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Hi All,

Been shopping around for a new laptop for a couple of days now and thought it'd be best to check in before taking the plunge on one.

Budget is £400 to £500. Appreciate it's not a lot but I'm not looking for something super powerful - just the best I can get within that price range.

I play matches in 2D, usually on a Medium DB with ~6 leagues loaded on playable and about 6 more loaded as View Only. 

For context, I've been playing FM17 on a Samsung R530 laptop (not purchased with FM in mind!) for the last couple of years so anything is likely to feel like an upgrade! I'm even happy with how the 2D graphics look on my current laptop - essentially I'm just looking for something that will run slightly faster than the R530 and is a general upgrade.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Appreciate I've been pretty vague so I can give more info if needed.

I had shortlisted these two. Can anyone put me off / suggest which one is better / suggest a better alternative?

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-vivobook-intel-core-i7-7500u-8gb-1tb-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-x541ua-go799t/version.asp

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/hp-15-bs049na-core-i5-7200-8gb-1tb-15.6-inch-windows-10-laptop-2cq71ea/version.asp

Thanks.

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10 hours ago, Cueboy_3143 said:

After three years playing FM Touch on iPad, I'm saving up to upgrade my Macbook Pro that I've had for 6 and a half years. Hopefully it will last the next 3-4 editions of FM after FM19. I've had two Mac's in the last 10 years, I use it for general use as well as FM, and I usually play FM with a large database with 4-5 leagues loaded.

I was thinking of spending £1,500 - £1,700

Any recommendations?

Macbook Pros are very expensive for what you get under the hood. For that price you'd get a top top top range PC with much better specs than any mac book pro at entry level. 

I'm not really sure what recommendations you want - you want to upgrade your Macbook Pro - but to what? DO you want to buy another Macbook Pro? There's only so many configurations you can have. 

Can you let use know exactly what you want? 

 

 

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1 hour ago, Smurf said:

Macbook Pros are very expensive for what you get under the hood. For that price you'd get a top top top range PC with much better specs than any mac book pro at entry level. 

I'm not really sure what recommendations you want - you want to upgrade your Macbook Pro - but to what? DO you want to buy another Macbook Pro? There's only so many configurations you can have. 

Can you let use know exactly what you want? 

 

 

I'd prefer to buy another Macbook Pro, but I'm considering going back to a PC laptop. As you say PC's are better value for money. I would be interested to hear people's experiences playing FM18 with large databases and 3d matches on one of the latest Macbook Pro's

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2 minutes ago, Cueboy_3143 said:

I'd prefer to buy another Macbook Pro, but I'm considering going back to a PC laptop. As you say PC's are better value for money. I would be interested to hear people's experiences playing FM18 with large databases and 3d matches on one of the latest Macbook Pro's

"one of the latest Macbook Pro's" is ambigious, they start priced basic at:

13inch: £1,249 up to £2,019  

15 inch: £2,349 up to £2,969

For what's acceptable for FM in terms of RAM and basic processor - those figures for 13 inch can go up to £3,000+ and 15 inch can go up to £6,000+. 

It would totally depend on what Mac Book Pro people have. 

 

AND the Macbook pro doesn't come with a dedicated graphics card - some argue it doesn't need it for FM - if you want a graphics card for your Macbook Pro you need to buy an external graphics card for approx £700. 

https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/18/apple-macbook-egpu-gpu-creative/

 

What's your budget - what size screen are you looking for? 

Totally your perogative if you want to spend up to approx between £1,300 and  £3,000 on a computer - but that money would get you a whopper PC with a much much better FM experience - in fact you wouldn't have to spend that much at all - below £1,300.

 

I have never played FM on a Mac - sorry i can' t help on that front.

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33 minutes ago, Smurf said:

"one of the latest Macbook Pro's" is ambigious, they start priced basic at:

13inch: £1,249 up to £2,019  

15 inch: £2,349 up to £2,969

For what's acceptable for FM in terms of RAM and basic processor - those figures for 13 inch can go up to £3,000+ and 15 inch can go up to £6,000+. 

It would totally depend on what Mac Book Pro people have. 

 

AND the Macbook pro doesn't come with a dedicated graphics card - some argue it doesn't need it for FM - if you want a graphics card for your Macbook Pro you need to buy an external graphics card for approx £700. 

https://www.engadget.com/2018/07/18/apple-macbook-egpu-gpu-creative/

 

What's your budget - what size screen are you looking for? 

