Blakey VII Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Just finished a whole season with Sunderland using your asymetric 4-1-2-2-1 and have to say it was very good. Scored a lot of different goals although the main assist route was from left back (van Aanholt - highest average rating in league!). The set peices are also good would suggest having 3 or more players back tho rather than the 2 as you can get countered pretty easily. I managed to finish 4th with a below average team and reach the F.A Cup final unfortunately losing to a strong spurs team. Here is a few screenshots I have: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 6, 2017 Author Share Posted January 6, 2017 You were close to winning the PL, just 2 more wins. Did you change the corner set up? if so I can try a run out on a test league. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blakey VII Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 1 hour ago, knap said: You were close to winning the PL, just 2 more wins. Did you change the corner set up? if so I can try a run out on a test league. I know mate defoe got injured for 2 months too so was using anichebe upfront and drew/lost a couple I reckon I would have won if I had him. The only thing I changed on free kicks & corners was moving a player set to go forward to stay back. I didn't get countered once after that and the corners & free kicks still created a lot of chances. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Osmann Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Which tactic will you guys recommend? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Novem9 Posted January 6, 2017 Share Posted January 6, 2017 Play with 442 in Wolfsburg and reserve 4141. After half-season 4st position, game is suit. A lot of players in Wolfsburg have low decisions, workrate etc, hope after winter transferwindow will be better and take medals. Many thanks for your work , Knap! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Valhalla.. Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 Carrying on with my long-term save, I won the title with Internazionale in 2025/26 but immediately resigned when I got a news item saying the Schalke 04 manager had been sacked. Even though I'm a Dortmund fan in the real world, I've kinda fallen in love with Schalke in FM due to winning my first ever Champions League title (since starting playing away back in FM05), and had to go back to rescue them. Naturally once I applied, the board didn't consider any other candidate. It's started very well indeed (note that we've only conceded 2 goals in 14 league games): My total achievements so far in this save, using Asymmetric almost exclusively: Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredda37 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 What tactic do you think I should use with Leeds, dont like Assymetric tac. Any idea ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Valhalla.. Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 @fredda37 - if you're asking me, I honestly wouldn't know. I've tried some of the other formations but never liked the football they produced which is why I've went 10 and a half seasons of using asymmetric, and had great success too. I've honestly built so many of my own tactics in every conceivable formation, as well as tried countless tactics from here and the Steam Workshop, but Knap's asymmetric is so far the only one that has delivered. I love it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
fredda37 Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 @..Valhalla - Thanks. I tried 451 formation and ended up on second place with Leeds and win promotion to Premier League :-) Very good tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hliasp Posted January 9, 2017 Share Posted January 9, 2017 I have great success with assymetric too... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Worick Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Knap what of your tactics do you think it's better for lower league teams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 I've never really noticed any difference with tactics at different levels. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnShepard Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 4231 asymmetric? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpha Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 Used the 3412 IWB tactic with Bournemouth. 1st season I've had much success (finished 5th and won the EFL Cup, qualified for Europa League). 2nd season I brought in some players, but no big changes in my starting XI. But the results in the Premier League have been terrible, while I'm crushing my opponents in the Europa League for fun... I just can't seem to turn it around. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 11, 2017 Author Share Posted January 11, 2017 Update to 3412 IWB tactic. !!!FM17KnapDG343P52IWBP90WHP47CP51P98_51FFCA9D-FD2B-4ACF-8A25-CFC5C0E301D4.fmf May need to mix the formations up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpha Posted January 11, 2017 Share Posted January 11, 2017 I'll give that one a try tonight with Bournemouth :-) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieroncameron Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 do you have a 4-2-3-1 or 4-3-3 tactic you would recommend for a lower BPL side? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 All tactics should work for LL, but IWB tactics may be best for poor sides in a League. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Knap if its possible could u make 4321 ??which works cause mine i tried and havent good results Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Do you mean Oxford xtree or 3cms 2ams? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted January 12, 2017 Share Posted January 12, 2017 Yes mate ...exactly that i mean Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 12, 2017 Author Share Posted January 12, 2017 Oxford uses WMs and there is already a tactic, so I assume 3 CMs and no wide players. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Narrow 4321 beta Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkleppe Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 With the asymetric formation and tactic, what should I use when I face a better team? Counter attack does not seem very good atleast. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
