Solid Gone Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Ive signed Babbel, Beardsley, Ray Clemence on mine .. Legends .. Pako rejected me though (hes now a fitness coach back in spain :o)..when i get the full game going to sign the likes of smicer, hamann, berger, henchoz, dudek, fowler to tutor youths and become coaches in the long run . Yeah, I got Clem as well...he was unemployed. I will definitely be nabbing "The Kaiser" when he finishes his playing career, and I've already buttered up big Sami by using the "he would make a good coach" option. Fowler says he's out of the game when he retires if you look at his personal file...but I'm sure if LFC came a calling, he would reconsider. I'll be looking at Jari Litmanen (if he ever hangs up his boots) as well. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_90 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Yeah, I got Clem as well...he was unemployed.I will definitely be nabbing "The Kaiser" when he finishes his playing career, and I've already buttered up big Sami by using the "he would make a good coach" option. Fowler says he's out of the game when he retires if you look at his personal file...but I'm sure if LFC came a calling, he would reconsider. I'll be looking at Jari Litmanen (if he ever hangs up his boots) as well. Yeah Litmanan will be looking into him. Will give them all coach clause on there contracts .. im just going to have a reserve team on like 35 year olds lol. Dudek, Hyypia, Hamman, Berger, Smicer, Litmanan, Fowler and keep my eye out for a retiring heskey, Owen, Murphy, Luis Garcia in 3 or 4 seasons time . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBones Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Question to all of you really... I know it's only the demo, but why do you offload the likes of Pennant/Aurelio/Benayoun etc, immediately?? Did you play a few friendlies first to get a taster of their performance (in your game) or not? I only ask because I don't tend to want to rip up the squad immediately. Also why are some of you looking for a new left back when there are two okay ones already, and an excellent young prospect in Insua. YNWA Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott_90 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 im looking at a left back because i always sign bale have done for the last 3 or 4 games lol.. legendary freekicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
foe Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 A wee bit tight in Europe Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Gone Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Question to all of you really...I know it's only the demo, but why do you offload the likes of Pennant/Aurelio/Benayoun etc, immediately?? Did you play a few friendlies first to get a taster of their performance (in your game) or not? I only ask because I don't tend to want to rip up the squad immediately. Also why are some of you looking for a new left back when there are two okay ones already, and an excellent young prospect in Insua. YNWA Pennant, Aurelio, Arbeloa & Kuyt were listed from day one...all can easily be replaced by far better players (remember that Man City are willing to pay silly money for your cast offs). Insua & Plessis Have both done really well for me when I've used them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
lfc7 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Question to all of you really...I know it's only the demo, but why do you offload the likes of Pennant/Aurelio/Benayoun etc, immediately?? Did you play a few friendlies first to get a taster of their performance (in your game) or not? I only ask because I don't tend to want to rip up the squad immediately. Also why are some of you looking for a new left back when there are two okay ones already, and an excellent young prospect in Insua. YNWA I dont think Pennant and Benayoun are any good so get rid ,I keep Aurelio as i think hes a good player Also i like to loan Insua out for a season or 2 as i dont think hes ready for the big step up yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic187 Posted November 8, 2008 Share Posted November 8, 2008 Question to all of you really...I know it's only the demo, but why do you offload the likes of Pennant/Aurelio/Benayoun etc, immediately?? Did you play a few friendlies first to get a taster of their performance (in your game) or not? I only ask because I don't tend to want to rip up the squad immediately. Also why are some of you looking for a new left back when there are two okay ones already, and an excellent young prospect in Insua. YNWA This was why i did it Unbeaten all the way to 31st december. This game's far too easy. Asked the board for more money at the beginning of the game because the £5m they give you is sh*t, so they boosted me from £5m to about £15m.Then i budget adjusted and moved all my excess wages into my transfers, that gave me an extra £5m, So that's £20m already on day 1. Then i never bought a player till the very end of July. And by that time i had sold all these players below. El Zhar - -- Celtic - £3m Plessis - At Madrid - £5m Kuyt - Real Madrid - £15m Aurellio - Man City - £13m Arbeloa - R Madrid - £13m Benayoun - M City - £14m Pennant - Chelsea - £13m Itandje - Catania - - £3m ETC So by the time i'd sold all of these players, not only did i have near £100m in the bank, i also had nearly quartered my wage bill. So i then move all my wages