Totally your perogative if you want to spend up to approx between £1,300 and  £3,000 on a computer - but that money would get you a whopper PC with a much much better FM experience - in fact you wouldn't have to spend that much at all - below £1,300.

 

I have never played FM on a Mac - sorry i can' t help on that front.

Roughly £1,500. I am considering going back to a PC laptop because you get a better machine to play FM for your money

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Only question mark is the type of SSD installed but it ticks every box for FM & every other game on the market.

Obvious draws back is its size but that allows for a much better tech package than a MBP.

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I'm looking to get a new laptop for work, for which I travel quit a lot so I need something really portable and lightweight. I want to be able to play FM reasonably well when I'm on flights, in airports, etc. and was just curious how well this one (with the i7) would handle the 3D aspect of the game:

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/p/huawei-matebook-x-pro-laptop/8n4k86d4j006/4X0P?cid=msft_web_search&activetab=pivot:techspecstab

I know you can get better gaming laptops for less money but that's not really an option seeing as it's a work laptop and this one fits within the budget I was given anyway.

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11 minutes ago, Barside said:

Only question mark is the type of SSD installed but it ticks every box for FM & everything else of the market.

Obvious draws back is its size but that allows for a much better tech package than an MBP.

Thanks! Definitely something to consider

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Alright guys, 

Wonder if anyone can help me as I'm not very IT savvy. My laptop has just packed in and is beyond repair, I'm wondering if anyone can give me an idea of the spec of laptop I need for running FM18 comfortably? Wasn't really planning on buying a gaming laptop and want to spend a crazy amount on it as all I really use it for is FM and the odd word doc / photo storage. 

Thanks in advance.

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Hi guys, I'm going to be getting a new laptop within the next few weeks, budget 900-1000. I do have a gaming laptop at the minute but want to get another for 19.

I'm looking at something like a i7 processor 16gb of ram. Is there such thing as too much ram? Also a 250 SSD and a g force gtx 1060. What's the likelihood that laptop will last for a few years? 

Seen this one https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-x7851-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17-30023005/version.asp as well as the one linked above https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-15.6-fhd-wv-tn-120hz-i7-8750h-8g-256gb-sata-ssd-1tb-hdd-gtx1060-fx504gm-en150t/version.asp I'd like a professional recommendation please out of those or any other for the same price and good enough specs 

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1 hour ago, bigmattb28 said:

Hi guys, I'm going to be getting a new laptop within the next few weeks, budget 900-1000. I do have a gaming laptop at the minute but want to get another for 19.

I'm looking at something like a i7 processor 16gb of ram. Is there such thing as too much ram? Also a 250 SSD and a g force gtx 1060. What's the likelihood that laptop will last for a few years? 

Seen this one https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/medion-erazer-x7851-core-i7-7700hq-16gb-1tb-256gb-ssd-geforce-gtx-1060-17-30023005/version.asp as well as the one linked above https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-15.6-fhd-wv-tn-120hz-i7-8750h-8g-256gb-sata-ssd-1tb-hdd-gtx1060-fx504gm-en150t/version.asp I'd like a professional recommendation please out of those or any other for the same price and good enough specs 

I managed to get the exact same spec of that Erazer as a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming by talking them down to £600... Runs like a dream...

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It’s a no contest really, the Asus is the right option as it has the better cpu, screen, cooling & chassis for a couple of quiz less.

The questions I’d ask relate to is the cost worth it so what are you running at the moment, how do you play FM (league & processing setup) & what other games do you play?

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On 22/07/2018 at 19:15, Smurf said:

You can if you have the knowledge. But most people who come here looking for advice on which laptop to part their money with. And they do so because they dont know what specs to look for.

 

So suggesting to go build it yourself is not very helpful.

 

Id love a drone. I am going to pay 1600 for a good one. Oh no wait i just realised i can build one for half the price.

 

YES 1500 for that laptop is pretty impressive. Of course if you have the knowhow you can do it cheaper...of course!!!

 

 

Not that hard to build a computer and if as you have said cant do that well you can pay some one around £100+ to do it so again big saving with far better system

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9 hours ago, Boy_Wonda said:

I managed to get the exact same spec of that Erazer as a Dell Inspiron 15 7000 Gaming by talking them down to £600... Runs like a dream...

