Johnleegriffin Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 why is it totally impossible to beat teams like Man United, Chelsea, Man City and Arsenal away? I have just started my save as Liverpool and have won every preseason match. First game of the season is at old traford playing Man United. I play a full defencive system using all the information and knowlege from this site, i get beat, they play like brasil played in the 60s and 70s, so i rage quit and start the match again, some people might think this is cheating but i restart the game each time because i want to figure out how to beat them or at least get a draw. Is it really possible to beat them or do i have to just loose and carry on. I have tried a defensive system, counter system and even tried a balls out all attacking system, yet still get beat. I am not going to continue until i beat them at their own game, if its at all possible. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnleegriffin Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 i fear for my computers' safety. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnleegriffin Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 and my sanity Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrazT Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 What you as manager do is critical to the end result and these actions are: Last game team talk Team training between matches Match preparation training Pre-game press conference Team selection Team formation Team and player instructions Team mentality Opposition instructions Pre-game team talk Players individual pre-game talk In game tactical changes Substitutions Then you start the game, so if you have reloaded without going back to the start of this list, the the game calculation will be similar but probably not identical. You have not given nearly enough detail for others to help, so read the forum guidelines and give more details if you want help Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Also remember, they're top teams. At home. They will be difficult to beat. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
herne79 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Nobody can tell you unless you tell us what you're doing. http://community.sigames.com/showthread.php/327822-Asking-For-Help-PLEASE-READ-THIS Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEEMOD Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Nothing is impossible my friend! If I can somehow take Ascoli to the top of Serie B with a team made up 70% of loans you should be beating anyone with Liverpool! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnleegriffin Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 Details on my tactics are on here, any advice welcome. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Alex FM Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Well... a mediocre team shouldn't beat top teams... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnleegriffin Posted June 23, 2016 Author Share Posted June 23, 2016 thats what i mean. so i should just loose and get on with it. playing the game would be pointless then. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEEMOD Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why not download a few tactics just to get ideas then tweak? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HUNT3R Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Your right hand side looks quite open, doesn't it? Then there's the DCL who will give possession away by hoofing the ball, being a limited defender, which is a strange choice considering you want to play out of defence. I'd also be quite interested to hear why you've chosen "look for overlap" when you already will have overlaps even without it anyway? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
2calvin Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 What you as manager do is critical to the end result and these actions are:Last game team talk Team training between matches Match preparation training Pre-game press conference Team selection Team formation Team and player instructions Team mentality Opposition instructions Pre-game team talk Players individual pre-game talk In game tactical changes Substitutions Then you start the game, so if you have reloaded without going back to the start of this list, the the game calculation will be similar but probably not identical. You have not given nearly enough detail for others to help, so read the forum guidelines and give more details if you want help No no no no no! It's ALL to do with tactics on the day. Anyone who has tried one of these reload exercises will tell you that. People just like to come up with a 'check list' to make this simple game more complicated and sophisticated Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Svenc Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Are you on 2015 or 2016? On 2015 the likelyhood of getting some was harder, on 2016 they leave so much space for through ball opportunity (which is also taken more readily) that to me this seems easier actually. Very likely also amongst the reason that Guardiola drops that many points so often in the BL despite his hugely dominating squad. Not sure to which extents exactly d-line behavior was tweaked in the final third as well should the manager insist on it but I think the d-line was said to be one of the factors in the cross to the far post things. both the goals at Old Trafford Love the 2nd one, this is how an attacking corner was covered at 0-0.... Gift accepted. Whilst this is at home it's the same thing. That said wouldn't keep on reloading unless you identify an issue it's random plus unless you're on FM Touch, making big changes rubs off on tactically gelling just as well. Though the match has to be kicked off and that's what happens every time anew, the starting conditions have been set. But as this is the tactics forum.... Actually remember somebody uploading an away tie away to Chelski from last year's with Arsenal, claiming it to be unwinnable. It wasn't but it was always going to be tough because, well Hazard, the slight home bias which is real (and should be) plus in this case the curious case of Frankie de Boer as their then gaffer who would switch to a fully-on 3 central forward tactics at HT should he trail behind at that point. This was tough to keep at bay as is, but if it consisted of Hazard, et all, tough to contain. One of the most curious reload scenarios ever, as if you had managed to take the lead early, things got harder in a way as if you would have done so later on, as that switch didn't come. Additionally on occasion he would bring on a guy at centre back who was comparably hopeless in the air for that level (jumping reach etc. of below 8) which then could be borderline exploited. However that also didn't always come. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
shirajzl Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Svenc, how many times have you mentioned AI Guardiola in the last month? I swear, no matter what's the subject at hand, somehow you always end up talking how overly aggressive AI Guardiola is. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
LEEMOD Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 I just use one tactic, won the league with Ascoli, people who say one tactic does not work are just lying Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
summatsupeer Posted June 24, 2016 Share Posted June 24, 2016 Details on my tactics are on here, any advice welcome. Just looking at the image in the linked topic makes me think you will be overly reliant on your FB's. Your playing narrower which will reduce the space for them and there's not many other consistent runners, the CF-S will make some as will the W-S, but the rest are playmakers or CM-D so will be positioned deeper and make less runs as they want the ball to feet. Do you have much presence in the box? I'm wondering if less playmakers and/or dropping the look for overlap would make your attack a little more unpredictable with different angles of attack? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wells Posted June 25, 2016 Share Posted June 25, 2016 Impossible really? I have beaten Arsenal 0-5 and Man Utd 0-4 with Newcastle. So It has to do with your tactics, and you have much better team than I used. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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