New Laptop/PC Advice -Please Read the Opening Post

[Gee_Simpson]

I'm guessing for optimum performance a high end desktop will always be better than a high end laptop right? I'm looking at desktops with the 8700k in it but I can't find any under £1000. That's probably overkill for mostly FM. I currently have a Dell XPS 8500 which has an Intel i7 3770, it's around 6 years old. I bought that at the time just for FM too so you could say that it was overkill back then as well. My budget would be £1000 for a Desktop or Laptop, I could go higher if needed. It will mostly be for home use.

Dunno if I'm better off just getting the MSI Laptop posted on here, the one at £849 https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gl73-8rd-core-i7-8750h-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-150ti-17.3-inch-9s7-17c612-043/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=sOwnqMp1L_dm&pcrid=293734120249&product=9S7-17C612-043&pgrid=58524942203&ptaid=pla-467630036067&gclid=CjwKCAiA0ajgBRA4EiwA9gFOR0r9q6ttSt6PxKoTNf-t9HQSI85-3BibmPIRJPFoq-VKkuVD6Ay_SRoCooIQAvD_BwE 

I'm looking to buy one that will last me a good 5-6 years like my current desktop has, so maybe overkill is necessary for that? I actually haven't played FM since FM17 and that ran fine on my PC. Maybe I won't need to upgrade at all. I'll have to check and see how it handles FM19 with around a 100k database.

Still, your recommendation would be welcome 

Edited December 8, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[Ross Ingersoll]

One last question because im ordering the upgraded version this weekend.   I decided to buy a bigger ssd and it says its a 256GB M.2 SSD so will this one work in it? 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07822Z77M/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

[JordanMilly]

2 hours ago, Ross Ingersoll said:

One last question because im ordering the upgraded version this weekend.   I decided to buy a bigger ssd and it says its a 256GB M.2 SSD so will this one work in it? 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07822Z77M/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

According to this video, yes. It shows you how to install it too.

 

[Smurf]

6 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

I'm guessing for optimum performance a high end desktop will always be better than a high end laptop right? I'm looking at desktops with the 8700k in it but I can't find any under £1000. That's probably overkill for mostly FM. I currently have a Dell XPS 8500 which has an Intel i7 3770, it's around 6 years old. I bought that at the time just for FM too so you could say that it was overkill back then as well. My budget would be £1000 for a Desktop or Laptop, I could go higher if needed. It will mostly be for home use.

Dunno if I'm better off just getting the MSI Laptop posted on here, the one at £849 https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/msi-gl73-8rd-core-i7-8750h-8gb-1tb-128gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-150ti-17.3-inch-9s7-17c612-043/version.asp?refsource=LDadwords&refsource=ldadwords&mkwid=sOwnqMp1L_dm&pcrid=293734120249&product=9S7-17C612-043&pgrid=58524942203&ptaid=pla-467630036067&gclid=CjwKCAiA0ajgBRA4EiwA9gFOR0r9q6ttSt6PxKoTNf-t9HQSI85-3BibmPIRJPFoq-VKkuVD6Ay_SRoCooIQAvD_BwE 

I'm looking to buy one that will last me a good 5-6 years like my current desktop has, so maybe overkill is necessary for that? I actually haven't played FM since FM17 and that ran fine on my PC. Maybe I won't need to upgrade at all. I'll have to check and see how it handles FM19 with around a 100k database.

Still, your recommendation would be welcome 

MSI looks really good

Here's a PC build if you want to take a look - you'll need to have a monitor as it's not included.

The thing about this is you can upgrade the parts like graphics card etc at a later date. For FM the i5 8600k would be excellent.

Case
PCS GENESIS G1B CASE + SD CARD READER
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-8600K (3.6 GHz) 9 MB Cache

Get Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 & More w/ select Intel CPUs!

Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1^st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3400MB/s R | 2500MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price £966.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/MUUEMh8p2s/

5 hours ago, Ross Ingersoll said:

One last question because im ordering the upgraded version this weekend.   I decided to buy a bigger ssd and it says its a 256GB M.2 SSD so will this one work in it? 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B07822Z77M/ref=ox_sc_act_image_1_1_1?smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER&psc=1

I honestly don't know.

Edited December 8, 2018 by Smurf
Forgot to answer one quoted query.