back into my transfer fund yet again in budget adjustment, this boosted me upto about £120m Pretty easy to buy Maicon, Aguero and Pato when you have more than 1 hundred million pounds in the bank. During the time i was selling everyone in July i was also unsettling the 3 players i wanted, so by the time i had the money available they all were ready to join my and contract negotiation was very easy and quick. Current team Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 IIRC, someone mentioned something about possible problems with Finance, when adjusting the wage budget. Well I've had a little look into this. Game 1 - Wage Budget increased from £1.1 million to £1.3 million. Wages being used up to 1.2 million from 1.05 million. Game 2 - Wage budget +wages stay the same. So the main difference between the two games is I'm spending an extra 150k a week on wages. That equates to 600k a month. Looking at the finances this 600k isn't the biggest of the worries. Per month I'm spending £15 million ( lets say around £13 million on game 2 as well). And I'm only getting 8 million back. This means that in game 1, if things keep going like they are, I'll be down £63 million by the end of the season. In game 2 i'll be down by about £ 45 million. Obviously there will be prize money etc coming in at the end of the season, but depending on how much you win, you might creep into the red. So from what I've gathered this is my conclusion: If possible, try and keep the wage budget what it is. If you fund your transfers entirely from the Transfer budget, you should save around £12 million a season, which is an awful lot Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyc44 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Cant believe it just played Arsenal in the 4th round of the league cup at home got 2 pens during normal time Torres took both and missed both the match finished 1-1 and went to pens where Torres took another pen and missed again 3 pen misses in 1 match never had that beforeNew page you should hav keane on ur pens scored 4 out ov 4 for me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyc44 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 i cant understand why loads ov people sell aurellio he great on my save best average in the team and scores alot ov free kicks Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 i cant understand why loads ov people sell aurellio he great on my save best average in the team and scores alot ov free kicks You can quite easily get players of around the same quality for less money. And he sells for a lot. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic187 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 i cant understand why loads ov people sell aurellio he great on my save best average in the team and scores alot ov free kicks Sell Aurellio for £10 - 12m and get Marcelo on loan. Then put that towards Aguero or Benzema or someone. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 benayoun and pennant actually look decent. although benayoun looks better so selling pennant would be better. what should i be looking for? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 benayoun and pennant actually look decent. although benayoun looks better so selling pennant would be better. what should i be looking for? I sold him for £8.5 million, so you should be looking for at least that. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic187 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 I got £14m for Benayoun and £13m for Pennant. So try get rid of them for at least £10m+ and then go buy Benzema, Huntelaar or Pato Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noni. Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Why the hell is Kuyt a natural right winger in the game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticMonkey Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 Why the hell is Kuyt a natural right winger in the game? Because he is a winger now since Rafa transformed him Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopsy101 Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 not a real winger though. he comes inside more and should be a natural striker Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 9, 2008 Author Share Posted November 9, 2008 He's more a striker/winger Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 9, 2008 Share Posted November 9, 2008 IIRC, someone mentioned something about possible problems with Finance, when adjusting the wage budget.Well I've had a little look into this. Game 1 - Wage Budget increased from £1.1 million to £1.3 million. Wages being used up to 1.2 million from 1.05 million. Game 2 - Wage budget +wages stay the same. So the main difference between the two games is I'm spending an extra 150k a week on wages. That equates to 600k a month. Looking at the finances this 600k isn't the biggest of the worries. Per month I'm spending £15 million ( lets say around £13 million on game 2 as well). And I'm only getting 8 million back. This means that in game 1, if things keep going like they are, I'll be down £63 million by the end of the season. In game 2 i'll be down by about £ 45 million. Obviously there will be prize money etc coming in at the end of the season, but depending on how much you win, you might creep into the red. So from what I've gathered this is my conclusion: If possible, try and keep the wage budget what it is. If you fund your transfers entirely from the Transfer budget, you should save around £12 million a season, which is an awful lot I think you're right. I would never risk the Pool just to have a better transfer kitty Here's what I'm proposing! Transfer kitty: 4m -> 15m with board request Out: Pennant 7.5 Benayoun 7.5 Aurelio 10 Arbeloa 10 Total: 35+15=50 In: Ignacio Camacho DM - potential to be as good as Fabregas (too tempting) - 7.5m Davide Santon - potential to be better than Santon - 10m Caceres - 12.5m Arshavin (or equiv.) - 13m Loan Marcelo - future fee Srna - 16m Total = 59m Might adjust what wages I do have to meet that deficit... Or might ship out one more lad. Maybe sell some dead-wood in the reserves. Thoughts? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 has anyone tried to recall some of the players out on loan and then sell them off to raise funds?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kopfan1977 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 First post in this thread here I have started a few games so far but never got further than a month in before i have gerrard and torres both out for 3 months or longer.. so decided that i would start from scratch again. So far this is my dealings Out: Pennant £8mil - blackburn Benayoun £11 - blackburn Aurelio £8mil - spurs Arbeloa £12 mil - man city Kuyt - £17mil - man city Plessis - £2.2mil - hull city also shipped out most of reserves for very little money - nemeth was most at 500k to cardiff Ins: Marcelo - loan no fee paid M. Torres - loan no fee paid Balotelli - loan no fee paid Caceres - loan no fee paid P.Osvaldo - loan no fee paid L.Diarra - £5mil - class M.Fernandez - £8mil M.Owen - £6mil S.Defour - £10mil but worth every penny L.Acosta - £6mil - was transfer listed Anyukov - £10.5mil Team line up Reina - gk Marcelo - lb Anyunkov -rb Agger - cb Carragher -cb Fernandez - lm Gerrard - rm Diarra - cm Mascherano - cm Defour - am Torres - st only part of team i think im a bit light is strikers,fullbacks and centre defence.. but when full game is released i can sort that at end of season Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyc44 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 right this is my team and ins and out ins diarra £500.000 part ex danny murphy £1.4m couldnt help myself(hes good cover for gerrad tho) veloso £12m torje £2.3 cover on right m fernandez £9.25 disapointed so far nihat £ 16 scores some corkers outs benayoun £8.25 blackburnbut should ov waited for more pennant was the part ex for diarra waited for 2 weeks and asked for more cash and got it and more wages and transferred it into transfer money i will be sellin alot more on the real game im just messin around on the demo and as dont know how to put screens up i will just hav to you the league table p w d l f a pts liverpool 9 8 1 0 17 6 25 united 9 7 1 1 16 6 22 arsenal 9 5 4 0 19 5 19 chelsea 9 5 3 1 18 7 18 sorry for the bad league table lol my team so far gk reina rb arbeloa lb aurelio 2nd best stats to gerrard cb carragher cb skrtel/agger rm nihat/torje/gerrard Lm babel/dossena(some people say hes really good but iv not found that .not yet anyway) dm alonso (awesome) cm/am gerrard (say no more) st el nino st keane/nihat/babel scores a few for me subs riera fernandez veloso lucas hyypia masch diarra i play a number ov formations depends who im playin but my fav one is 4-4-2 diamond but im swapping around alot so i get ready for the 14th with the best tactics and training so good luck guys and enjoy any feedback or if you think i a bad manager let me know lol Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyc44 Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 are well my unbeaten run ends away at arsenal 2 v 0 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 10, 2008 Author Share Posted November 10, 2008 I think you're right. I would never risk the Pool just to have a better transfer kittyHere's what I'm proposing! Transfer kitty: 4m -> 15m with board request Out: Pennant 7.5 Benayoun 7.5 Aurelio 10 Arbeloa 10 Total: 35+15=50 In: Ignacio Camacho DM - potential to be as good as Fabregas (too tempting) - 7.5m Davide Santon - potential to be better than Santon - 10m Caceres - 12.5m Arshavin (or equiv.) - 13m Loan Marcelo - future fee Srna - 16m Total = 59m Might adjust what wages I do have to meet that deficit... Or might ship out one more lad. Maybe sell some dead-wood in the reserves. Thoughts? I'm going to do something along those lines. I'm going to buy slightly different players though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 10, 2008 Share Posted November 10, 2008 At the moment I don't have my heart set on any player except Santon & Camacho I'd love to buy someone else other than Arshavin, because I don't really rate him - but I am coming up trumps finding a suitable replacement. He offers a lot down the right hand side. For my CB, I want a world class replacement for Carragher when the King starts getting on a bit - at the moment it's Luiz, Caceres or Fazio. Luiz is the cheapest at 10m, Caceres at 12.25 followed by Fazio for nearly 17m. I _think_ Caceres will turn out the best. Darijo Srna, well... I don't really like him. But I'm just too uninspired by Lassana Diarra's performances to warrant signing him. Though, £5m is a very irresistable price tag. Can anyone make any suggestions for a first-team ready MR/WBR/DR? I know Liverpool needs another world class striker; but I'm thinking if I set my sights on continental finish then I'd