Cool man cheers. Not sure which to go for yet.

 

8 hours ago, Barside said:

It’s a no contest really, the Asus is the right option as it has the better cpu, screen, cooling & chassis for a couple of quiz less. 

The questions I’d ask relate to is the cost worth it so what are you running at the moment, how do you play FM (league & processing setup) & what other games do you play?

Thanks for your reply. I like to play with around 10 nations active, large database. This is my current game on 17:

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Not really playing other games on the laptop. I do have Euro Truck Simulator installed but hardly play it. Would you go for the Asus over the Dell?

 

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28 minutes ago, Jamie Cortez said:

Those with larger budgets £1000+ should be looking at custom laptops from the likes of pc specialist where you can pick your RAM and HDD/SSD brands and you'll get much better build quality. 

 

https://www.pcspecialist.co.uk/laptops/

A lot of people asking about what laptop to get ask because they don't know the difference between a Pentium Processor and an i7 or a Xeon vs an i9 etc. Nor do they know what type of RAM is best, power supplies, cases, types of HD etc. 

I often recommend from PC Specialist - but it would be really cool if you took that budget and went to PC specialist and put it together for them - and then post the link here. 

I do it all the time - it's really helpful to the people who just don't know about computers to put everything together.

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Good evening,

Laptop has just gone bang so looking for another one suitable to run FM18. Looking at running around 6 leagues with my budget between £400 and a max of £500. Seen these 2 and just wondering if anyone could point me in the right direction:

Option 1

https://www.ebuyer.com/800868-lenovo-v110-i5-laptop-80th0013uk

 

Option 2

https://www.saveonlaptops.co.uk/A556UQ-DM1469T-ASUS-Vivobook-A556UQ-DM1469T_2255403.html

 

If these are alright or anyone can suggest any other better ones for the price that'd be great! 

 

Thanks in advance

 

P.s. just seen barsides response to quartermelon further up this page with the acer aspire and its the same price as "option 2" but "option 2" has an i7 processor rather then an i5. Just wondering if that should sway my decision

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On 15/08/2018 at 12:20, Barside said:

Would this be good for day to day things such as Word, Spreadsheets, iTunes and odd bit of video editing as well?

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13 minutes ago, TISONLYJK said:

Need a few laptop for FM 2019. A pretty cheap one if possible. 

This one looks okay, has windows 10 and enough GHz speed (AFAIK its 2.2 needed for FM19). Is the processor type the right one?

 

https://www.did.ie/lenovo-ideapad-110s-intel-celeron-n3060-11-6-2gb-32gb-laptop-silver-80wg00cnuk-80wg00cnuk-prd

 

Thanks in advance.

No it's not good enough.

What's your budget. In ireland too - so let me know what you got and I'll help out as much as I can.

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4 minutes ago, Smurf said:

No it's not good enough.

What's your budget. In ireland too - so let me know what you got and I'll help out as much as I can.

Not an awful lot tbf. Probably €450ish.  I know that’ll limit things quite a bit.

Appreciate the help!

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9 hours ago, TISONLYJK said:

Yeah tis slighly out of my price range.

Are these the right specifications?

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That's just not good enough.

FM won't be out til november - any chance you can save a bit more? 

Maybe get some cash presents for christmas?

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People who only have £400-500 get some one to build you a pc either new or if they know there stuff second hand you will easily run this game with far better experience. (if unsure of people or companies to do this post up your location some one should be willing to help you find someone)

 

Any one spending £1000+ for laptop to run this is just mad pickup a cheap laptop for around £300-400 and use the other £600 for pc.

 

Regarding the person who was going to spend thousands on a macbook pro you are crazy as pointed out the basic model spec is not even good enough plus this game really isnt that great on osx it appears much more stable on windows.

 

I dont see the point of playing this if all you can load is upto 5 nations you are missing out on so much of what the game is about.

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16 minutes ago, mortmaru said:

People who only have £400-500 get some one to build you a pc either new or if they know there stuff second hand you will easily run this game with far better experience. (if unsure of people or companies to do this post up your location some one should be willing to help you find someone)

 

Any one spending £1000+ for laptop to run this is just mad pickup a cheap laptop for around £300-400 and use the other £600 for pc.

 

Regarding the person who was going to spend thousands on a macbook pro you are crazy as pointed out the basic model spec is not even good enough plus this game really isnt that great on osx it appears much more stable on windows.