[Gee_Simpson]

49 minutes ago, Smurf said:

MSI looks really good

Here's a PC build if you want to take a look - you'll need to have a monitor as it's not included.

The thing about this is you can upgrade the parts like graphics card etc at a later date. For FM the i5 8600k would be excellent.

Case
PCS GENESIS G1B CASE + SD CARD READER
Processor (CPU)
Intel® Core™ i5 Six Core Processor i5-8600K (3.6 GHz) 9 MB Cache

Get Call of Duty: Black Ops 4 & More w/ select Intel CPUs!

Motherboard
ASUS® TUF Z390-PLUS GAMING: ATX, LGA1151, USB 3.1, SATA 6GBs - RGB Ready
Memory (RAM)
8GB Corsair VENGEANCE DDR4 2666MHz (2 x 4GB)
Graphics Card
4GB NVIDIA GEFORCE GTX 1050 Ti - DVI, HDMI, DP
1^st Storage Drive
NOT REQUIRED
1^st M.2 SSD Drive
500GB WD Black™ M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD (up to 3400MB/s R | 2500MB/s W)
DVD/BLU-RAY Drive
NOT REQUIRED
Power Supply
CORSAIR 350W VS SERIES™ VS-350 POWER SUPPLY
Power Cable
1 x 1 Metre UK Power Cable (Kettle Lead)
Processor Cooling
INTEL STANDARD CPU COOLER
Thermal Paste
COOLER MASTER MASTERGEL MAKER THERMAL COMPOUND
Sound Card
ONBOARD 6 CHANNEL (5.1) HIGH DEF AUDIO (AS STANDARD)
Wireless/Wired Networking
WIRELESS 802.11N 300Mbps/2.4GHz PCI-E CARD
USB/Thunderbolt Options
MIN. 2 x USB 3.0 & 2 x USB 2.0 PORTS @ BACK PANEL + MIN. 2 FRONT PORTS
Operating System
Genuine Windows 10 Home 64 Bit - inc. Single Licence
Operating System Language
United Kingdom - English Language
Windows Recovery Media
Windows 10 Multi-Language Recovery Image - Unlimited Downloads from Online Account
Office Software
FREE 30 Day Trial of Microsoft® Office® 365 (Operating System Required)
Anti-Virus
BullGuard™ Internet Security - Free 90 Day License inc. Gamer Mode
Browser
Microsoft® Edge (Windows 10 Only)
Warranty
3 Year Standard Warranty (1 Month Collect & Return, 1 Year Parts, 3 Year Labour)
Delivery
STANDARD INSURED DELIVERY TO UK MAINLAND (MON-FRI)
Build Time
Standard Build - Approximately 6 to 8 working days
Quantity
1

Price £966.00 including VAT and Delivery

Unique URL to re-configure : https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/saved-configurations/intel-z370-pc/MUUEMh8p2s/

Cheers mate. I reckon I'll just go for a desktop again then.

That looks a good build, I'll definitely consider it. I'm also considering building my own but not sure how hard/easy it is? Is PC Part Picker the best site to use for building one? If the price difference isn't much for near identical builds then I would rather it just get put together for me by one of those sites that do custom builds.

Edited December 8, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[Smurf]

30 minutes ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Cheers mate. I reckon I'll just go for a desktop again then.

That looks a good build, I'll definitely consider it. I'm also considering building my own but not sure how hard/easy it is? Is PC Part Picker the best site to use for building one? If the price difference isn't much for near identical builds then I would rather it just get put together for me by one of those sites that do custom builds.

PC Specialist are custom built, you're paying a bit more but you do have it custom built by an expert. 

There's a few, parts picker, scan.co.uk, overclockers, etc. 

Nothing wrong with the laptop you picked for FM either.

[Gee_Simpson]

8 hours ago, Smurf said:

PC Specialist are custom built, you're paying a bit more but you do have it custom built by an expert. 

There's a few, parts picker, scan.co.uk, overclockers, etc. 

Nothing wrong with the laptop you picked for FM either.

Cheers mate. I'm wondering if it's worth going for the i7 8700k over the i5 8600k? Or even the new i7 9700k / i5 9600k?

Edited December 8, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Cheers mate. I'm wondering if it's worth going for the i7 8700k over the i5 8600k? Or even the new i7 9700k / i5 9600k?

For FM it's still largely single core 

Here's the list of the fastest single cores. 

https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

I'd aim for the top ones. 

