SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 We've just announced that FM09 & WWSM09 will this year be available via Steam, as well as standard retail, day and date with the retail release. For those who buy the boxed copy of the game, they will still be able to use Steams services, such as instant patching... http://www.sigames.com/news.php?type=view&article_id=1304 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Italia Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Just a quick question, say for instance you already have a Steam Account, if I used that account with a bouight fm2009, and say I am banned on CS:S will this mean I am banned from playing online on fm2009? A friend of mine got banned on CSS via steam id and he can no longer play any online game that he has through steam, this includes day of defeat source and other games, will this be the same for fm2009? Edit: btw he was banned for downloading gun models, one had an edited data file in it which allowed the gun to shoot at a different rate, VAC banned him thinking he was cheating with it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 Just a quick question, say for instance you already have a Steam Account, if I used that account with a bouight fm2009, and say I am banned on CS:S will this mean I am banned from playing online on fm2009? A friend of mine got banned on CSS via steam id and he can no longer play any online game that he has through steam, this includes day of defeat source and other games, will this be the same for fm2009? I presume that those games servers are being hosted by Steam? FM09's online capabilities, as per previous years, is hosted by one of the people playing, so I doubt that would be an issue. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't understand. Both cost around £30, why would your download instead of purchase it in a box? Or does it allow better online gaming if you download. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
karan316 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Well for people like me sitting in India it might be a better option than ordering it off Amazon and waiting 2 weeks for it to get delivered. Only thing is though that I have both a Mac and a PC (although I play more on the Mac). Will the downloaded version be playable on both platforms? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 It's just choice, Ben - some people prefer digital downloads. Others live in countries where the game is not available, and as long as Steam is available there, will be able to purchase the game without importing. As is said in the press release, you'll still be able to use Steams patching and other services with the boxed release too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 Well for people like me sitting in India it might be a better option than ordering it off Amazon and waiting 2 weeks for it to get delivered.Only thing is though that I have both a Mac and a PC (although I play more on the Mac). Will the downloaded version be playable on both platforms? Steam is PC only, Karan. There will be a Mac digital download option (not through Steam), but it would be a seperate purchase. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ben Jones Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Cheer's Miles for clearing that up. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
qwerty52 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 both are 30 but I just went to order from steam there appeared to be 8 dollars VAT on top. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke2008norwich Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 demo aint out now is it :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
ahmufcwafc Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 demo aint out now is it :s Not yet Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
luke2008norwich Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 kk cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
libertine Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Steam is PC only, Karan. There will be a Mac digital download option (not through Steam), but it would be a seperate purchase. When will this be announced? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 both are 30 but I just went to order from steam there appeared to be 8 dollars VAT on top. Maybe I'm mistaken though. Pricing is set by them, rather than us, although that sounds a bit odd. Will see if I can find out any info on it. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkes53 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 If i order from steam will i'm assuming it will give me FM09 not wwsm or w/e it is? and can any one give me an indication as to how big the file will be? cheers Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geronimo360 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Stroke of luck for me as my DVD drive on my laptop is broken so i can just download the game. How big will the game be in? over a gig? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkes53 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 On the vat issue its 50 dollars + 8.75 dollars = 58.75 dollars which is aproximately 34 pounds Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Davis Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Just a quick question, say for instance you already have a Steam Account, if I used that account with a bouight fm2009, and say I am banned on CS:S will this mean I am banned from playing online on fm2009? A friend of mine got banned on CSS via steam id and he can no longer play any online game that he has through steam, this includes day of defeat source and other games, will this be the same for fm2009?Edit: btw he was banned for downloading gun models, one had an edited data file in it which allowed the gun to shoot at a different rate, VAC banned him thinking he was cheating with it. You will not get banned from playing FM09 on steam. The reason your mate cant get on day of defeat and other games is because there all games made by valve and its his steam id that has got banned, for cheating and using a wallhack. Vac picked this up and banned his Steam ID to any valve made game ie CSS, DOD, TF2 and so on. any none valve game will be ok Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 If i order from steam will i'm assuming it will give me FM09 not wwsm or w/e it is?and can any one give me an indication as to how big the file will be? cheers I would presume that whichever you order is the one that you'd get - there should be seperate ordering thingies for WWSM and FM at a guess. No idea whether Steam is region coded or anything though. As for file size, it'll likely be a few GB. We won't know the final size til we've mastered, but I'd guess at somewhere between 2 & 4GB. On the vat issue its 50 dollars + 8.75 dollars = 58.75 dollars which is aproximately 33 pounds Thanks for clearing that up - they do add VAT afterwards, as that's the way sales happen in the US (it's price + local sales tax) Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Miles, great news about steam, I'm sorely tempted to pre order on there now. Other than that, on the site : http://www.footballmanager.com/index.php?p=pre_order theres a typo where it says "STEM" instead of steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkes53 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Had a quck search of the steam shop for WWSM but can find it So i dont have a clue Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Will normal patching services be available for those of us who prefer not to use Steam? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gonzález Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 What's the deal with online downloading? Do you only get to download it one time? What if you want it on your PC & laptop? What if internet cuts out during download? What if you accidentally wipe it off your harddrive in a few months' time or you get a virus and need to format you computer? Will you still be able to download this again? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 Will normal patching services be available for those of us who prefer not to use Steam? What do you mean by "normal patching services", VonBlade? What's the deal with online downloading? Do you only get to download it one time? What if you want it on your PC & laptop? What if internet cuts out during download? What if you accidentally wipe it off your harddrive in a few months' time or you get a virus and need to format you computer? Will you still be able to download this again? I suggest you have a look at Steams website and FAQ, as it's them that you would be buying from. I've never had a problem re-downloading files from them. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cookie175 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 So basically, you can download the FULL version of the game on the day of release, without the disk? I may do this. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkes53 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Once u buy a file to ur steam account it is there for life no matter how many times you reformat etc you will be able to download it again and if your internet cuts out half way through a download you will be able to resume the download from where every you were before your net cut out. gonna have to stop refreshing this page now Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2BitCharlie Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Its a good idea and would purchase that way as prefer playing through steam as you dont have to worry what the kids have done with the cd thats why i play tf2 so much but the price is too much. today $49.99 is £30 exchange rate without the taxes i can preorder is for £25 from shopto Just looked its $58.76 with taxes which £33.56 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakers Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The ability for boxed versions to be patched by steam is fantastic, well done Miles! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rb Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Had a quck search of the steam shop for WWSM but can find it So i dont have a clue Type in "football manager" Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
gipsy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 What do you mean by "normal patching services", VonBlade? Guess he means will we still be able to get the patch directly via this site, partners sites and/or torrent Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 The ability for boxed versions to be patched by steam is fantastic, well done Miles! I have to give props to Sega Networks and STEAM for making that happen... I agree, it is fantastic. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 Guess he means will we still be able to get the patch directly via this site, partners sites and/or torrent Definitely torrent, and if we can snaffle enough bandwidth, download too. The quickest and easiest way to patch the game will be via STEAM though. Mac patches will have to be available via normal methods anyway, as STEAM isn't Mac... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parkes53 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Type in "football manager" yes and only fm09 comes up NOT wwsm :s Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Am I going wrong somewhere with steam as I can only see a price in dollars while yes I can convert would be nice to see it pounds is there not an option somewhere? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Nine Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 A couple of questions: Do SI get a higher proportion of a sale on Steam than through normal retail? Or is that just for Valve's own games? Will using FM09 with Steam interfere with using 3rd party apps like Genie Scout and fan made add-ons like badge kits etc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sad Git Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Will it be necessary to install Steam if you buy the boxed retail game? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
eaimua Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Will using FM09 with Steam interfere with using 3rd party apps like Genie Scout and fan made add-ons like badge kits etc? This is very important. I'd like a clarification from SI too. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
SI Staff Miles Jacobson Posted October 9, 2008 Author SI Staff Share Posted October 9, 2008 Am I going wrong somewhere with steam as I can only see a price in dollars while yes I can convert would be nice to see it pounds is there not an option somewhere? Steam prices are only in $'s. A couple of questions: Do SI get a higher proportion of a sale on Steam than through normal retail? Or is that just for Valve's own games? Will using FM09 with Steam interfere with using 3rd party apps like Genie Scout and fan made add-ons like badge kits etc? 1) Steam buy the game from Sega at a price, and set their price off the back of that, the same way as any other retailer would do. 2) It would be down to the 3rd party app makes to make the game compatible, in the same way that they'll have to do work to make them compatible with FM09. We do not provide tech support for those apps, the people who make them would offer that. Will it be necessary to install Steam if you buy the boxed retail game? No, but patching and getting updates will be a lot quicker if you do. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
rsk360 Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 cool this is great news any news on when the blogs are out? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Number Nine Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 2) It would be down to the 3rd party app makes to make the game compatible, in the same way that they'll have to do work to make them compatible with FM09. We do not provide tech support for those apps, the people who make them would offer that. I'm thinking more in terms of if Steam will obfuscate or otherwise restrict access and modification to the game files, or will the installation look just the same as from a disc? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anth Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I'd recommend for people to wait as far as Steam goes, the price is obscene at the moment for a digital download, pretty sure Gameplay will be cheaper than Steam come near the release date. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonBlade Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 What do you mean by "normal patching services", VonBlade? Erm. You know, like it's always been. Download a patch from a site or via the SI torrents. Apply it to the game. Wasn't too sure how I managed to inject some ambiguity into my post, but apologies for that. Perhaps my acerbic nature leads people to assume I'm being obstreperous when I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PutzMan Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Good news for Windows users! I may just buy it via Steam if I still used Windows - I'm now a Mac user About the demo though, if it's being distributed via Steam, how will Mac users get their hands on it? Or will that be another download? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
anth Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Erm. You know, like it's always been. Download a patch from a site or via the SI torrents. Apply it to the game. Wasn't too sure how I managed to inject some ambiguity into my post, but apologies for that. Perhaps my acerbic nature leads people to assume I'm being obstreperous when I'm not. I don't think I have ever seen before such a shocking grasp of grammar in one post. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dudester Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Thanks Miles I will stick to my boxed pre order then and just apply it to steam. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuDbuD Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Great news. Debating what to do. Might just get it on steam so I don't have to worry about losing the disk! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jags4ever Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Awesome Being the lazy bastard that I am I have purchased on Steam. TBH there is no need for a box unless you specifially want one to sit on yer desk while you play. Digital distibution is the way forward for everything IMO. Also makes its slightly harder for the pirates to get their hands on it as well Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo_dk Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 If i play FM09 through Steam, is it saving my save games locally? Maybe a stupid question, but i will be absolute sure Anyway, if not, as it probably is, is there anyone who know a good way to sync saved games between a Vista and a XP? Please pm me then.. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Perry Neal Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I don't think I have ever seen before such a shocking grasp of grammar in one post. Was that really necessary? And shouldn't it be '...ever before seen...'? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
nirsilgi Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Excellent!!!!!! Finally no no-cd patches!!!! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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