 

I dont see the point of playing this if all you can load is upto 5 nations you are missing out on so much of what the game is about.

I'm not buying a MBP or laptop just to play Football Manager. I want something that is good for video editing, general use and FM. I've had two Macbook's in the last 10 years and they've been great for everything apart from Football Manager.

 

Hence why I'm thinking of going back to a PC laptop in the hope I can find something that's good for everything

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1 hour ago, mortmaru said:

People who only have £400-500 get some one to build you a pc either new or if they know there stuff second hand you will easily run this game with far better experience. (if unsure of people or companies to do this post up your location some one should be willing to help you find someone)

 

Any one spending £1000+ for laptop to run this is just mad pickup a cheap laptop for around £300-400 and use the other £600 for pc.

 

Regarding the person who was going to spend thousands on a macbook pro you are crazy as pointed out the basic model spec is not even good enough plus this game really isnt that great on osx it appears much more stable on windows.

 

I dont see the point of playing this if all you can load is upto 5 nations you are missing out on so much of what the game is about.

Fair point.

But I am in Ireland and I don't know anyone who can build a laptop from scratch. And the thought is daunting for others.

There are great off the shelf offers. And for around £600 you can pick up a very decent i5 hq.

For anyone that has a budget of 1000 or over the Pc Specialists, overclockers, scan etc are all good to go to.

Ok you spend a bit more getting someone else to put it together... but you get a great laptop.

And if someone wants to spend 1.5 k or more then so be it. But more often than not you can get all you need and more for less than 1k.

But if someone wants to max their budget its thwir money at end of the day

 

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6 minutes ago, Smurf said:

But if someone wants to max their budget its thwir money at end of the day

Exactly, I could have bought an i5 or i7 rig & it would have be fine but I am able to afford an i9 based rig so that’s what I bought.

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I'm looking for a new laptop. It'll be used for FM18 and 19, as well as running some fairly complex spreadsheets/VBA macros (for work - I do large scale data analysis in Excel and SQL server), and the usual stuff like web browsing, emails, general office tasks.

I have an old ish Lenovo ideapad 110 at the moment, which has 8Gb RAM and a Intel N3710 processor, so obviously not the fastest. It's starting to die, and the screen is going a bit weird, and I think it's going to need replacing soon.

Budget is around £750. I'll be buying it through my business, so can get 20% VAT back.

I'm not comfortable building my own. I'd like a laptop instead of a PC. Windows instead of Apple. Ideally from a reputable source so I can get hardware support if it's delivered broken, or something breaks early on.

Any recommendations?

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32 minutes ago, Smurf said:

Fair point.

But I am in Ireland and I don't know anyone who can build a laptop from scratch. And the thought is daunting for others.

There are great off the shelf offers. And for around £600 you can pick up a very decent i5 hq.

For anyone that has a budget of 1000 or over the Pc Specialists, overclockers, scan etc are all good to go to.

Ok you spend a bit more getting someone else to put it together... but you get a great laptop.

And if someone wants to spend 1.5 k or more then so be it. But more often than not you can get all you need and more for less than 1k.

But if someone wants to max their budget its thwir money at end of the day

 

 

Most laptops around £600 will throttle the cpu/gpu this is a problem it may look good on paper but in real world it wont perform as the hardware was built to.

 

check reviews or people that have done real world testing in video on say youtube before you buy at this price point

 

Laptop unless you spend a lot of money £1000+ are not for gaming even if they are trying to market as one and this game requires lot of ram with powerful cpu.

 

If you have a limited budget a pc is only way really and trust me you are getting far better experience anyway

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1 hour ago, mortmaru said:

 

Most laptops around £600 will throttle the cpu/gpu this is a problem it may look good on paper but in real world it wont perform as the hardware was built to.

 

check reviews or people that have done real world testing in video on say youtube before you buy at this price point

 

Laptop unless you spend a lot of money £1000+ are not for gaming even if they are trying to market as one and this game requires lot of ram with powerful cpu.

 

If you have a limited budget a pc is only way really and trust me you are getting far better experience anyway

You are not understanding the problem at all.

Theres very few times anyone recommends anything below 600. But 600 is the lowest i have found that would be better than anything else on offer for that price.

The problem is not everyone has the money and/or the need to buy something upwards of 600.