 

[Ross Ingersoll]

Thanks @JordanMillward_1 and @Smurf. Ordered my new laptop , i did upgrade the ram to 16 gb and the ssd to the 1 tb.  Thanks for the advice 

[nastymiller]

On 30/11/2018 at 10:21, Smurf said:

Best you could probably do - https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/X540UA-DM564R-Asus-VivoBook-15-X540UA-DM564R_2366605.html 

As per opening post, you would need to curtail your expectations for leagues loaded/database size etc - and in graphics detail level.

I can't see anything else - not even in refurb.

@Smurf I can also get an extra 10% off this through work (some e-mail landed Friday) is this any good https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-amd-ryzen-3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-black-10180974-pdt.html ?

[gechal]

There's no way of getting a Mac book air cheaper brand new than normal? All prices seem standard across the board

[mayney]

Hello, I'm looking at getting a tablet or small compact laptop/notebook to run full version of FM19.  I've read on previous posts that the surface pro will run it ok. Is there anything of similar size that will run the game well??

For my job I have to fly alot which is why I'm after something compact. 

I normally only use the English leagues and run a medium size database. 3d match engine is a must. 

My price range would be £700 and under. 

Any help would be massively appreciated as I'm not great with computer specs etc. 

This would purely be used for football manager and nothing else. 

Thanks alot

Edited December 10, 2018 by mayney

[Smurf]

3 hours ago, nastymiller said:

@Smurf I can also get an extra 10% off this through work (some e-mail landed Friday) is this any good https://www.currys.co.uk/gbuk/computing/laptops/laptops/hp-14-amd-ryzen-3-laptop-128-gb-ssd-black-10180974-pdt.html ?

Would not recommend

1 hour ago, gechal said:

There's no way of getting a Mac book air cheaper brand new than normal? All prices seem standard across the board

Only way I know is through the refurb store

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/refurbished/mac

 

39 minutes ago, mayney said:

Hello, I'm looking at getting a tablet or small compact laptop/notebook to run full version of FM19.  I've read on previous posts that the surface pro will run it ok. Is there anything of similar size that will run the game well??

For my job I have to fly alot which is why I'm after something compact. 

I normally only use the English leagues and run a medium size database. 3d match engine is a must. 

My price range would be £700 and under. 

Any help would be massively appreciated as I'm not great with computer specs etc. 

This would purely be used for football manager and nothing else. 

Thanks alot

Best I can see with light weight/long battery/ and not too bad for FM https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5ET23EAABU-HP-Pavilion-x360-14-cd1000na_2405978.html

It has a graphics card but it's not the best, and 3D matches would be best on low settings - when you go small form with these size laptops they are generally harder to get good graphics card unless you really up your budget. 

Overall not bad.

[zlatanera]

Bit of a stupid, only half-relevant question here but didn't seem worth making a new thread for.

Pending a trip to the Apple Store, I may no longer have a fully functioning Mac. I bought all my FMs online, either through Steam directly or in the case of FM19 I bought a steam key online. 

If I switch to Windows do I simply have to redone load Steam, or do I need to buy the game again?

[Smurf]

49 minutes ago, zlatanera said:

Bit of a stupid, only half-relevant question here but didn't seem worth making a new thread for.

Pending a trip to the Apple Store, I may no longer have a fully functioning Mac. I bought all my FMs online, either through Steam directly or in the case of FM19 I bought a steam key online. 

If I switch to Windows do I simply have to redone load Steam, or do I need to buy the game again?

You can play on any platform through your Steam account. Login, and download. 

[Smurf]

50 minutes ago, zlatanera said:

Bit of a stupid, only half-relevant question here but didn't seem worth making a new thread for.

Pending a trip to the Apple Store, I may no longer have a fully functioning Mac. I bought all my FMs online, either through Steam directly or in the case of FM19 I bought a steam key online. 

If I switch to Windows do I simply have to redone load Steam, or do I need to buy the game again?

 

Just now, Smurf said:

You can play on any platform through your Steam account. Login, and download. 

In terms of your playing games - you can back them up to a disk/usb or to the cloud and you can play them cross platform too.

