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World Cup Final: Germany vs Argentina - 13th July 20:00 BST


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Who will win the World Cup?  

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  1. 1. Who will win the World Cup?



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I guess it makes sense to give it to a guy who's played in the final. Because a) he's got to the final and b) he's already there. Unless they've had a massively stand out tournament then it would feel odd having a player of the World Cup trophy awarded to a player who isn't even present.

But if you take that argument to its logical conclusion, then you can only give it to someone on the winning team, not a losing finalist.

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I enjoyed that game, was expecting a lot more negative play even though Argies didn't have a shot on goal. Higuain though ... wtf!!! Sitter

Lovely control and volley from Goetze. Argies just switched off a bit and let him drift. Glad it didn't go to pens and think the Germans deserved to win the tournament. Incredible footballing record really, amazing consistency down the years

The best thing is we don't have to hear this 'no European team has won in Americas' thing ever again as the stat is really 'only Brazil have ever won it in Europe' not some Europe-wide struggle to win in the Americas whilst South Americans are picking up trophies all over Europe, when they're not

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"didn't have a shot on goal" is a pretty **** stat though, Argentina had the best chances to score.

it was a repeat of the Germany V Argentina 1990 Final though :cool:

Germany won 1-0, Argentina had no shots on target

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Maradona has one of those few clarity moments re: Messi winning the best player award.

I would give heaven and earth to Leo, but when marketing people want him to win something he didn't [deserve to] win, it is unfair.
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always love to hear the different commentaries from around the world but it sounds like one of them is in pain rather than celebrating the goal to win the World Cup :lol:

If it were ever possible that that was England scoring a winning goal and the commentators reacted in that way you'd never hear the end of it "OMG it's so unfair, what about the opposition" etc etc

I don't know if anyone has been listening to the Guardian's World Cup daily podcasts but they had some English guy that worked for a Brazilian station on commentary and they were asking him to do the 'ol 'Goooooooollll' type celebration and he said thankfully his station doesn't have to do that

The ones that do it though it's sort of a requirement that they react in that way. He also made a good point that for all the ones we say, the amazing goals and the 'Gooooooooooooaaalllll' that fits so well there are plenty of other, just regular goals, where it's a bit tiresome. He also said you kind of miss out on all the glorious commentary down the years associated with incredible goals because obviously they're all just replaced with a standard 'gooooooooaaaallll' of various lengths

Thought that was a pretty good point tbh

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always love to hear the different commentaries from around the world but it sounds like one of them is in pain rather than celebrating the goal to win the World Cup :lol:

Can't play in your territory :( BBC suck with stuff like that.

Well said by Maradona. It was a ridiculous award, and you have to wonder how the heck he won it. Could give it to at least a handful of others and we couldn't really have had any complaints, but with Messi it just looks ridiculous as he quite simply was nowhere near the best player of the tournament.

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People going way overboard with how "ridiculous" it was :D

4 MOTM awards, 4 goals, 1 assist. Think I also read he created more chances than any other player, made the most interceptions as an attacker, and oh yeah he got to the final with Argentina. There are only a handfull of players who you could argue deserve it over him.

Compare with previous golden ball winners and it's not so outlandish at all. People just have massive expectations from Messi, so that when he's not far and away the best player on the pitch he's poor.

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Müller has the answer to that :D

[video=youtube;AgOVgwSH7l8]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AgOVgwSH7l8

That reporter asks if he's sad not to have won the golden boot.

Answer:

Des intressiert mi ois ned der Scheissdreck!

Weltmeister san mer! Den Pott ham mer!

Den scheiss goldener Schuh kannst Di hinter den Ohrn schmiern!

I don't care about that 5h1t!

We're World Champions! We got the trophy!

You can smear that sh1tty golden shoe behind your ears! (Bavarian way of saying you can stick it up your ...)

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will lead to more mock outrage here like we had over the Dutch reporter thing

not really sure why they ask him about the Golden Boot considering he already has one from 2010 though?

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will lead to more mock outrage here like we had over the Dutch reporter thing

not really sure why they ask him about the Golden Boot considering he already has one from 2010 though?

Yeah, she's really trying to pish on his parade. Gets the answer she deserves but in a humourous way.

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will lead to more mock outrage here like we had over the Dutch reporter thing

not really sure why they ask him about the Golden Boot considering he already has one from 2010 though?

golden ball, not boot. he has a golden boot I think (topscorer award) but not a golden ball

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