use with care. My aim is to put it on MrL tactics testing to see what will produce. So, I tested just the attacking tactic by simming the save file all year (holidays, same tactic, same lineup, made about 4-5 stops throughout the season for conditioning any unhappiness) and produced 150 goals in 38 EPL games. I also played game-by-game the same online save, same season with same team also Vs 2 other human players and I used a mix of the attacking and control tweaked tactic and got 167 goals in 38 EPL games. Defence looks solid but my def players were top class especially in positioning and tackling. Definitely requires top class players to get it working so good. For example, you probably never tried to find an AM with good aggression but I wanted one so that he can effectively press and tackle opposition mids to get the ball back. Treat with care and let me know what these tweaks produce for your team. (both tactics files attached here) ! 18.3.3 Kon 4-2-1-3 att.fmf ! 18.3.3 Kon 4-2-1-3 ctr.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 FM 18.3.3 Tested with MU in FMT no OIs All Cups No Loss tactic !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213MUP104ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Heywood JaBlowme Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 ^ Better for top club or would this work for mid table club? Thanks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 6, 2018 Author Share Posted June 6, 2018 I would say top Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
whispers Posted June 7, 2018 Share Posted June 7, 2018 20 hours ago, knap said: FM 18.3.3 Tested with MU in FMT no OIs All Cups No Loss tactic !!FM18.3BLUEMATTERVO4Knap4213MUP104ALLCUPSNOLOSS.fmf how would you rank this one compared to say Pilgrimage 4231 ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 7, 2018 Author Share Posted June 7, 2018 For a nearly standard original squad even for a top team not losing is close to a perfect season, as you still have to win against the top teams. However you also have to be lucky. I would say that the 451 4231 and 4213 can all use the same squad of players so gives a multi formation possibility. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
omrgul Posted June 9, 2018 Share Posted June 9, 2018 On 30/03/2018 at 15:59, knap said: In theory the best Away tactic would be the highest point scoring. I would tend to use ARGUS 343 as an Away tactic perhaps on counter. However, as a negative defensive tactic changing ARGUS to this formation may be an option Hey knap, can you please please please share this tactic? Are there any PIs for Anchor, Wingers etc? Thanks a lot in advance. I am using your new Pilgrimage 451. And this one would go very well with that one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted June 9, 2018 Author Share Posted June 9, 2018 All I do is take the original tactic and move to the positions, as it is just for part of a game. I do not make any PI changes just leave as they are after the position has been moved. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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