[mayney]

14 hours ago, Smurf said:

Would not recommend

Only way I know is through the refurb store

https://www.apple.com/uk/shop/refurbished/mac

 

Best I can see with light weight/long battery/ and not too bad for FM https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/5ET23EAABU-HP-Pavilion-x360-14-cd1000na_2405978.html

It has a graphics card but it's not the best, and 3D matches would be best on low settings - when you go small form with these size laptops they are generally harder to get good graphics card unless you really up your budget. 

Overall not bad.

Thanks very much smurf, 

Any tablet you would recommend such as the surface pro or something similar?  I've seen on some threads that a Windows tablet could be used? 

Thanks in advance

[Smurf]

7 hours ago, mayney said:

Thanks very much smurf, 

Any tablet you would recommend such as the surface pro or something similar?  I've seen on some threads that a Windows tablet could be used? 

Thanks in advance

Again, tablets like Surface pro are much overpriced for what's under the hood. 

I wouldn't recommend a tablet like the Surface Pro to play football manager. You can play on them - but they are expensive, and you'd be much better putting your money into a high end laptop for FM.

What is your actual budget? Is it £1,200?

 

[Everton1878]

Hi looking for your help as I'm not very tech savvy.  Will football manager 2019 work on the Microsoft Surface Go 10 Inch Pentium 4GB 64GB 2-in-1 Laptop. I'm looking to purchase 1 one and I'm hoping it's powerful enough to play FM19. The system info is CPU, Memory and Operating System:

Intel Pentium Dual core processor.4GB RAM.64GB eMMC storage.Microsoft Windows 10 S.

Any help would be greatly appreciated

[GoonerJoe]

Hey all,

looking for some advise on purchasing a desktop for FM19. I already have a monitor. My budget is between £600-£900, the desktop will be used to play FM19, Netflix, YouTube and if possible play Some of the latest games. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

[Gee_Simpson]

Okay so I have decided that for the first time I will go down the route of building my own PC, although I'm not sure if I will go for it now or wait another year or so as I've been testing out some database sizes on my current PC which is 6 years old but it still seems to run the game ok. It has a i7 3770(non k) CPU with 8GB RAM so it's still decent although not cutting edge anymore. It cost me around £650 at the time and that was mainly for FM. 

The thing is, the build I'm looking at would cost almost £1300 which is double the cost, and it's also mainly for FM. Of course I would use it for other things like internet browsing, iTunes, YouTube etc but nothing major and no other games as I do most of my gaming on console. So I would need a good excuse to do it 

Has anyone else on here spent anything near that amount for mainly just FM?

Edited December 12, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[mayney]

17 hours ago, Smurf said:

Again, tablets like Surface pro are much overpriced for what's under the hood. 

I wouldn't recommend a tablet like the Surface Pro to play football manager. You can play on them - but they are expensive, and you'd be much better putting your money into a high end laptop for FM.

What is your actual budget? Is it £1,200?

 

Thanks again for your help.

My budget would be about £700. Any netbook/notebook or 2 in 1 would be great. As I mentioned before it's for using whilst on flights and travelling. 

 

Thank you

[Smurf]

6 hours ago, mayney said:

Thanks again for your help.

My budget would be about £700. Any netbook/notebook or 2 in 1 would be great. As I mentioned before it's for using whilst on flights and travelling. 

 

Thank you

I posted my suggestion for you earlier - I think it's good still.

[Gee_Simpson]

23 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Okay so I have decided that for the first time I will go down the route of building my own PC, although I'm not sure if I will go for it now or wait another year or so as I've been testing out some database sizes on my current PC which is 6 years old but it still seems to run the game ok. It has a i7 3770(non k) CPU with 8GB RAM so it's still decent although not cutting edge anymore. It cost me around £650 at the time and that was mainly for FM. 

The thing is, the build I'm looking at would cost almost £1300 which is double the cost, and it's also mainly for FM. Of course I would use it for other things like internet browsing, iTunes, YouTube etc but nothing major and no other games as I do most of my gaming on console. So I would need a good excuse to do it 

Has anyone else on here spent anything near that amount for mainly just FM?

Anyone give me an excuse? 

Who else has been crazy enough to spend £1000+ for FM?

[Smurf]

14 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Anyone give me an excuse? 

Who else has been crazy enough to spend £1000+ for FM?

It's not that crazy at all and I typically spend upwards of that amount on computers.

I don't see the point in forking out £700 when you can get a lot better for £1400. 