have season 2 to procure a really world class forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticMonkey Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 At the moment I don't have my heart set on any player except Santon & CamachoI'd love to buy someone else other than Arshavin, because I don't really rate him - but I am coming up trumps finding a suitable replacement. He offers a lot down the right hand side. For my CB, I want a world class replacement for Carragher when the King starts getting on a bit - at the moment it's Luiz, Caceres or Fazio. Luiz is the cheapest at 10m, Caceres at 12.25 followed by Fazio for nearly 17m. I _think_ Caceres will turn out the best. Darijo Srna, well... I don't really like him. But I'm just too uninspired by Lassana Diarra's performances to warrant signing him. Though, £5m is a very irresistable price tag. Can anyone make any suggestions for a first-team ready MR/WBR/DR? I know Liverpool needs another world class striker; but I'm thinking if I set my sights on continental finish then I'd have season 2 to procure a really world class forward. A.Potenza or M.Zambelli would fit the right back spot perfectly. They are both cheap options and i'm proud to say, my finds Just realised zambelli and potenza arn't on the demo unless your managing in Italy. Looks like you'll have to wait until Friday to have a look at my two "discoveries"! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Will be the first thing I do. Srna at 16m is not cheap, and I'm over budget already. Good find mate Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArcticMonkey Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Theres also Carlos Diogo, whos stats look amazing! He's valued at £3.3m but i'm not sure how much it takes for Zaragoza to settle on a deal. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Gone Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Any of you lads using a 352 formation? I'm doing really well with it, I like being able to pull a player back (if we are under the cosh) or pushing somebody up behind my forwards (if we need a bit more cutting edge up front). Reina Diarra - Carra - Agger Arshavin - Gerrard - Masch - Alonso - Babbel Torres - Huntelaar Diarra isn't really a central defender, but he can become "acomplished" within a few months if you train him and play him in this position, the boy is a monster wherever you play him to be honest, he's done central midfield and right midfield duty for me and still looked awesome...he is one of the best buys you can make IMO. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Staf9 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Diarra seems to be a player eberyone is going to buy due to being bale to get him for 5m and his obvious stats on the game but i just don;t like him as a player IRL with the way he has left a few of his clubs, anyone avoid signing players in the game no matter how good they are cause you don;t like them IRL? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solid Gone Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 anyone avoid signing players in the game no matter how good they are cause you don;t like them IRL? Hell yes, I'd rather play my youth or reserves than any top Man U player...even if they offered me ronaldo, rooney and tevez for five quid each...the same applies to any chavski or everton players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redknapp Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 A.Potenza or M.Zambelli would fit the right back spot perfectly. They are both cheap options and i'm proud to say, my finds Just realised zambelli and potenza arn't on the demo unless your managing in Italy. Looks like you'll have to wait until Friday to have a look at my two "discoveries"! Both have been around for a while especially Potenza. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Edwards Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Save before every game is the best bet.If Torres, Gerrard and MAscherano get injured for 2 months then re load. It's all that can be done because of the idiots at SI not testing their games properly before public release. lol - thats called cheating! what next - if you lose it is the AI cheating so just reload? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Edwards Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 nemeth with 12 finishing!?! :confused: theres a researcher who hasn't done his homework! and there's a poster who posts without thinking .... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Edwards Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 The Liverpool reseacher should hang there head in SHAME rather than making silly little comments come and join the debate in the data forum - you might learn something about how the process works Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Edwards Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 yeh degen is useless, and everyone wants to loan him! ive brought in arshavin, rafinha and diarra (who the day before he agrees to sign tears an acl, and is out for 4 months...great..). cant believe how poor pacheco/nemeth is!! they were going to be my backup strikers.-------------reina-------------- rafinha--carra----agger--aurelio- ----------------alonso---------- ---------gerrard---------------- arshavin-------------------riera- -------keane----torres--------- subs- diarra masch lucas kuyt babel skrtel dossena well that is realistic isn't it as they aren't good enough to be back ups yet! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic187 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 lol - thats called cheating!what next - if you lose it is the AI cheating so just reload? How is that cheating ? Sports Interactive have admitted that the injuries in the game are a horrific bug and everyone agrees that having 6 of your best players injured for 3 months each even before the first game of the season ruins the game. Haha, i suppose you actually play the game with Torres, Gerrard, Mascherano, Reina, Carragher, Keane out for 3 months (thus nearly all of the demo) There's an editor now though that sorts the injuries so i don't have to reload. Lol actually making our games more realistic and correcting Sports Interactives f**k ups is "cheating" in your mind Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dannyc44 Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 yea just beat chelsea 0 v 2 away masch and diarra was superb gerrard on bench as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Any of you lads using a 352 formation? I'm doing really well with it, I like being able to pull a player back (if we are under the cosh) or pushing somebody up behind my forwards (if we need a bit more cutting edge up front). Reina Diarra - Carra - Agger Arshavin - Gerrard - Masch - Alonso - Babbel Torres - Huntelaar Diarra isn't really a central defender, but he can become "acomplished" within a few months if you train him and play him in this position, the boy is a monster wherever you play him to be honest, he's done central midfield and right midfield duty for me and still looked awesome...he is one of the best buys you can make IMO. I'm tempted by 3-5-2. But i think a narrow 4-3-2-1 might be more solid. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 To be honest I don't see the harm in having three at the back, if we have someone solid like Masch protecting them? But he'd have to be completely defensive minded. Stunts going forward, I reckon Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 Also I've noticed that player stats sky-rocket with the very little training I've been giving them! Probably SI's response to players being rubbish. Sort of feels like every player is potential dynamite now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 11, 2008 Author Share Posted November 11, 2008 Also I've noticed that player stats sky-rocket with the very little training I've been giving them! Probably SI's response to players being rubbish.Sort of feels like every player is potential dynamite now Thats good. I hadn't bothered with training on the demo. On the subject of 3-5-2, i think you could have two defensive players in the 5 instead of just 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBones Posted November 11, 2008 Share Posted November 11, 2008 For my CB, I want a world class replacement for Carragher when the King starts getting on a bit - at the moment it's Luiz, Caceres or Fazio. Luiz is the cheapest at 10m, Caceres at 12.25 followed by Fazio for nearly 17m. I _think_ Caceres will turn out the best. IRL I think Agger and Skrtel will be the long term partnership when JC retires or isn't a regular pick. Both are superb and compliment each other perfectly. I aim to see if that works for me in the career that I'll begin on Friday, and I won't be seeking any replacements in the near term. I know FM is a game, and so we can do what we want, but why won't you give Agger or Skrtel the chance to impress??? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
soli Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Pope of Pot, King of Nothing You can give a try to Christian Maggio from Napoli for the right wing. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope of Pot, King of Nothi Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 IRL I think Agger and Skrtel will be the long term partnership when JC retires or isn't a regular pick. Both are superb and compliment each other perfectly.I aim to see if that works for me in the career that I'll begin on Friday, and I won't be seeking any replacements in the near term. I know FM is a game, and so we can do what we want, but why won't you give Agger or Skrtel the chance to impress??? Well, I know they are great players in real life but I look at them on FM and I wonder if their attributes really reflect how good they are. I just can't help feeling that Agger/Skrtel are placeholders while we find a top drawer CB. Those are my thoughts though, and I think they're brilliant in real life (and probably couldn't find a replacement that's any better). I dunno. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeeman27bob Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I think I'm going with you on this one Pope. They are good. But they aren't exceptional. You could get much better. They'd be brilliant backup though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
chronic187 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 They both should have high PA's with them both being 22. I'd say close to 180 with Agger having a higher one. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
real_betis Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 How is everyone managing to sell players for such good money? I'm still getting ripped off :\ Any tips? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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