HL7 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I've uploaded a pkm of a champions league match I had with Shakthar (i'm Inter) where I lost 2-1. Now in the 90th minute I had a low cross into the box and Ibrahimovic tapped in to make it 2-2 only for it to be disallowed. I checked the replay and, to me anyway, it shows Ibrahimovic being in front of the last defender but behind the ball when it's played. Now I know FM referees sometimes get it horribly wrong, but when I complained to the press after the game I got a warning as the goal was "clearly offside". Perhaps i'm wrong but i'd appreciate it if someone else could take a look at it Match Here! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmaniacuk Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Im not going to download it as im at work, (i really should install FM09 here though) anyho, is the player who crossed the ball behind or inline with the keeper, thats offside if it is Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL7 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Keeper was on (or very close to) his line, my winger was roughly in line with the 6 yard box. EDIT: And yes you should install FM at work Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evilmaniacuk Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 and was the cross blatently backwards or could there have been some scope for crossing it directly across....If not then I guess it's one of those decisions that referee's make sometimes. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looks offside to me Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
hilton210916 Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yeh that's just offside blame Zlatan not one player near him and he still cocks up disgraceful. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhroX Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looks offside to me Yeah, looks offside. Poor play by the striker. He can see exactly where the defender is and he's got time and space to position himself properly, yet he gets too far forward. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
jack_man Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Yep, offside IMO Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenn Wakeford Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looks offside, hard to tell in dafuge's screenshot due to the camera angle. Damn linesman! Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looks offside, hard to tell in dafuge's screenshot due to the camera angle. Damn linesman! Unfortunately that was the best angle, the camera wasn't in line with the ball on the elevated view which made it look onside. Was that the camera angle that the match was originally viewed in? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pompeyboyz Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I got a stright rule against my monitor at work and it is defo offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
wyrley_saddler Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 yep. definately offside Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 From the screenshot it looks likely to be offside. However, as the ball has already been played, and a still screenshot gives no idea about how fast (if at all) the scorer was moving, there's still a possibility that the goal scorer could have been just on when the ball was played in my opinion. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
dafuge Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 From the screenshot it looks likely to be offside. However, as the ball has already been played, and a still screenshot gives no idea about how fast (if at all) the scorer was moving, there's still a possibility that the goal scorer could have been just on when the ball was played in my opinion. The split second before the ball was played There's no doubt he's ahead of the defender but he's pretty close to being in line with the ball. I still think he's offside though, there's no way he's behind the ball. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Law_Man Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 The split second before the ball was playedThere's no doubt he's ahead of the defender but he's pretty close to being in line with the ball. I still think he's offside though, there's no way he's behind the ball. Looks clearly offside to me there. NB am I right in thinking you don't actually have to be behind the ball/the ball go backwards, as long as the ball doesn't go forwards? So that being level (i.e. if the ball goes in a dead straight horizontal line between passer and scorer in the screenshot) is enough to be on side? That's certainly the way it seems to be played in the Prem. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD nawrat Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 I haven't looked at it, but from people are saying, I'm slightly confused. I was lead to believe that as long as Ibrahimovic was to be behind the passer, he would be onside. No matter the direction of the ball, as long as ZI is behind the assister, isn't he on? Anyway, that's what I thought. Edit: Just looked. He's offside anyway, no matter where the assister is standing... Well, in the screenshots anyway... Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andrew_ Posted December 22, 2008 Share Posted December 22, 2008 Looks level with the ball in the second pic, tbh. No daylight there so benefit of the doubt should go to the striker. Then again linesman always get that wrong Edit: Maybe just off seeing it again and using the make shift lovefilm 360 case as a ruler Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
HL7 Posted December 22, 2008 Author Share Posted December 22, 2008 Sorry, been away all afternoon, the match was played in the default camera and not the one in dafuges screenshot. Using a ruler to determine is brilliant and shows just how close it is. Perhaps i'm biased but I still believe he's onside and will fight it to the death Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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