£700 is a lot of money - so is £1400 - and I'd rather spend it on something that does what I want and is fast enough. 

Although my current laptop was a slapdash buy and I spent just under £1000 but it's good anyway.

 

Go for it - build away - if you have the money for it then do it.

[DonFan1]

Hi All, 

I bought the computer below and it arrived today, before I unbox this thing and start playing I wanted to get some feedback as to wether or not it would run FM19 good to very good. I typically play 5 to 6 nations with a large database. Highlevel thoughts about this getting the job done more or less?

Huawei Kepler MateBook D 14" - AMD R5 - 8GB+256GB, Mystic Silver

Processor OptionsAMD Ryzen 5 2500U mobile processor

GraphicsRadeon Vega8 Graphics
Memory
8GB DDR4
Storage
256GB SSD
 https://www.amazon.com/Huawei-Kepler-MateBook-14-Mystic/dp/B07G7GSM29/ref=sr_1_1?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1544577087&sr=1-1&keywords=Huawei+Kepler+MateBook+D+14#customerReviews

[Gee_Simpson]

22 hours ago, Smurf said:

It's not that crazy at all and I typically spend upwards of that amount on computers.

I don't see the point in forking out £700 when you can get a lot better for £1400. 

£700 is a lot of money - so is £1400 - and I'd rather spend it on something that does what I want and is fast enough. 

Although my current laptop was a slapdash buy and I spent just under £1000 but it's good anyway.

 

Go for it - build away - if you have the money for it then do it.

Yeah mate I suppose you're right. I tried loading all leagues on my current setup and unfortunately it was just a tad too slow. Not far off being acceptable for me but just missing the mark. I reckon a new processor (especially one I'm going to overclock this time) and far superior RAM will be enough to do it. Do you play any other games on your Laptop or is it just FM? I may end up dabbling in some other PC gaming although I've always been a console guy so I doubt it.

This is my build, let me know what you think:  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/44MR6s

Things like the dearer Air Cooler and 650w PSU is because I plan to overclock and I've heard the new 9700k runs hot so wanted to give myself some headroom. Possibly unnecessary but I have selected RGB RAM, I could save some money otherwise but I'm a fan of the whole RGB stuff. I was also considering these: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8KFXsY/corsair-ll120rgb-led-three-fans-with-lighting-node-pro-432-cfm-120mm-fans-co-9050072-ww but they are very pricey.

Edited December 14, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[Smurf]

13 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Yeah mate I suppose you're right. I tried loading all leagues on my current setup and unfortunately it was just a tad too slow. Not far off being acceptable for me but just missing the mark. I reckon a new processor (especially one I'm going to overclock this time) and far superior RAM will be enough to do it. Do you play any other games on your Laptop or is it just FM? I may end up dabbling in some other PC gaming although I've always been a console guy so I doubt it.

This is my build, let me know what you think:  https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/list/44MR6s

Things like the dearer Air Cooler and 650w PSU is because I plan to overclock and I've heard the new 9700k runs hot so wanted to give myself some headroom. Possibly unnecessary but I have selected RGB RAM, I could save some money otherwise but I'm a fan of the whole RGB stuff. I was also considering these: https://uk.pcpartpicker.com/product/8KFXsY/corsair-ll120rgb-led-three-fans-with-lighting-node-pro-432-cfm-120mm-fans-co-9050072-ww but they are very pricey.

For the cooler the NH-D15S is getting great reviews from where I've read. 

It looks like it would be good - but you should check out the list of single core best performance https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

I don't play any other games, not for the lack of wanting to, just don't have time these days after growing up and starting a family, games have taken a back seat.

[Gee_Simpson]

18 hours ago, Smurf said:

For the cooler the NH-D15S is getting great reviews from where I've read. 

It looks like it would be good - but you should check out the list of single core best performance https://www.cpubenchmark.net/singleThread.html

 

I don't play any other games, not for the lack of wanting to, just don't have time these days after growing up and starting a family, games have taken a back seat.

The 9700k is 3rd best?

Edited December 15, 2018 by Gee_Simpson

[Smurf]

Well then you're ok

[Gee_Simpson]

8 hours ago, Smurf said:

Well then you're ok

Lol I just thought because you told me to have a look you were meaning it wasn't great 

[Smurf]

15 hours ago, Gee_Simpson said:

Lol I just thought because you told me to have a look you were meaning it wasn't great 

I often forget what was being talked about. There are a few being helped on the go.