Theres nothing wrong with anyone that wants to spend little on a laptop. But a lot of us wont recommend anything that is bad and we work within their budget to find something that is the best based on what they have available to spend.

Nobody is ever saying these laptops we recommend are going to play fm amazingly, but its better than what they would have boiught and a better use of their budget.

 

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1 hour ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

I'm looking for a new laptop. It'll be used for FM18 and 19, as well as running some fairly complex spreadsheets/VBA macros (for work - I do large scale data analysis in Excel and SQL server), and the usual stuff like web browsing, emails, general office tasks.

I have an old ish Lenovo ideapad 110 at the moment, which has 8Gb RAM and a Intel N3710 processor, so obviously not the fastest. It's starting to die, and the screen is going a bit weird, and I think it's going to need replacing soon.

Budget is around £750. I'll be buying it through my business, so can get 20% VAT back.

I'm not comfortable building my own. I'd like a laptop instead of a PC. Windows instead of Apple. Ideally from a reputable source so I can get hardware support if it's delivered broken, or something breaks early on.

Any recommendations?

PC Specialist should be your first & only port of call.

Main benefit is they will not load up a tonne of BS software that impede performance & usability.

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@Barside I'll definitely check out PC Specialist, thanks.

Is there anything in particular you'd recommend? I don't need a particularly high end laptop, I won't really be playing many games on it. But I'd like to run FM with, say, 4 or 5 countries to full detail. 

If you can give me the rough specs to look out for, that would be very helpful

Thanks

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2 hours ago, Smurf said:

You are not understanding the problem at all.

Theres very few times anyone recommends anything below 600. But 600 is the lowest i have found that would be better than anything else on offer for that price.

The problem is not everyone has the money and/or the need to buy something upwards of 600.

Theres nothing wrong with anyone that wants to spend little on a laptop. But a lot of us wont recommend anything that is bad and we work within their budget to find something that is the best based on what they have available to spend.

Nobody is ever saying these laptops we recommend are going to play fm amazingly, but its better than what they would have boiught and a better use of their budget.

 

 

I understand it fully having been building pc and laptops for over 25 years. (dont built to many laptops anymore they cost more then retail and for highend market)

 

If a persons budget is low then pc is way the way to go so many options you can get second hand parts which would run this game so easily I know some people may moan they want laptop so on well you need more money then it's that simple.

 

Why any one would be stupid enough to even spend £600 plus to play games on a laptop is puzzling you are paying premium for it in a portable package and then getting cut down versions.

 

It's better to be straight up and just say no these cheap laptops are not going to run it as its meant to be and even if they spent say £600 still not good enough you stend that on pc you easily can run the game plus laptops only last few years.

 

People should think of time to cost ratio a £600 pc will easily work in 5 years time and even run this game a laptop at that price no chance may get 2 year.

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4 hours ago, DamianJMcGrath said:

I'm looking for a new laptop. It'll be used for FM18 and 19, as well as running some fairly complex spreadsheets/VBA macros (for work - I do large scale data analysis in Excel and SQL server), and the usual stuff like web browsing, emails, general office tasks.

I have an old ish Lenovo ideapad 110 at the moment, which has 8Gb RAM and a Intel N3710 processor, so obviously not the fastest. It's starting to die, and the screen is going a bit weird, and I think it's going to need replacing soon.

Budget is around £750. I'll be buying it through my business, so can get 20% VAT back.

I'm not comfortable building my own. I'd like a laptop instead of a PC. Windows instead of Apple. Ideally from a reputable source so I can get hardware support if it's delivered broken, or something breaks early on.

Any recommendations?

 

If your work place allows you to order from any place and you have £750 + 20% vat making it £900  that should be fine.

EVGA SC15 was on offer from few places around £900 mark not sure if still the case this is a beast

Asus GL503VM-GZ128T

Asus GL502VM-FY497T

Asus FX503VM-DM042T

 

 

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5 hours ago, Cueboy_3143 said:

I'm not buying a MBP or laptop just to play Football Manager. I want something that is good for video editing, general use and FM. I've had two Macbook's in the last 10 years and they've been great for everything apart from Football Manager.