..Valhalla.. Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Into 2027 now and still going strong: League table last year: My manage profile: I've used asymmetric almost entirely through those 11 years Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 Hi Knapp having great success with your paranoid tactic with Forest turned my season around was facing the sack had to pick up 9pts from 5 games and collected 11pts. 3 wins 2 draws 6-2 5-2 4-1 and 2-2 0-0. What do you recommend for training and match tactics Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 Best training is match time. If a long term save, I would recommend Cleon's threads on training. I use Ass Man so Match training changes which is what I would recommend, depending on opposition Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 13, 2017 Author Share Posted January 13, 2017 For a defensive tactic try the TW tactics or some of the changes for get a goal try attacking and much higher tempo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fkleppe Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 What is the prefered training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 13, 2017 Share Posted January 13, 2017 10 hours ago, knap said: Best training is match time. If a long term save, I would recommend Cleon's threads on training. I use Ass Man so Match training changes which is what I would recommend, depending on opposition Cheers i mean this Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 11 hours ago, knap said: For a defensive tactic try the TW tactics or some of the changes for get a goal try attacking and much higher tempo. Will this work with a team like Forest ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 11 hours ago, knap said: Best training is match time. If a long term save, I would recommend Cleon's threads on training. I use Ass Man so Match training changes which is what I would recommend, depending on opposition Can you give me a link to this please Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 Ass Man mid season. Should be in discussion sextion but website is - sisportscentre Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 7 hours ago, knap said: Ass Man mid season. Should be in discussion sextion but website is - sisportscentre Cheers for that picture wise as for the discussion sextion can you point me in the right direction. Ps During the game do you change anything from strategy and style depending on the score at the time cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 14, 2017 Share Posted January 14, 2017 21 hours ago, that\'s life said: Will this work with a team like Forest ? You never answered Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 14, 2017 Author Share Posted January 14, 2017 The only way to find out is to give it a try in some league games. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
simic26 Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Asymetric formation PI please . Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 On 1/14/2017 at 13:16, knap said: Ass Man mid season. Should be in discussion sextion but website is - sisportscentre Cheers for that picture wise as for the discussion sextion can you point me in the right direction. Ps During the game do you change anything from strategy and style depending on the score at the time cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
thats life Posted January 15, 2017 Share Posted January 15, 2017 Promotion secured look at the results even in the final with 10 men well impressed. So start of new season do i make changes to this with 5 new players joining Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 15, 2017 Author Share Posted January 15, 2017 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
andre62 Posted January 16, 2017 Share Posted January 16, 2017 Training? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osgama Posted January 17, 2017 Share Posted January 17, 2017 A tactic to play against bigger teams or to avoid conceding a goal in the last minutes ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 17, 2017 Author Share Posted January 17, 2017 There is a TW tactic in strange Brew. I do not change tactics for bigger teams. You could try the Warpigs tactic tested with West Ham which is a narrow diamond. I leave training to Ass Man. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
osgama Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 Can u send the link please ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Last tactic post 1. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
kieroncameron Posted January 18, 2017 Share Posted January 18, 2017 On 12/01/2017 at 17:25, knap said: All tactics should work for LL, but IWB tactics may be best for poor sides in a League. what does IWB stand for, inside wing backs? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 18, 2017 Author Share Posted January 18, 2017 Correct Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tottijim Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 has anyone else tried 4231 narrow 3 AMs ...i have found very succesfull tactic...knap how your test league went whith the 4231 narrow 3 AMs ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
knap Posted January 19, 2017 Author Share Posted January 19, 2017 I did not finish a complete test season, as a mix and match idea. I always try this formation due to the many seasons I played with the Kimz tactic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
marksmithlfc1234 Posted January 19, 2017 Share Posted January 19, 2017 Kimz Tactic ? what is that ?? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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