I simply forgot what specs you had selected and being on the mobile phone makes it harder to check back.

Alas it might help others who are reading the threads too. 😀

[Digsy1978]

Hi Smurf.

just wanted some advice.  Currently play fm19 on my laptop, but purchased a surface go, and if poss would love to use that for fm.

the specs are as below.  Just wondered if it will play full fm and also touch.

thanks in advance

Dimensions	9.65" x 6.9" x 0.33" (245 mm x 175 mm x 8.3 mm)	Storage3	eMMC drive: 64GB Solid-state drive (SSD): 128GB
Display	Screen: 10" PixelSense™ Display Resolution: 1800 x 1200 (217 PPI) resolution Aspect ratio: 3:2 Contrast ratio: 1500:1 Touch: 10 point multi-touch  Corning® Gorilla® Glass 3	Battery life	Wi-Fi: Up to 9 hours of video playback1 4G5: Up to 8.5 hours of battery life for local video playback1
Memory	4GB or 8GB RAM	Graphics	Intel® HD Graphics 615
Processor	Intel® Pentium® Gold Processor 4415Y	Connections	1 x USB-C 3.5 mm headphone jack 1 x Surface Connect port Surface Type Cover Port4 MicroSDXC Card Reader Compatible with Surface Dial*
Security	TPM 2.0 for enterprise security Enterprise-grade protection with Windows Hello face sign-in	Cameras, video and audio	Windows Hello face authentication camera (front-facing) 5.0MP front-facing camera with 1080p Skype HD video 8.0MP rear-facing autofocus camera with 1080p HD video Single microphone 2W stereo speakers with Dolby® Audio™ Premium
Software	Windows 10 Home in S mode2 Microsoft Office 365 Home 30-day trial	Wireless	Wi-Fi: IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac compatible Bluetooth Wireless 4.1 technology
Sensors	Ambient light sensor Accelerometer Gyroscope Magnetometer	Exterior	Casing: Magnesium Colour: Silver Physical buttons: Volume, Power
What’s in the box	Surface Go Power Supply Quick Start Guide Safety and warranty documents	Warranty	One year limited hardware warranty
Weight	Wi-Fi: Starting at 1.15 lbs (522g), not including Type Cover* 4G5: Starting at 1.17 lbs (532g), not including Type Cover*	Network (4G models)5

[JordanMilly]

7 hours ago, Digsy1978 said:

Hi Smurf.

just wanted some advice.  Currently play fm19 on my laptop, but purchased a surface go, and if poss would love to use that for fm.

the specs are as below.  Just wondered if it will play full fm and also touch.

thanks in advance

Not a chance will it play full FM, sorry, the processor is very poor and well below minimum requirements, and as the PC version of Touch has the same requirements, it won't play that either.

[Gee_Simpson]

10 hours ago, Smurf said:

I often forget what was being talked about. There are a few being helped on the go.

I simply forgot what specs you had selected and being on the mobile phone makes it harder to check back.

Alas it might help others who are reading the threads too. 😀

Lol no worries. 

Anyway thanks for your help, I'm going to go ahead with it and build a PC for the first time 

[mazza bul]

Hi Smurf,

I am looking to buy a laptop basically just for FM and tiny bits of work stuff. I want one with the best graphics capability possible for £700 for the 3D match. Ignore my ignorance here please but all the skins that are made seem to always be made for 1920x1080 resolution.  Is this screen size?  Basically I want a laptop that will work with that resolution/size.

I have looked at the information on different graphics cards etc on this forum but it goes way over my head.  Just a recommendation on a solid machine available from usual UK outlets would be amazing. 

Thanks as always

[moujik36]

Hi all. finally upgrading to new laptop after nearly 7 years. use my laptop for FM and general music/web browsing/streaming etc.

Budget circa £800 but i can be tempted to stretch if really worth it/advisable.

on fm, i'm not that fussed by 3d, so would be a bonus if possible but i wont cry if i cant do it decently. i like running 9-10 leagues and as large a database as i can. key for me would be to buy something that should serve me for at least 4/5 years, although i appreciate that's hard to predict.

i've seen this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2418012.html

what do we think? can i do better?

thanks in advance.