 

Hence why I'm thinking of going back to a PC laptop in the hope I can find something that's good for everything

Basically, get an i7. (I use the i7-7700HQ) That'll be brilliant for video editing and will run FM like a charm. Chuck on an SSD and a regular HDD, GTX1060 6GB (whic for the price is a really good graphics card that'll see you right for quuuuuiiiiittteee a while.), try and hit 16gb RAM and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank where you can withdraw all that money you have saved and get yourself a load of top of the range software for video editing and the like... 

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4 minutes ago, mortmaru said:

 

If your work place allows you to order from any place and you have £750 + 20% vat making it £900  that should be fine.

EVGA SC15 was on offer from few places around £900 mark not sure if still the case this is a beast

Asus GL503VM-GZ128T

Asus GL502VM-FY497T

Asus FX503VM-DM042T

 

 

The SC15 is £1150 now. Bit too expensive

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1 hour ago, Boy_Wonda said:

Basically, get an i7. (I use the i7-7700HQ) That'll be brilliant for video editing and will run FM like a charm. Chuck on an SSD and a regular HDD, GTX1060 6GB (whic for the price is a really good graphics card that'll see you right for quuuuuiiiiittteee a while.), try and hit 16gb RAM and you'll be laughing all the way to the bank where you can withdraw all that money you have saved and get yourself a load of top of the range software for video editing and the like... 

Cheers Stevie! I heard Lee Nelson's voice when I was reading "qualiteee" haha. I'm hearing good things about PC Specialist the more I look into stuff. What kind of stuff do I need to LOOK OUT FOR?

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I'm looking at getting a new laptop for FM this year my current laptop is about 5 years old. 

Just wondered what you guys thought of this laptop? 

https://www.very.co.uk/dell-g3-series-intelreg-coretrade-i5-8300h-8gbnbspddr4-ram-256gbnbspssd-156-inch-full-hd-gaming-laptop-with-4gbnbspgeforce-gtx-1050-graphics-with-gaming-software-pack/1600290638.prd?Ntt=gaming%20laptop

 

Thanks everyone. 

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2 hours ago, Leicester Fan said:

I'm looking at getting a new laptop for FM this year my current laptop is about 5 years old. 

Just wondered what you guys thought of this laptop? 

https://www.very.co.uk/dell-g3-series-intelreg-coretrade-i5-8300h-8gbnbspddr4-ram-256gbnbspssd-156-inch-full-hd-gaming-laptop-with-4gbnbspgeforce-gtx-1050-graphics-with-gaming-software-pack/1600290638.prd?Ntt=gaming laptop

 

Thanks everyone. 

 

Downside is it only has single ssd you would expect a 1tb hdd as well try

The way the cooling is designed it can't really be used under load on your lap

 

Asus FX504GE-DM176T & FX503VM-DM042T are both better options.

 

It is a trade off between those two models one has better gpu the other has better cpu both dont have the best screens but you cant get everything at this price point.

 

 

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Here’s a link to one of the Asus options.

https://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/asus-fx504ge-dm176t-core-i7-8750h-8gb-128gb-ssd-1tb-nvidia-gtx-1050ti-1-fx504ge-dm176t/version.asp 

Better CPU, better GPU, better screen, more total storage (an SSD is pointless for FM so 128GB is enough when supplemented with a 1TB HDD) & a better chassis that has been designed & built with cooling in mind.

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12 hours ago, mortmaru said:

 

I understand it fully having been building pc and laptops for over 25 years. (dont built to many laptops anymore they cost more then retail and for highend market)

 

If a persons budget is low then pc is way the way to go so many options you can get second hand parts which would run this game so easily I know some people may moan they want laptop so on well you need more money then it's that simple.

 

Why any one would be stupid enough to even spend £600 plus to play games on a laptop is puzzling you are paying premium for it in a portable package and then getting cut down versions.

 

It's better to be straight up and just say no these cheap laptops are not going to run it as its meant to be and even if they spent say £600 still not good enough you stend that on pc you easily can run the game plus laptops only last few years.

 

People should think of time to cost ratio a £600 pc will easily work in 5 years time and even run this game a laptop at that price no chance may get 2 year.

I get it. Desktop cheaper to buy. And can upgrade etc. 

Bear mind need screen keyboard mouse which knocks off min 100£ from budget.

Anyway good point. If theres nothing in the below 600 range i can certainly look at desktop options.

For the record i would never buy a desktop. Love the laptop. Planes, train, business trips or whatever i need to do i can always bring the laptop and downtime with fm.

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