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The 2012-2013 Manchester United Thread: Thank you, Sir Alex


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Porto, the Portuguese Tottenham. Only slightly more successful.

I would say they are more like us tbh just they have to sell more. Buy lesser known players with good potential and be extremely successful whilst you are doing it.

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I would say they are more like us tbh just they have to sell more. Buy lesser known players with good potential and be extremely successful whilst you are doing it.

Good point. People seem to miss that for all the large transfers United have made down the many years, the club is definitely more focused on potential and development.

So...Port, the Portuguese United with a Daniel Levy in charge. :D

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No he shouldn't... remember Fulham? He has a tendency to get forgetful and lax when the pressure is off which isn't ideal for a regular penalty taker.

Yeah, Fulham came to mind when I saw his tonight. Every other penner he's had for us has been top notch though; that said Rooney's not been bad, that wobble a while back aside.

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No he shouldn't... remember Fulham? He has a tendency to get forgetful and lax when the pressure is off which isn't ideal for a regular penalty taker.

You are right...I always forget events from matches that I didn't watch. I hope Kagawa's good at pens....don't think I've ever seen him take one though.

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Alba moves to Barca for £11.5m, i do not think i have been so envious of a transfer since when we missed out on Michael Essien. I know we were never in the running but what a steal bearing in mind that Leppards mob will probably ask for more than that for Leighton Baines. (English player premium can gtf)

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Alba moves to Barca for £11.5m, i do not think i have been so envious of a transfer since when we missed out on Michael Essien. I know we were never in the running but what a steal bearing in mind that Leppards mob will probably ask for more than that for Leighton Baines. (English player premium can gtf)

I'm sure he'll fit right into the Barca way as well. Noticed him falling all over the place last night....to be the man who dives the most frequently in a Spain vs. Portugal match is some achievement..

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Alba moves to Barca for £11.5m, i do not think i have been so envious of a transfer since when we missed out on Michael Essien. I know we were never in the running but what a steal bearing in mind that Leppards mob will probably ask for more than that for Leighton Baines. (English player premium can gtf)

Yeah, we'd want at least £20m, if not £25m. Now that the Euros are over, I'm really really scared he'll move somewhere else :(

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Yeah, we'd want at least £20m, if not £25m. Now that the Euros are over, I'm really really scared he'll move somewhere else :(

Can everton even count that high?

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Yeah, we'd want at least £20m, if not £25m. Now that the Euros are over, I'm really really scared he'll move somewhere else :(

It will happen I am sure but for around the £15m that has been touted. No way will you get £25m for him.

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It will happen I am sure but for around the £15m that has been touted. No way will you get £25m for him.

Firstly, unless Baines really wants to leave Everton and tells Moyes so, he won't be sold, as Moyes doesn't want to see his best players leaving, especially after we finally have something that resembles a proper team. Secondly, as our only left-back and a very good one at that, he's worth a fair amount to us. Thirdly, you'll be paying extra because Baines is English. I can't see anything less than £20m, tbh.

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You are having a laugh if you think Manchester United will spend £20m on a good but not great left back that won't have sell on value. Are Everton a club with very poor finances going to play hardball over £5m with a player that will want to leave? Stupid if they do.

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Im sorry but he isn't great. You seem to have an inflated opinion over how good he is and what he is worth..

And you seem to have a very low opinion of him. He is a great left-back but doesn't get the recognition because he's not playing for a CL club, and I'm perfectly fine with that. And I don't care what he's worth because that matters very little. What matters more is what he's worth to us, and that is easily a lot more than you think. Do you think Berbs was worth 30m? I grant that Bill Kenwright is no Daniel Levy but the point still stands.

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Was Berba worth 30m? Hell no but we bought him on deadline day and left Spurs with no time to get in a replacement. Oh no wait, they got Campbell (on loan) from us :D Probably demanded a couple extra million for taking him tbf...

Oh and we were in a bidding war with City ffs!

Couldn't have chosen a worse transfer to compare this to

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And if we are down to deadline day with City/Chelsea also bidding for Baines you might get 25m, just not from us. If we are alone in bidding and it's done in July you won't get more than 15-16m at the most and you'll accept it and everyone will be happy

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We'll be disappointed as hell to just get 15m for Baines. :D If Stewart Downing can go for 20m... besides, if you remove the extra you'd be paying just for him being English, it'd come down to something like 7m, which is just laughable.

As I said, Baines won't be sold unless he tells Moyes he wants to leave. I haven't seen an indication that that's the case yet.

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I don't have a low opinion of Leighton Baines whatsoever. He is one of the top 3 Premier League left backs without any doubts but that doesn't make him "great". In no way he is worth becoming our first signing over £20m since Dimitar Berbatov who at that time was worth the money. Obviously hindsight is a wonderful thing in regards to the Berba deal.

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Baines isn't a great left back, he's a very good one. He's also going to be almost 28 by the time he moves, quite a few years younger than Dani Alves was (when a far superior player) moved for £30m and there is no chance Baines will go for anything like that amount.

We'll want him for £12m, Everton will want £20m, we'll offer £15m, they'll ask for £17m and it wont happen and we'll look somewhere else.

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Stewart Downing: And English player (which is apparantly worth 8m) who plays in an attacking position (which is always worth more than a defensive one, rightly or wrongly). He went to Liverpool under the same stewardship that thought ANDY CARROLL WAS WORTH 35 MILLION.

So we'll be having Baines for 3p and a packet of crisps if you want to stick to another poor comparison

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He is English. Automatically add around 8m to his regular value.

I already have, you aren't selling to City, Barca or Real Madrid. An almost 28 year old leftback isn't moving for £20m, you'll hold on another year then sell him for £10m to a lesser club.

Baines' value of £20 million has nothing to do with him being English and everything to do with him being the best left-back in the world.

Yeah, it's a rubbish valuation because he isn't the best leftback in the world :D

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If we sign him for £25m I'll be gutted frankly :D I'll be happy if we paid £12m (what he's actually worth) passive if we pay £15m and livid if we waste 17m on a leftback who isn't going to improve at all.

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If we sign him for £25m I'll be gutted frankly :D I'll be happy if we paid £12m (what he's actually worth) passive if we pay £15m and livid if we waste 17m on a leftback who isn't going to improve at all.

Aren't enough grinning smilies in the world for that.

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Yet if he doesn't improve, he'll still be the best left-back in the league by miles.

Well he isn't, but I'll ignore that... even then he will have a year or two before he starts to decline, not worth £25m in any way, shape or form.

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United fans will say 'Evra is better :cool:' and we'd all laugh?

Ugh, I need to cut down posting in here. :(

Doubt you'll find any in here who'd claim Evra is the best anymore, playing for 5 years straight without getting any proper rest has completely ruined him

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