[JordanMilly]

10 hours ago, mazza bul said:

Hi Smurf,

I am looking to buy a laptop basically just for FM and tiny bits of work stuff. I want one with the best graphics capability possible for £700 for the 3D match. Ignore my ignorance here please but all the skins that are made seem to always be made for 1920x1080 resolution.  Is this screen size?  Basically I want a laptop that will work with that resolution/size.

I have looked at the information on different graphics cards etc on this forum but it goes way over my head.  Just a recommendation on a solid machine available from usual UK outlets would be amazing. 

Thanks as always

If you can stretch to £712.99, I'd go with this: https://www.amazon.co.uk/MSI-i7-7700HQ-Graphics-Windows-7RD-833UK/dp/B0735FQVP6/ref=sr_1_12?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1545113076&sr=1-12&refinements=p_36%3A9708209031

Solid processor, decent graphics card, should do the job nicely.

[JordanMilly]

10 hours ago, moujik36 said:

Hi all. finally upgrading to new laptop after nearly 7 years. use my laptop for FM and general music/web browsing/streaming etc.

Budget circa £800 but i can be tempted to stretch if really worth it/advisable.

on fm, i'm not that fussed by 3d, so would be a bonus if possible but i wont cry if i cant do it decently. i like running 9-10 leagues and as large a database as i can. key for me would be to buy something that should serve me for at least 4/5 years, although i appreciate that's hard to predict.

i've seen this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2418012.html

what do we think? can i do better?

thanks in advance.

That's really not a bad pick for a laptop, to be honest. The only ones I can find that have better processors than that one tend to only have 8GB RAM, and are about £100 more expensive.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07F32Y8G9/ref=psdc_429886031_t2_B07F94CFKV - better processor, same graphics, less RAM

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179BC3-814-MSI-GP72MVR-7RFX(Leopard-Pro)-814UK_2263509.html - better processor, better graphics, less RAM

Overall, yea, I'd probably go with what you picked.

 

[Smurf]

13 hours ago, moujik36 said:

Hi all. finally upgrading to new laptop after nearly 7 years. use my laptop for FM and general music/web browsing/streaming etc.

Budget circa £800 but i can be tempted to stretch if really worth it/advisable.

on fm, i'm not that fussed by 3d, so would be a bonus if possible but i wont cry if i cant do it decently. i like running 9-10 leagues and as large a database as i can. key for me would be to buy something that should serve me for at least 4/5 years, although i appreciate that's hard to predict.

i've seen this https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2418012.html

what do we think? can i do better?

thanks in advance.

 

2 hours ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

That's really not a bad pick for a laptop, to be honest. The only ones I can find that have better processors than that one tend to only have 8GB RAM, and are about £100 more expensive.

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B07F32Y8G9/ref=psdc_429886031_t2_B07F94CFKV - better processor, same graphics, less RAM

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-179BC3-814-MSI-GP72MVR-7RFX(Leopard-Pro)-814UK_2263509.html - better processor, better graphics, less RAM

Overall, yea, I'd probably go with what you picked.

 

Found this one

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GE-E4031T-ASUS-FX504GE-E4031T-Gaming-Laptop_2318164.html

 

 

[moujik36]

3 minutes ago, Smurf said:

 

Found this one

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/FX504GE-E4031T-ASUS-FX504GE-E4031T-Gaming-Laptop_2318164.html

 

 

thanks both for your advice. that one is 8gb ram, i read your advice earlier on the thread saying 8gb is fine for fm, would you caution getting this one with lower ram and better processor with the option to upgrade the ram further down the line? upgrading ram is easy, no?

[iopzzzza]

Hello guys. I want to buy a new windows tablet for playing fm 17 or fm 17 touch. Can you recomend some to me ? I already have laptop. Tell me all the options, cheap or expensive ones.

Edited December 18, 2018 by iopzzzza

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, moujik36 said:

thanks both for your advice. that one is 8gb ram, i read your advice earlier on the thread saying 8gb is fine for fm, would you caution getting this one with lower ram and better processor with the option to upgrade the ram further down the line? upgrading ram is easy, no?

You can upgrade RAM but you can't upgrade the processor. 8gb is fine for fm and you can upgrade to faster ram and to 16gb ram in the future at relatively low cost. 

Upgrading RAM doesn't break the warranty on the device either, however, if you were to try upgrade the processor it would likely void the warranty - and changing the processor in a laptop can be tricky.

