pmoli12 Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 Hello people, I was just wondering about the PPM "Play with his back to the goal", did someone ever used it for another purpose than a to play with a Target Man? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I have it for all my lone forwards or DLF's. It's the best PPM on the game imo. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 It's incredibly useful for link-up play and bringing others into the game. I would try to get it on most strikers who play lone roles. Trequartistas and DLFs also have their uses in a 2-man system up top with this sort of PPM. I don't have a great deal of experience with the PPM but I understand how good it could be in theory. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoli12 Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 I taught it to Lukaku, and it worked well, but I was wondering. What are you finding so interesting in this PPM? I assume it only works for towering strikers and talk guys? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
RTHerringbone Posted March 28, 2014 Share Posted March 28, 2014 I taught it to Lukaku, and it worked well, but I was wondering. What are you finding so interesting in this PPM? I assume it only works for towering strikers and talk guys? Anyone who receives the ball to his feet in a lone striker Role (typically Support Duty) benefits from this PPM. It has nothing at all to do with physicality in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
pmoli12 Posted March 28, 2014 Author Share Posted March 28, 2014 Ooh okay, always thought it was for Target Men. And what is the difference between this one and "Come Deep to Grg the Ball" ? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 A player who comes deep will look to get as involved in play as possible, trying to play through others and run at defences. A player with his back to goal will stay higher up the pitch and "bounce" passes off to other players - spraying passes but typically sidewards and backwards in order to bring others in play. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 An example of this - Olivier Giroud stays high and plays with his back to goal, "bouncing" passes between teammates. A player who "comes deep" would be Rooney, who moves away from the defenders to interact with play in a deeper position. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Domus Clamantium Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 One of my strikers has both Comes Deep and Back To Goal. Will this mean he comes towards the ball when the ball gets passed to him whilst his back is to the goal and defender behind him? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
llama3 Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 It means he will use his decision making on what to use, and when. Sometimes it will combine. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Hook Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've used this, but only on players who I don't really want/need scoring goals. I've found that with this PPM, they don't turn around and get into the play as a shooter very often. Maybe my experiences are different from others, though. Do you guys find it inhibits players tendencies to shoot? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Los_Culés Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've used this, but only on players who I don't really want/need scoring goals. I've found that with this PPM, they don't turn around and get into the play as a shooter very often. Maybe my experiences are different from others, though. Do you guys find it inhibits players tendencies to shoot? I have found that it inhibits a player to make forward runs behind the defence so this player is less likely to be at the end of the moves. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kick Wilstra Posted March 29, 2014 Share Posted March 29, 2014 I've used this, but only on players who I don't really want/need scoring goals. I've found that with this PPM, they don't turn around and get into the play as a shooter very often. Maybe my experiences are different from others, though. Do you guys find it inhibits players tendencies to shoot? I don't have this experience. Gillardino has "Plays With His Back To Goal" and he made plenty of forward runs and was regularly shooting at goal. He scored 18 and 16 goals in the 2 seasons before he lost his place as first choice because age was catching up with him. I have found that it inhibits a player to make forward runs behind the defence so this player is less likely to be at the end of the moves. This preferred move fits very well in a possession based system that aims to take the play to the opponents side of the pitch, and expect your centre forward to actively participate in the passing game. In such a system there's won't be much space behind the defence, but as your most forward man he will be playing near the oppositions goalalready, and as such still be the end point of attacking moves on a regular basis. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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