seagull84 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Having built up a squad of good passing and dribbling centre backs I got frustrated with them never breaking forward enough to support an attack. Started playing one centre back (ball playing cover) with my other 2 cbs as DM (ball winner defends) in front of him and it's working a treat so far. i always play with my two wingers at wing back to get them back to defend. So essentially a 1 - 4 - 3 -2 . Get some beautiful familiarity lines in all of that too anyone else gone 1 or even 0 traditional defenders and had success? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadertsar Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) I too would love to make old school WM formation to work. But it just doesn't work in ME. You going to get ripped apart. Edited November 23, 2019 by crusadertsar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frukox Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, seagull84 said: Having built up a squad of good passing and dribbling centre backs I got frustrated with them never breaking forward enough to support an attack. Started playing one centre back (ball playing cover) with my other 2 cbs as DM (ball winner defends) in front of him and it's working a treat so far. i always play with my two wingers at wing back to get them back to defend. So essentially a 1 - 4 - 3 -2 . Get some beautiful familiarity lines in all of that too anyone else gone 1 or even 0 traditional defenders and had success? 7 minutes ago, crusadertsar said: I too would love to make old school WM formation to work. But it just doesn't work in ME. You going to get ripped apart. As far as I remember @Cleon made his side capable with a WM formation and that was a very insightful thread. You can take a look at that. Edited November 23, 2019 by frukox Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadertsar Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, frukox said: As far as I remember @Cleon made his side capable with a WM formation and that was a very insightful thread. You can take a look at that. Nice will have a read! But he used only one CB? Edited November 23, 2019 by crusadertsar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
frukox Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 minute ago, crusadertsar said: Nice will have a read? But he used only one CB? Yes one CB two HBs but evolved into an ANC and a HB in the end. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 1 hour ago, crusadertsar said: Nice will have a read! But he used only one CB? The W-M is only 1 centreback. Anything else and it's not a w-m. Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadertsar Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 (edited) 22 minutes ago, Cleon said: The W-M is only 1 centreback. Anything else and it's not a w-m. True i just figured that any wm tactic with football manager would not use one cd only. Just because of gamey FM me reasons. I remember looking for some years ago and everyone was saying how it was impossible. I'll look into your thread now. Two half backs and cd is exactly what I was thinking of. Excited to try something similar in fm20. Welcome back btw! I thought you were gone Edited November 23, 2019 by crusadertsar Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
seagull84 Posted November 23, 2019 Author Share Posted November 23, 2019 That's what I've been using and doing very well.... enjoying how it works and the football I see with it 2 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marabak Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 To my eyes, it kind of looks like a usual back 4 (with effectively both CB on stopper) with a sweeper behind them, just with an extremely high line. How are offsides managed? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cleon Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 20 hours ago, crusadertsar said: True i just figured that any wm tactic with football manager would not use one cd only. Just because of gamey FM me reasons. I remember looking for some years ago and everyone was saying how it was impossible. I'll look into your thread now. Two half backs and cd is exactly what I was thinking of. Excited to try something similar in fm20. Welcome back btw! I thought you were gone Really? I think myself and many others have posted about it every single year since about FM05. There's always a discussion on it every year. 1 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusadertsar Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 10 minutes ago, Cleon said: Really? I think myself and many others have posted about it every single year since about FM05. There's always a discussion on it every year. Now that I'm looking through the threads I can see that you are right. I haven't been around here for a long time I guess. But anyway thanks for the inspiration. Just started a save with Benfica testing my own WM. Will be reporting on it in the future 😃 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falahk Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 Played like this on fm14, my take on a Cruijff diamond, very tempted to recreate it on fm20, thought I'm also toying with the idea of doing a Chris Wilder tactic Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tetsuro P12 Posted December 12, 2019 Share Posted December 12, 2019 (edited) I don't understand why you want your DC to attack, but the Libero (A) does exactly that. I also have seen that DLP sometimes go ahead. I would not risk my defence for a DC sortie, anyway, it's the easiest way to be countered with a long pass. Edited December 12, 2019 by Tetsuro P12 Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
FMunderachiever Posted December 14, 2019 Share Posted December 14, 2019 On 23/11/2019 at 19:25, seagull84 said: That's what I've been using and doing very well.... enjoying how it works and the football I see with it Would your centreback not just play everyone onside? Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeff P Posted December 19, 2019 Share Posted December 19, 2019 Hi Cleon I justed wanted to take the time to thank you for all your posts and answers to questions I have had over the years. Your approach to get us to think about what we are doing is like teaching someone how to fish rather than than just giving away a fish (tactic in this case). I constantly reread your stuff and I never fail to find something new that I missed. This is my 3rd year of playing FM and I can now adjust to the teams and players I am managing. I know you have recently cut back on your posting but it is good to see you are not "gone for good" as that would be a BIG loss for all of the FM world. Jeff Link to post Share on other sites More sharing options...
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