 

1 hour ago, iopzzzza said:

Hello guys. I want to buy a new windows tablet for playing fm 17 or fm 17 touch. Can you recomend some to me ? I already have laptop. Tell me all the options, cheap or expensive ones.

Please read the opening post and state your actual budgets. Going by your request:

Cheapest example:

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/NX.GSWEK.005-Acer-Aspire-5-A517-51-33UN_2386648.html

Most expensive example:

https://www.amazon.com/P775VR-Ultimate-Notebook-i9-9900K-2x500GB/dp/B07FCVT6ZJ

 

[moujik36]

14 minutes ago, Smurf said:

You can upgrade RAM but you can't upgrade the processor. 8gb is fine for fm and you can upgrade to faster ram and to 16gb ram in the future at relatively low cost. 

Upgrading RAM doesn't break the warranty on the device either, however, if you were to try upgrade the processor it would likely void the warranty - and changing the processor in a laptop can be tricky.

thanks again - i've done some more searching and will probably plump for this as better processor and will be able to upgrade ram further down the line, and still within budget

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-255-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2410406.html

good choice?

[JordanMilly]

16 minutes ago, moujik36 said:

thanks again - i've done some more searching and will probably plump for this as better processor and will be able to upgrade ram further down the line, and still within budget

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-255-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2410406.html

good choice?

In terms of single-core processing ability (which is most important for FM), there isn't much difference at all between this one and the one Smurf posted, and the one Smurf posted had a slightly better graphics card too, and graphics cards are difficult to upgrade in a laptop too.

If you're mostly going for FM, but want to play some other, more graphically intensive games too, I'd probably still go with the one Smurf posted, and spend the difference in money on getting an extra 8GB RAM to add into it.

[moujik36]

26 minutes ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

In terms of single-core processing ability (which is most important for FM), there isn't much difference at all between this one and the one Smurf posted, and the one Smurf posted had a slightly better graphics card too, and graphics cards are difficult to upgrade in a laptop too.

If you're mostly going for FM, but want to play some other, more graphically intensive games too, I'd probably still go with the one Smurf posted, and spend the difference in money on getting an extra 8GB RAM to add into it.

great thank you all

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, moujik36 said:

thanks again - i've done some more searching and will probably plump for this as better processor and will be able to upgrade ram further down the line, and still within budget

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-255-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2410406.html

good choice?

Yeh looks really good

1 hour ago, JordanMillward_1 said:

In terms of single-core processing ability (which is most important for FM), there isn't much difference at all between this one and the one Smurf posted, and the one Smurf posted had a slightly better graphics card too, and graphics cards are difficult to upgrade in a laptop too.

If you're mostly going for FM, but want to play some other, more graphically intensive games too, I'd probably still go with the one Smurf posted, and spend the difference in money on getting an extra 8GB RAM to add into it.

That's true, so where the single-core performance are almost identical, I'll plump for the one with more overall power and newer generation, plus the additional better graphics card all for the same price as the other one, seems like a better deal to me. 

Adding more RAM at a later stage would be recommeneded. If you're doing that, make sure you get the exact same type of ram and exact same speed of RAM. You will find this info in the eBrochure that usually comes with computers these days, or by checking your serial number online with the vendor. 

 

[RexEverything]

hey @Smurf this is unrelated to FM but I don't know anyone else I could ask for advice! My Wife's laptops has died, just as she's started her big essay for her Masters Degree - is there a laptop you'd recommend just for Word Processing & internet browsing, under a budget of £300? Very unlikely to be used for gaming, might be used for netflix or something similar.

thanks!

[jordi cruyff]

Which one out of these 3 would you recommend? 

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/9S7-16R112-255-MSI-GF63-8RC-255UK_2410406.html

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2245212.html

https://www.box.co.uk/9S7-16J962-2073-MSI-GL62M-7RDX-2073UK_2418012.html

 

 

[Smurf]

2 hours ago, RexEverything said:

hey @Smurf this is unrelated to FM but I don't know anyone else I could ask for advice! My Wife's laptops has died, just as she's started her big essay for her Masters Degree - is there a laptop you'd recommend just for Word Processing & internet browsing, under a budget of £300? Very unlikely to be used for gaming, might be used for netflix or something similar.

thanks!

Not much for that price out there... sorry